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Offline dave55uk  
#1 Posted : 07 February 2026 00:09:52(UTC)
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As a UK customer, I usually order from MSL who charge a reasonable €9.90 postage.
I recently ordered 7 signal kits from Schneider Modellbahnzubehör who charged a whopping €35 postage.
Is this level of postage costs justified?

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Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 07 February 2026 01:49:18(UTC)
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Was the charge for postage or shipping? And was there insurance on the product?
Offline mrmarklin  
#3 Posted : 07 February 2026 04:54:16(UTC)
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I’m in the US. The postage averages around four percent on shipments of EUR 1,000+. I don’t order small items to be shipped by themselves, but I wait until my backorder justifies a shipment.

Sadly, EUR 1,000 is not a very large order anymore, what with engines 500+ and some rolling stock running around 100 each!
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Offline mvd71  
#4 Posted : 07 February 2026 08:02:53(UTC)
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I started buying from Switzerland two years ago, and it was about 27chf for a shipment with 4-6 passenger wagons, now it is coming in at 37chf for similar packages.
Offline dave55uk  
#5 Posted : 07 February 2026 12:55:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
Was the charge for postage or shipping? And was there insurance on the product?


I don't know. I'll check the invoice/consignment note when it arrives.
The website does say Insurance is extra although there was no option to in/exclude it.

When it does arrive, I'll weigh it and then see how much Royal Mail would charge to send it back.
Offline dave55uk  
#6 Posted : 08 February 2026 00:38:45(UTC)
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My parcel arrived today.

A cardboard box 267x178x55mm.
Weight 205g.
Sent by Deutsche Post.
Shipping cost €35

To return it by Royal Mail using a comparable service,
International Standard, 3-5 days delivery - £5.80.

So a HUGE difference going one way -v- going the other way,
and a difference I cannot say is justified.

Offline bgemski  
#7 Posted : 08 February 2026 03:22:35(UTC)
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Unfortunately, shipping costs have literally skyrocketed in recent years due to well anything to be honest. Generally size along with weight are main factors then of course how fast. It all plays a part. In my job I ship computer systems. Fragile is huge as well. I generally rather ship shipments by the skid instead of by the piece. Surprisingly less damage by the skid as compared to by the piece. All of this factors into cost. Unfortunately, as time goes on more and more items are being shipped to your door and of course more people are using shipping services. In the end we pay for it. Angry
Offline mvd71  
#8 Posted : 08 February 2026 05:22:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dave55uk Go to Quoted Post
My parcel arrived today.

A cardboard box 267x178x55mm.
Weight 205g.
Sent by Deutsche Post.
Shipping cost €35

To return it by Royal Mail using a comparable service,
International Standard, 3-5 days delivery - £5.80.

So a HUGE difference going one way -v- going the other way,
and a difference I cannot say is justified.



I suspect that they are charging for the box, packaging materials, and staff to pack things up.

I’m having to consolidate shipping to make things viable.

Cheers….

Mike
Online RudiC  
#9 Posted : 08 February 2026 10:01:40(UTC)
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@dave55uk:

Depending on the size of your parcel, DHL (=Deutsch Post) will charge the supplier

DHL.jpg

So, the rest of the 35€ may be due to the supplier's handling cost, as mvd71 presumes.

BTW, there should be a price tag on the parcel indicating the forwarding cost.
Regards,
Rüdiger (Rudi)
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Offline bph  
#10 Posted : 08 February 2026 10:38:57(UTC)
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The shop list that the shipping cost is 10€ in Europe and 35€ to the rest of the world.
https://schneider-mbz.de/pages/versand

I think they owe you an explanation for why they have charged you 35€ and not 10€, even if UK has left the EU, it's still part of Europe.

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Offline dave55uk  
#11 Posted : 08 February 2026 11:46:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RudiC Go to Quoted Post
@dave55uk:

Depending on the size of your parcel, DHL (=Deutsch Post) will charge the supplier

...

So, the rest of the 35€ may be due to the supplier's handling cost, as mvd71 presumes.

BTW, there should be a price tag on the parcel indicating the forwarding cost.


There's nothing on the label regarding cost.

Offline David Dewar  
#12 Posted : 08 February 2026 12:41:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dave55uk Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RudiC Go to Quoted Post
@dave55uk:

Depending on the size of your parcel, DHL (=Deutsch Post) will charge the supplier

...

