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Offline fabstar68  
#1 Posted : 10 November 2025 17:37:17(UTC)
fabstar68

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hi all,

i noted that my marklin central station 3 plus, even if in its control panel says that it is outputting 19.4 volts AC, the real voltage is 11.4 volts. i tested this value directly at the 2 pin output port of the console, with no load. on the other hand, my old mobile station 2 outputs roughly 16v ac. i used 3 different voltage detector devices, all report the same.

is this normal ? any1 else having this issue (if it's a issue) ? thanks
Offline osoraku  
#2 Posted : 10 November 2025 17:47:11(UTC)
osoraku

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Dear Fabstar -

Your multimeter is averaging over the digital waveform (an oscilloscope would work better, though expensive). Look at a description of a DCC waveform for more understanding, and how it differs from AC or DC.

Osoraku
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Offline BenP  
#3 Posted : 10 November 2025 17:48:12(UTC)
BenP

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Originally Posted by: fabstar68 Go to Quoted Post
hi all,

i noted that my marklin central station 3 plus, even if in its control panel says that it is outputting 19.4 volts AC, the real voltage is 11.4 volts. i tested this value directly at the 2 pin output port of the console, with no load. on the other hand, my old mobile station 2 outputs roughly 16v ac. i used 3 different voltage detector devices, all report the same.

is this normal ? any1 else having this issue (if it's a issue) ? thanks


Digital AC hard to measure with consumer meters, except for the old fashioned, sluggish needle ones. I (wrongly) measure ~10V AC on my digital meters.
Ben
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Offline fabstar68  
#4 Posted : 10 November 2025 19:26:40(UTC)
fabstar68

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thank you guys for all your kind replies,

Fab
Offline bph  
#5 Posted : 10 November 2025 21:56:18(UTC)
bph

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To get a better reading, try to measure the AC and the DC voltage, and use the formula on this page:
https://www.fluke.com/en/learn/blog/digital-multimeters/facts-about-true-rms-measurement

Some quality multimeters have a built-in AC+DC measure mode, and that mode will give a better reading.

and also try a search on the forum as it's been extensively discussed previously........
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Offline fabstar68  
#6 Posted : 11 November 2025 17:47:32(UTC)
fabstar68

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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
To get a better reading, try to measure the AC and the DC voltage, and use the formula on this page:
https://www.fluke.com/en/learn/blog/digital-multimeters/facts-about-true-rms-measurement

Some quality multimeters have a built-in AC+DC measure mode, and that mode will give a better reading.

and also try a search on the forum as it's been extensively discussed previously........


thanks, as a matter of fact i have a true rms multimeter, it's not cheap...nevertheless, i get this odd 11.4 AC volts reading. i will read the article you linked

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Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 12 November 2025 08:46:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fabstar68 Go to Quoted Post
thanks, as a matter of fact i have a true rms multimeter, it's not cheap...nevertheless, i get this odd 11.4 AC volts reading.
A True RMS meter with a sampling frequency of 100 kHz or higher should yield useful results.
Old low-frequency True RMS meters will return nonsense for the digital track signal that has around 10 kHz. Even expensive ones.

Regards
Tom
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