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Offline Michael4  
#1 Posted : 27 February 2026 10:39:58(UTC)
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I wonder, has anyone tried this?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1429471255573734
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Offline EB421  
#2 Posted : 27 February 2026 11:41:56(UTC)
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Colour me curious. So based on the description as Loco Cleaning Oil / Smoke Fluid I assume this is a light kerosene similar to Marklin 02421 or 02423.

https://www.modellbahnunion.com/?ProdNr=SR24-1L

And hey, the bottle is very similar in design to 02421. Interesting. Anyway, I sure as hell wouldn't do this to my Flying Scotsman; but it could be an interesting approach to take for models with older open-frame motors. My biggest concern would be that there could be an chemical reaction with a component like the magnet wire sheathing or potting, that could cause a motor to fail down the line. At least on Marklin DCM or Tri-ang X03/X04 locomotives that's not a big deal as you can just drop a new 60941 and decoder; or have the Tri-ang commutator rewound. But I'd never do this on anything rare or hard to fix.

And this is basically just being lazy. There's a long-running thing in Leica camera worlds about technicians who strip a camera down to individual components, clean them, and reassemble them; vs those who dip the whole mechanism in solvent. Both improve performance, but the version of the process with more effort has longer-lasting gains. That said; where a mechasm is all of:


  • Old/Simple.
  • Cheap to repair or replace if it goes wrong.
  • Difficult to disassemble without risking damage.


This is a good solution for a once-off hack.

My question is - what did they do with the solvent afterward? Did they manage to filter the crud out and re-use it? At €20/litre, it's not cheap!
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Offline analogmike  
#3 Posted : 27 February 2026 14:02:32(UTC)
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If I have a Lok THAT dirty it would behoove me to split the motor and polish the armature. After that it's just one more screw to get the rev. unit out. At this point you might as well remove the side rod assemblies, Because the tires need changing from the solvent anyway. Then, the frame/wheels go for a swim in Lighter Fluid followed by compressed air blast.
Personally, I only use lighter fluid as I have never had any issues with vintage paint damage or winding wire trouble.
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I agree, It's just being lazy, Razz

Mikey
I love the smell of smoke fluid in the morning .
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#4 Posted : 27 February 2026 14:09:23(UTC)
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And it appears that the lights (at least on one end...Sneaky ) shall be nice and bright Woot
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Dr Dirt's Rule #1 and
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Offline Michael4  
#5 Posted : 01 March 2026 10:42:16(UTC)
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For mechanical leaf shutters in cameras I would flood them with lighter fluid. A Leica is different since tapes, rubberised cloth and adhesives are used in the shutter which makes 'flooding' a no no. I use lighter fluid on old locos and have been known to dunk a typewriter in paraffin for a day or two...

(I am no chemist but assume paraffin and kerosene are very similar?
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#6 Posted : 01 March 2026 11:41:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael4 Go to Quoted Post
For mechanical leaf shutters in cameras I would flood them with lighter fluid.


Believe me, you don't want any liquid near such shutters. It will stick them together. The only option is to dismantle them and individually clean them and then assemble it once everything is thoroughly dry. The gear trains that set the shutter speeds need minimal oil - and I say minimal in the extreme - as otherwise the oil will work its way onto the shutter blades and once that happens nothing operates.

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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#7 Posted : 01 March 2026 14:01:58(UTC)
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Quote:
Michael4 wrote: "I am no chemist but assume paraffin and kerosene are very similar?"


Just for reference

https://www.guidechem.com/guidev...rosene-and-paraffin.html

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