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Offline Eddie7979  
#1 Posted : 03 February 2026 01:27:46(UTC)
Eddie7979

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Hi everyone,

I am hoping to get a locomotive from Hag (something I’ve always wanted to have), the ones I like on eBay tend to be DC and I was wondering how easy it was to convert them to AC.

I noticed the wheel contacts are screwed in so I’m thinking it’s probably an easy swap (but sometimes, I wonder if that would be too easy).

My goal will be to get an analogue or old digital model, the convert it using a decoder from ESU. I found some sites in Switzerland that sells custom PCB for lighting (also some designed for Marklin).

The only worry I have is availability of parts, seems that Hag products are hard to come by. I even tried to preorder a shunter from a shop in Switzerland but just don’t have much success (usually due to shipping to Australia).

Any info would be appreciated, as well as any recommendations of online stores that sell the brand.

Thank you

Eddie
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#2 Posted : 03 February 2026 03:10:41(UTC)
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For older HAG In most cases this is very easy assuming you are putting in a digital decoder. A marklin pickup shoe can work, but best to go OEM HAG.

You really don't need anything else unless you want to properly upgrade the lighting beyond the factory chassis ground system.
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Offline Eddie7979  
#3 Posted : 03 February 2026 09:09:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
For older HAG In most cases this is very easy assuming you are putting in a digital decoder. A marklin pickup shoe can work, but best to go OEM HAG.

You really don't need anything else unless you want to properly upgrade the lighting beyond the factory chassis ground system.


Thanks for the information, I just realised that there might be an issue with the wheels being DC.

Would be good to see if anyone tried this conversion and whether the wheels were problematic.
Eddie
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Offline Unholz  
#4 Posted : 03 February 2026 09:51:33(UTC)
Unholz

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I certainly don't want to spoil the fun or discourage you, but your possible project depends on many specific factors:

- HAG produced HO models from approximately 1956 until today
- Generally, a conversion is possible, but there are enormous differences between the models/generations
- The original and "true" HAG company closed down in the year 2012
- Since then, a new outfit has taken over the business - I will refrain from commenting their quality and "business philosophy" for obvious reasons Sad
- Yes, the wheels will almost certainly be a problem: the AC/DC wheel flange spacing is not identical, and often you can't just adjust this in a few minutes
- Giving you tips would be very much easier if you could indicate the type/item number/production year of a specific model you have set your eyes on
- Obtaining (new) models even from Swiss dealers is becoming increasingly difficult because many dealers no longer wish to deal with the new company mentioned above
- A list of dealers still willing to cooperate with the company is available here: https://www.hag.swiss/haendler/ (Swiss domestic on the left, international on the right)
- There is a HAG web forum that has been active for over 20 years: https://www.forum.hag-info.ch/ Communication there is in German, but English posters are welcome, especially when they use a translator like www.deepl.com In case of difficulties, I am one of the moderators there and can help.
- Good luck! ThumpUp
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Offline Eddie7979  
#5 Posted : 04 February 2026 01:22:31(UTC)
Eddie7979

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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
I certainly don't want to spoil the fun or discourage you, but your possible project depends on many specific factors:

- HAG produced HO models from approximately 1956 until today
- Generally, a conversion is possible, but there are enormous differences between the models/generations
- The original and "true" HAG company closed down in the year 2012
- Since then, a new outfit has taken over the business - I will refrain from commenting their quality and "business philosophy" for obvious reasons Sad
- Yes, the wheels will almost certainly be a problem: the AC/DC wheel flange spacing is not identical, and often you can't just adjust this in a few minutes
- Giving you tips would be very much easier if you could indicate the type/item number/production year of a specific model you have set your eyes on
- Obtaining (new) models even from Swiss dealers is becoming increasingly difficult because many dealers no longer wish to deal with the new company mentioned above
- A list of dealers still willing to cooperate with the company is available here: https://www.hag.swiss/haendler/ (Swiss domestic on the left, international on the right)
- There is a HAG web forum that has been active for over 20 years: https://www.forum.hag-info.ch/ Communication there is in German, but English posters are welcome, especially when they use a translator like www.deepl.com In case of difficulties, I am one of the moderators there and can help.
- Good luck! ThumpUp


Hello,
Thank you for sharing, it’s a shame that the old company closed and that it has been taken over.

