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Offline Bob R  
#1 Posted : 29 July 2009 22:02:12(UTC)
Bob R


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I was just wondering if anyone has done such a thing? I know quite a few convert Trix to Marklin but was just wondering if anyone has gone the other way? Not that I plan to have a Trix layout I do have some Trix stuff that I converted to Marklin as well that I have a lot of Minitrix as well.

Just curious.

Bob
Offline Sander van Wijk  
#2 Posted : 29 July 2009 22:17:09(UTC)
Sander van Wijk

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Hi Bob,

To put it gently; it is not as straightforward to convert from Märklin to Trix as the other way round. Usually, it comes with complications as the wheelsets need to be isolated while Märklin locos are generally not equipped with such wheelsets, hence, a swap needs to be made. (Or a lot of work needs to be done to the original wheelsets.) Also, wheel pick up need to be installed to allow current to be drawn from both rails. Again, not very straightforward. In addition to that, several electronical issues need to be sorted out (AC motor to DC). Generally, I would certainly not recommend a Marklin to Trix conversion.
Sander
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Offline Maxi  
#3 Posted : 29 July 2009 22:52:25(UTC)
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I agree also that the conversion is really not worth trying unless you want to really spend more money than its worth in parts or you really want a specific locomotive that is not offered in two rail version by any other manufacturer which tickles your fancy.

Even converting from Trix Express to Marklin is not a simple task and can be rather expensive.

Offline dntower85  
#4 Posted : 29 July 2009 22:58:12(UTC)
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Shouldn't be to hard, depending on the model. Most of the newer Trix models have a spot for a Pick up shoe, wire the original DC left and right wheel pick ups together for the ground and install a decoder. All of the new marklin motors are DC, except for c-sine. Wheels can most likely be re-gauged... Squeeze them in a few mm. Then change the couplers. The trix wheel flanges are not as thick so if using the original wheels there will be more of a chance of a derail.
DT
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#5 Posted : 30 July 2009 00:52:52(UTC)
Sander van Wijk

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85
<br />Shouldn't be to hard, depending on the model. Most of the newer Trix models have a spot for a Pick up shoe, wire the original DC left and right wheel pick ups together for the ground and install a decoder. All of the new marklin motors are DC, except for c-sine. Wheels can most likely be re-gauged... Squeeze them in a few mm. Then change the couplers. The trix wheel flanges are not as thick so if using the original wheels there will be more of a chance of a derail.


Uhm... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the topic in my understanding is a conversion the other way round. So, start off with a Märklin model, and convert it into a Trix one.
Sander
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Offline dntower85  
#6 Posted : 30 July 2009 05:40:13(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Sander van Wijk
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85
<br />Shouldn't be to hard, depending on the model. ....................... chance of a derail.


Uhm... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the topic in my understanding is a conversion the other way round. So, start off with a Märklin model, and convert it into a Trix one.


Yep I read it backward,[:I] that would hard to insulate the wheels, and a steam engine requires isolating the connecting rods.
DT
Now powered by ECoS II unit#2, RocRail
era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's.
Offline sjlauritsen  
#7 Posted : 30 July 2009 09:12:00(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bob R
<br />I was just wondering if anyone has done such a thing? I know quite a few convert Trix to Marklin but was just wondering if anyone has gone the other way?


Most newer Märklin models, especially the Hobby models, already have insolated wheelsets, the wheels are connected with a wire at the boggie, just remove the connector wire between the wheels, remove the pick-up shoe and remove the decoder. If it is a BR 185, BR 146, BR 232 or similar base-construction order the 654611 sparepart from Märklin and put on the decoders place in the locomotive, now reconnect the wires. Buy a LokPilot or other NEM-compatible decoder and plug it in. Voila! I've done it with my Ludmilla and it works perfectly.

If you need to isolate the wheels there is a perfectly good guide here on how to do that: http://www.trainsahead.com/wheel_turning.htm (scroll down after the RP 25 part, which itself is also exciting)

Otherwise Weinert sometimes have wheelsets that will fit your Märklin model.

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Not that I plan to have a Trix layout I do have some Trix stuff that I converted to Marklin as well that I have a lot of Minitrix as well.


To convert Märklin to Minitrix, apart from standard tools, you will also need an ACME "bi-level molecular transformer with fine scale regulator", otherwise you will not be able to shrink your models precisely from 1:87 scale to 1:160. I've never done it though, and safety glasses is a must! Smile

Best regards
Søren
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