So, the rest of the 35€ may be due to the supplier's handling cost, as mvd71 presumes.

BTW, there should be a price tag on the parcel indicating the forwarding cost.


There's nothing on the label regarding cost.



Dave Why not just order from MSL and save the postage
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline dave55uk  
#13 Posted : 08 February 2026 12:45:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post


Dave Why not just order from MSL and save the postage


TBH, I did search for Schneider but only got 4 locos from another maker,
so I assumed [yeah, yeah, I know :-)] they didn't carry them.

But if you have a link..... ;-)
Offline David Dewar  
#14 Posted : 08 February 2026 14:49:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dave55uk Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post


Dave Why not just order from MSL and save the postage


TBH, I did search for Schneider but only got 4 locos from another maker,
so I assumed [yeah, yeah, I know :-)] they didn't carry them.

But if you have a link..... ;-)


Sorry Dave I just presumed they would have them as they appear to supply most items.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline mike c  
#15 Posted : 08 February 2026 20:36:37(UTC)
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The consumer rates are posted on https://shop.deutschepos...e/dhl-online-frankierung

Corporate clients have access to lower rates (bulk, preferred client status, etc), but some seem to charge the official rate and may pocket the difference as added profit

A parcel containing a few coaches/cars or one or two locomotives usually falls in the "Up to 2kg" category.
If you choose an option with full insurance and tracking, it can add to the cost.
Shipments to the USA must now have tariffs pre-paid under an agreement with US Post and US CBP.

Regards

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Offline rhfil  
#16 Posted : 09 February 2026 00:50:57(UTC)
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In the future before placing an order it would be a good idea to get a price quote to include shipping.
Offline H0  
#17 Posted : 09 February 2026 08:15:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RudiC Go to Quoted Post
So, the rest of the 35€ may be due to the supplier's handling cost, as mvd71 presumes.
The prices you show are without insurance and without tracking.
Options with tracking and insurance will be more expensive.

Regards
Tom
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Offline dave55uk  
#18 Posted : 09 February 2026 13:16:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RudiC Go to Quoted Post
So, the rest of the 35€ may be due to the supplier's handling cost, as mvd71 presumes.
The prices you show are without insurance and without tracking.
Options with tracking and insurance will be more expensive.



As far as I can tell, there was no insurance or definately no tracking.
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Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 09 February 2026 15:20:55(UTC)
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The company writes on their site:
"Die Versandkosten innerhalb von Europa betragen 10,00 € pro Bestellung.
Wir tragen für Sie auch hier die kompletten Versandkosten ab einem Warenwert von 100,00 €."

So if we take that verbatimly, the postage rate for the UK should be only €10 or even €0, depending on the value.

I'm afraid they mean "EU", even though they write Europe.

A big DHL parcel with insurance and tracking is €34.99 to the UK. So the €35 given by Schneider for worldwide deliveries is maybe just an attempt to give a single figure that is on the safe side.
Maybe they also use it as compensation for the redtape, tariff declaration, VAT paperworks etc.

I compared the DHL rates for France and UK and €15 for the UK looks like a fair rate.

If you intend to order there again, maybe ask them nicely about the high postage rate that does not match their description (€10 with Europe).
Regards
Tom
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Offline David Dewar  
#20 Posted : 09 February 2026 16:54:52(UTC)
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Fedex are 10euros form MSL to Scotland. We are not of course part of the EU but that does not appear to make a difference. Delivery is 4 days and VAT free for small anounts. I know many do not like Fedex but it is OK here with good service.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline dave55uk  
#21 Posted : 10 February 2026 12:08:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Fedex are 10euros form MSL to Scotland. We are not of course part of the EU but that does not appear to make a difference. Delivery is 4 days and VAT free for small anounts. I know many do not like Fedex but it is OK here with good service.


Yes, MSL is my 'go to' shop and 10€ I think is fair. No problems (well, only one) with FedEx.
Offline dave55uk  
#22 Posted : 10 February 2026 13:26:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post

Maybe they also use it as compensation for the redtape, tariff declaration, VAT paperworks etc.



That's the reason they gave in their reply - "Regarding your question about the postage costs, we would like to clarify that shipments to the UK are treated as non-EU exports since Brexit. This means that, in addition to the physical shipping, we must prepare customs documentation, export paperwork and invoices, which adds administrative effort and cost."

I have asked them if there are any stockists in Germany that carry their items.
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