I think I will look for a ln AC version of a model, starting an analogue for conversion. At least I will be somewhat familiar with the inner workings and only have to understand the minor differences.

It terms of era, I’m aiming for the time when Hag used the green boxes - not sure if that’s pre-2012 or not.

Really appreciate your time to share the information!
Eddie
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#6 Posted : 04 February 2026 04:14:54(UTC)
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Not to further complicate, but remember if you are converting an AC unit to digital you will need to add the DC motor permanent magnet - which are expensive and difficult to source... (which is why I like converting the DC variants to AC...)

Not relevant if you are keeping it analogue of course.

Knowing it is green box-era, a DC to AC conversion should not be difficult at all...
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Offline mvd71  
#7 Posted : 04 February 2026 05:27:02(UTC)
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I have converted a few hag locos to digital and converted a few dc models to ac digital. I’ve done the re 4/4, re 6/6, and ae 6/6. They have all been not too difficult to convert, and ran well. But there can be a few details to capture on the way.

Cheers….

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Offline Unholz  
#8 Posted : 04 February 2026 09:07:45(UTC)
Unholz

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Originally Posted by: Eddie7979 Go to Quoted Post

It terms of era, I’m aiming for the time when Hag used the green boxes - not sure if that’s pre-2012 or not.

Yes, unless somebody swapped boxes, this is an extremely reliable indicator of pre-2012.

BTW, there is also a HAG collectors database where you can search for all HO models produced between 1956 and 2012. Often you will find something easily by entering the "road number" ("Betriebsnummer") of the model (the printed number given by the prototype railway company to their rolling stock) in the database: https://frunum.de/ The Red Arrow in the picture below, for instance, carries the road number 604.

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Offline GlennM  
#9 Posted : 04 February 2026 10:19:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Eddie7979 Go to Quoted Post

It terms of era, I’m aiming for the time when Hag used the green boxes - not sure if that’s pre-2012 or not.

Yes, unless somebody swapped boxes, this is an extremely reliable indicator of pre-2012.

BTW, there is also a HAG collectors database where you can search for all HO models produced between 1956 and 2012. Often you will find something easily by entering the "road number" ("Betriebsnummer") of the model (the printed number given by the prototype railway company to their rolling stock) in the database: https://frunum.de/ The Red Arrow in the picture below, for instance, carries the road number 604.

frunum_example.png


This is very helpful

Thank you

Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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Offline mike c  
#10 Posted : 05 February 2026 06:55:10(UTC)
mike c

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The Hag Shunter (Eem) was a product from Hag Classic (Tekswiss/Adolf Schoch), which used the Hag name for a short period after the closing of Morschwil and the original company. The name and business was later sold to Heinz Urech (Polytrona/Stansstad) who runs the official business today.
It all seems a little complicated and the new Hag (Stansstad) has no connection with the Tekswiss company.

To convert a modern (post-1985) model from AC to modern digital requires a few modifications. I have found that it is often better to find a digital model. Shops like Roundhouse, Hobby-Huesli and others may still have older models in stock. Acquiring those models can be a little complicated, especially if the shops don't want to ship them outside Switzerland. Converting Hag models was relatively easy when using the first generation Motorola 6080/6090 decoders, but when using ESU, Zimo or other, you have to make certain mods to the motor block and the wiring, especially if the model uses the chassis for the return (ground).

If you find a Hag model, there are places in Switzerland who will do the conversion or modify the model (new circuitry) if you send the model to them. It can cost a few hundred francs to get done, but if you are not an expert, it can yield better results.

Contact Luessi.ch, eyro.ch or other dealer for information on what services they offer (conversion, modification, etc)

Regards

Mike C
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