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Offline Ivan  
#1 Posted : 10 March 2026 15:03:00(UTC)
Ivan

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Hi,
Those two tin (Blech) cars are completely unknown to me. Cannot identify them in old catalogues, either.
Are they part of newer replica set, or less probably, self painted by the owner (selbstgemacht) ?
Thanks for your kind attention.
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Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 10 March 2026 16:03:11(UTC)
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Marklin made the Persil car in N scale 15341 with the same running number. No info on the Storck.
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#3 Posted : 10 March 2026 16:26:45(UTC)
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According to these, they are custom jobs...

https://picclick.de/M%C3...t-ohne-187865929833.html

https://picclick.de/M%C3...t-ohne-187865953650.html

"The wagon was only ever displayed in my showcase, therefore it is undamaged.

The pictures are part of the item description.

This freight wagon is a custom-made model and not mass-produced.

This is a private sale"


p. s. I got whacking great alarm by clicking on the pictures the above posted pictures by Ivan and had to reboot...sorry, but, be careful

p. p. s. If they are custom jobs, they look reasonably good; they are not catalog items...
Jimmy T
Analogue; M-track; KLVM; Wine Barrels; Primex
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Offline ccranium  
#4 Posted : 10 March 2026 17:34:32(UTC)
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The couplers and buffers look like the Kolls ~1939-1945 "Type 4" coupling. The 1939 catalog shows some wagons (382K) with similar wagon sides and axle/leaf spring details, but rounded roofs. Without seeing the wagons' ends, is it possible someone cut them down and fabricated flat roofs, and then made custom paint jobs? It'd be a lot of work, but then isn't that one part of our hobby??
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Offline Ivan  
#5 Posted : 10 March 2026 20:43:51(UTC)
Ivan

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Location: Potsdam
Originally Posted by: Jimmy Thompson Go to Quoted Post
According to these, they are custom jobs...

https://picclick.de/M%C3...t-ohne-187865929833.html

https://picclick.de/M%C3...t-ohne-187865953650.html

"The wagon was only ever displayed in my showcase, therefore it is undamaged.

The pictures are part of the item description.

This freight wagon is a custom-made model and not mass-produced.

This is a private sale"


p. s. I got whacking great alarm by clicking on the pictures the above posted pictures by Ivan and had to reboot...sorry, but, be careful

p. p. s. If they are custom jobs, they look reasonably good; they are not catalog items...


The Nuremberg-based company Schweiger produced four variants of these sets based on set 0050 (repainting of the locomotive and carriages approved by Märklin), each in a run of presumably 200 pieces. One of these sets is based on the passenger train set; in this version, the locomotive was painted green, the colors of the English railway company LNER, and the passenger carriages were painted red.
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Offline Ivan  
#6 Posted : 10 March 2026 20:46:24(UTC)
Ivan

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Location: Potsdam
Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
Marklin made the Persil car in N scale 15341 with the same running number. No info on the Storck.


The Nuremberg-based company Schweiger produced four variants of these sets based on set 0050 (repainting of the locomotive and carriages approved by Märklin), each in a run of presumably 200 pieces. One of these sets is based on the passenger train set; in this version, the locomotive was painted green, the colors of the English railway company LNER, and the passenger carriages were painted red.
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Offline Ivan  
#7 Posted : 10 March 2026 20:50:09(UTC)
Ivan

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Location: Potsdam
Originally Posted by: ccranium Go to Quoted Post
The couplers and buffers look like the Kolls ~1939-1945 "Type 4" coupling. The 1939 catalog shows some wagons (382K) with similar wagon sides and axle/leaf spring details, but rounded roofs. Without seeing the wagons' ends, is it possible someone cut them down and fabricated flat roofs, and then made custom paint jobs? It'd be a lot of work, but then isn't that one part of our hobby??


The Nuremberg-based company Schweiger produced four variants of these sets based on set 0050 (repainting of the locomotive and carriages approved by Märklin), each in a run of presumably 200 pieces. One of these sets is based on the passenger train set; in this version, the locomotive was painted green, the colors of the English railway company LNER, and the passenger carriages were painted red.

So, it is set 0050 repainted but I have never seen full sets, and let alone all 4 repainted sets (only 200 were made).
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#8 Posted : 10 March 2026 23:34:20(UTC)
Jimmy Thompson

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Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City
Thanks Ivan! ThumpUp

I also stumbled across this thread from a while ago. It does not seem to cover the rolling stock as much as the loks but I drop it here at least for reference...

https://www.marklin-users.net/fo...e-and-Information-Thread

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