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TimR		#1 Posted : 28 August 2009 02:00:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Will it get its Sinus motor back?
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rugauger		#2 Posted : 28 August 2009 03:11:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,205 Location: Swindon, Wiltshire		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR <br />Will it get its Sinus motor back? Not according to the Marklin database - high efficiency propulsion (no mention of Sinus or SDS). Maybe the missing "feature" will be the peeling paint that plagues the models from the 60s/70s
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mike c		#3 Posted : 28 August 2009 03:36:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		I am guessing that they finally did away with the top mounted chassis screws and that the new model is fastened from the bottom up like most other Maerklin electric models. Regards Mike C
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cjh26		#4 Posted : 28 August 2009 04:07:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 149 Location: ,		Good Guess that would be nice. I had one of these with the plastic bodies back in the 80's. I really like this loc. I bought the Insider version that came out a few years ago. Thought is was real well done. Never understood why they put the screws on top r Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mike c <br />I am guessing that they finally did away with the top mounted chassis screws and that the new model is fastened from the bottom up like most other Maerklin electric models. Regards Mike C
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TimR		#5 Posted : 28 August 2009 05:28:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mike c <br />I am guessing that they finally did away with the top mounted chassis screws and that the new model is fastened from the bottom up like most other Maerklin electric models. Regards Mike C That might be it, Mike. Though they don't really bother me too much visually. Just a bit a pain in the a** when you actually tried to unscrew them.
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RayF		#6 Posted : 28 August 2009 10:29:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Mike, I think you've hit the nail on the head. I don't see the screws in the photo, unless it's cunningly hidden behind the catenary wire! My old 3054 has an engine room light, which looks very nice shining through the vents on the roof. I'm not sure this model has that feature.
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AshleyH		#7 Posted : 28 August 2009 11:14:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 693 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset		Having enlarged the photo, sadly I think I can see a screw head on the roof in the usual position, I hope my eyes deceive me. If it did not have the roof screws then I would buy it for sure. Just looking for an excuse. I already have 39573, 39579, and the MFX 37571. I like them all, perhaps I should have another E03 in any case! I also have a couple of Roco 103s, one in Orient Red and the other in the Touristik livery.....nice models but not the same as Ms Heavy Metal!
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TomB		#8 Posted : 28 August 2009 12:49:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		<u>Hello.</u> I am looking forward to this modell. "The engineer's cabs have interior details. The locomotive has 18 separately applied metal grab irons. It also has detailed roof equipment." I am excited to hear the operating sounds. Interior lights and lights in the 2 cabs. I think it will be a great modell, coming in september, which is soon.
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nevw		#9 Posted : 28 August 2009 14:04:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Just a simple Question why is this Model A "World Sensation" Just looks like a nice Marklin Model train. May be desirable but "world Sensation" does it run on a MAg Lev Motor and rails???????????? N
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TomB		#10 Posted : 28 August 2009 14:20:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		I guess Lutz is keeping a secret ......
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river6109		#11 Posted : 28 August 2009 14:57:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Its most probably the price tag. the prices we are used too We also had the short and longer version. And we had the single side ventilation windows.(as shown on Lutz's photo) It's right in front of your noses. the front skirting (below the buffers) was also altered in later years. the person, who designed the loco with its screws on top of it, most probably does'nt work for the company anymore, so the current staff don't even know its still there. I think replacing the screws would be too much of a radicial decision. there are other more important issues to deal with. e.g. another version of the Br E 03 or BR E 103. in a different colour. "World Sensation" : the means you never can have enough BR E 03,s 0r Br E 103,s My battered Br E 103 has a sound module and 5 pole motor., led's, machine room light (aux) with an extra function: it has manually operated pantos. regards., John
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TomB		#12 Posted : 28 August 2009 15:58:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		John, Br 03 is a steam locomotiv. Keep the E, E03. If somebody wonders which wagons will be right to combine with E03, this is a good link: http://www.railforum.de/modellbahn/zuege/i_e03_0.htm
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Gregor		#13 Posted : 28 August 2009 16:08:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 997 Location: Netherlands		I would put my bet on the roof screw. Question on the engine room light. Is that prototypically ? And is it on while running ? (It is on my layoyt...) Best regards, Gregor
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 28 August 2009 16:13:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />Just a simple Question why is this Model A "World Sensation" I think this is to do with when the E03 was introduced to the world at the International Transport Fair in Munich in June 1965. I think the E03 was termed a 'World Sensation', or words to that effect.
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steventrain		#15 Posted : 28 August 2009 16:27:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		I have the 39573, Is it same as 37575?
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river6109		#16 Posted : 28 August 2009 16:34:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB <br />John, Br 03 is a steam locomotiv. Keep the E, E03. If somebody wonders which wagons will be right to combine with E03, this is a good link: http://www.railforum.de/modellbahn/zuege/i_e03_0.htm Corrected the error. thanks, Tom
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river6109		#17 Posted : 28 August 2009 16:35:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Gregor <br />I would put my bet on the roof screw. Question on the engine room light. Is that prototypically ? And is it on while running ? (It is on my layoyt...) Best regards, Gregor originally it was connected via the track.
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pa-pauls		#18 Posted : 28 August 2009 18:50:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />Delivery of this model is coming near. Thank's for information and nice photo's Lutz Will it be available for the 150 years Märklin Tage in Göppingen 19 - 20 september
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Peterail		#19 Posted : 28 August 2009 19:31:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: ,		Looks nice model and if there are no screws visible then that is a plus point. Will certainly have a look at it when available.
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steventrain		#20 Posted : 28 August 2009 20:13:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />I have the 39573, Is it same as 37575? No. Even the road numbers differ (E03 001 vs. E03 004). Thanks, Lutz.
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steventrain		#21 Posted : 28 August 2009 20:51:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		If you looking passenger cars Cat.no 00776 12 packs cars for 37575. Some dealer can split up the 00776 12 packs.
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Natvig		#22 Posted : 29 August 2009 01:41:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/11/2008(UTC) Posts: 45 Location: ,		Yes, Lutz:- we should keep our fingers crossed,- both with regard to a possible new manager,- and a wonderful new model. I have naturally ordered no 37575,- and certainly looking forward to get hold of what surely will be a most pleasing model. I am aware of the missing screw;- not a big issue,- but I will not miss "the missing screw". Anyway,- the BR E03 must rank as one of the most beautiful locomotives ever,- a new model is therefore a must have,- screw or no screw! Geir Natvig
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Bigdaddynz		#23 Posted : 29 August 2009 01:51:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz I think this is to do with when the E03 was introduced to the world at the International Transport Fair in Munich in June 1965. I think the E03 was termed a 'World Sensation', or words to that effect. During that event they surely didn't pull those coaches. I hope not! The caption that accompanied this picture is: "Historic loco E03-001 stands in platform 9 at München Hbf with a special from Düsseldorf to the Octoberfest on Saturday, September 22nd, 2001. The special train was comprised of a number of historic coaches. Some of the passengers leaving the train were already well-primed for the celebrations."
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PeterG		#24 Posted : 29 August 2009 06:46:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/07/2008(UTC) Posts: 156 Location: Sydney,		Lutz, thanks for the great photos! I've always wanted a 103/ E03 so I cant wait for this one to arrive with the 6 Blauer Enzian carriages!
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Ranjit		#25 Posted : 29 August 2009 20:20:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2003(UTC) Posts: 3,023 Location: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, INDIA		Hi All, I will be ordering this lok very soon -- screw or no screw! It is certainly a classy locomotive. Cheers, Ranjit
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WelshMatt		#26 Posted : 29 August 2009 20:28:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,		I'm not sure how anyone could argue with deleting a visible screw from what is sold as a high-quality model. Even my old 3042 has a concealed body fixing bolt, as it comes up through the chassis into a captive nut inside the body.
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Goofy		#27 Posted : 29 August 2009 20:31:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Tempo 200 km/h was an world sensation,because it did become useful normaly speed for german people. If i think right,Germany was even before France with high speed out in the traffic on the rail.
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john black		#28 Posted : 29 August 2009 23:54:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Tempo 200 km/h was an world sensation ... Germany was even before France with high speed out in the traffic on the rail. Almost, Goofy - almost ... (only 10 years late)
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Goofy		#29 Posted : 30 August 2009 01:43:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Tempo 200 km/h was an world sensation ... Germany was even before France with high speed out in the traffic on the rail. Almost, Goofy - almost ... (only 10 years late) French locomotiv did tested locomotiv to break the world record of speed. But in the traffic,France did not traffic high speed on the rail until german did first. And i mean regular traffic like germans E03 001...
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steventrain		#30 Posted : 30 August 2009 13:52:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Prototype of E03/103 on http://www.103er.de/103archiv/arch_navi.htm
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Bigdaddynz		#31 Posted : 30 August 2009 14:17:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Great pictures, thanks Stephen.
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steventrain		#32 Posted : 30 August 2009 14:34:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Prototype of E03 001 on http://www.103er.de/galerie/e03001_1.htm
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Goofy		#33 Posted : 30 August 2009 16:36:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Nice pictures,Steven!
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steventrain		#34 Posted : 30 August 2009 18:52:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Nice pictures,Steven! You're welcome!
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Ranjit		#35 Posted : 30 August 2009 19:25:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2003(UTC) Posts: 3,023 Location: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, INDIA		Superb pictures of the prototype, Steven. Thank you for sharing. Cheers, Ranjit
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Bigdaddynz		#36 Posted : 31 August 2009 15:11:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		I'm pretty sure I've got those EJ's somewhere, I'll have to take a look. Lutz, which issue is the 4th one? I can barely make it out, but it looks like it could be an Extra issue from 2/2006. Am I right?
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steventrain		#37 Posted : 31 August 2009 23:56:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Nice pictures, Lutz.
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TomB		#38 Posted : 02 September 2009 14:07:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		The "world sensation" 37575 E03 is now coming from Märklin. Help yourself ............. run! I presume that she will be a very popular model. http://www.maerklin.de/de/servi...;catalogue=0&submit=
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steventrain		#39 Posted : 02 September 2009 16:44:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB <br /> 37575 E10 E10? It should be E03.
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spitzenklasse		#40 Posted : 02 September 2009 18:16:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,573 Location: ,		I have always admired these. From the time I watched the video of them. They are powerfull looking, the way they swoosh past swiftly. The curverature of the nose seems to change angles in the wind. I also like the air whistle sounds,first one, then the second. My first was a dc roco. It is a strong puller with a huge motor. Then I got My great M #39573. It doesn't have the piezo panto's, but it has the engine room light. So naturally, I had to have the rheingold helvetia, and the later issue dining car which does have the peizo panto with the slightly lighter cream body color.
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TomB		#41 Posted : 02 September 2009 21:46:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		Outside and inside the E03, this is a nice Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhK91UkNiWo They should of course speak english.
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steventrain		#42 Posted : 02 September 2009 23:21:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		Great video, Tom. Any links that sell Class E103 DVD/Books?
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steventrain		#43 Posted : 03 September 2009 23:15:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,707 Location: United Kingdom		37575 on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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mmervine		#44 Posted : 10 September 2009 03:31:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,894 Location: Keene, NH		Great photos of this model here: http://www.dermodellbahn...37575/37575-maerklin.htm
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Armando		#45 Posted : 10 September 2009 05:00:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		If Märklin finally managed to remove the unsightly screws on the roof and the cogwheel on the boggie on this model, it will indeed be a "world sensation", and the beginning of "adult age" for Märklin. I'll wait until more information is available once the model is out, before ordering it.
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river6109		#46 Posted : 10 September 2009 05:14:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Mit einer neuen Variante der im Vorbild kurzen Version der BR 103 kommt eine zeitgerechte Version mit Sound und ohne "sichtbare Schrauben im Dach". No screws Loco weight: 629g Full Loksound 3.5V decoder mfx the photos are for private viewing only
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Armando		#47 Posted : 10 September 2009 05:25:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		Another thing that worries me about this "sensation" is the level of noise from the motor and gears. I noticed that it is not a compact sinus 39xxx, but again a regresion to the 5-pole motor, it seems. We might find ourselves in the same situation as, for example, with the P8/BR38 locomotives.
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TimR		#48 Posted : 10 September 2009 06:07:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Armando <br />Another thing that worries me about this "sensation" is the level of noise from the motor and gears. I noticed that it is not a compact sinus 39xxx, but again a regresion to the 5-pole motor, it seems. We might find ourselves in the same situation as, for example, with the P8/BR38 locomotives. Dermodellbancheker stated in their review; "Das bekannte Getriebegeräusch übertönt in den höheren Fahrstufen den Sound." Translation; At higher speed, the motor noise will drown out most sound effects. Pretty much summarize the drawback of using 5-pole motor - but this is the only choice available for 103s at this point. Aftermarket ball bearings is the only sensible solution to reduce noise level of the motor - even fitted on just one side will reduce the noise considerably.
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river6109		#49 Posted : 10 September 2009 06:38:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Armando <br />Another thing that worries me about this "sensation" is the level of noise from the motor and gears. I noticed that it is not a compact sinus 39xxx, but again a regresion to the 5-pole motor, it seems. We might find ourselves in the same situation as, for example, with the P8/BR38 locomotives. Dermodellbancheker stated in their review; "Das bekannte Getriebegeräusch übertönt in den höheren Fahrstufen den Sound." Translation; At higher speed, the motor noise will drown out most sound effects. Pretty much summarize the drawback of using 5-pole motor - but this is the only choice available for 103s at this point. Aftermarket ball bearings is the only sensible solution to reduce noise level of the motor - even fitted on just one side will reduce the noise considerably. I'm sure when Märklin produces these important locos, they don't include the consumer friendly opinion about noisy motors or spending a few more Euros to eliminate the noise level.
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mmervine		#50 Posted : 12 September 2009 05:22:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,894 Location: Keene, NH		Even with the noise, it seems like a nice lok at a pretty good price (considering a full sound decoder). I assume from reading this thread that the shell is metal?
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