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Offline Kristaki  
#1 Posted : 05 October 2025 19:03:53(UTC)
Kristaki

Switzerland   
Joined: 01/10/2025(UTC)
Posts: 11
Location: Valais, Sierre
Hello has told in previous msg here i am new on digital...

i have the 37467 she is adress factory 46.... do i have to use obligation 46 ?

the protocol is motoral if yes which one i am wiht ecos esu and actually i do this

i add loco then i put m28 and 46 adress sniffer 0....

then i go in detect in large 3 ooption on the ecos esu

but then the loco or go slow or go super fast and or dont stop or stop or go reverse... i mean its very complicated this esu or if i do something wrong can someone help me i am very confuse


hope someone appear here to help me i like to avoid to go in a store to ask for help.

i put the loco on the main track its connected to the prog plug... is this my failutre to do this on the progr track and should work good on a tnoher track ( i could do a prog track then next and once done put it on the main track ) is this my mistake...

i must really undrstand this ecos esu it seems complicated at start ... snif S.O.S....:)
Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 05 October 2025 20:38:06(UTC)
rhfil

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Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth
The 37467 is a mfx locomotive so should be capable of communicating in MM, DCC, or mfx. The manual that came with the 37467 should have the MM and DCC addresses. Most new controllers might automatically link with a mfx loco. I am not familiar with ESU controllers so can not help you with it and since you repeatedly fail to provide the ESU model you have it is unlikely anyone here can exactly help you with it even if they are familiar with ESU.
Offline mike c  
#3 Posted : 05 October 2025 22:07:05(UTC)
mike c

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Location: Montreal, QC
Originally Posted by: Kristaki Go to Quoted Post
Hello has told in previous msg here i am new on digital...

i have the 37467 she is adress factory 46.... do i have to use obligation 46 ?

the protocol is motoral if yes which one i am wiht ecos esu and actually i do this

i add loco then i put m28 and 46 adress sniffer 0....

then i go in detect in large 3 ooption on the ecos esu

but then the loco or go slow or go super fast and or dont stop or stop or go reverse... i mean its very complicated this esu or if i do something wrong can someone help me i am very confuse

hope someone appear here to help me i like to avoid to go in a store to ask for help.

i put the loco on the main track its connected to the prog plug... is this my failutre to do this on the progr track and should work good on a tnoher track ( i could do a prog track then next and once done put it on the main track ) is this my mistake...

i must really undrstand this ecos esu it seems complicated at start ... snif S.O.S....:)


The default MM (Motorola) address for the Re 460 is 46
The Mfx address for the loco should be: Re 460 105-0 SBB (if they used the same idea they used for the 37362 model)
I don't think that the decoders in models at that point were DCC compatible. The later ones used DCC 03.

You can change the MM address pretty easily. I don't know how to do it with the ECOS. My system was to choose something connected to the locomotive, two digits that are not used for other locomotives, be it 46, 60, 01, 10, 05 or 50 in this case)

If you need help with ECOS, perhaps the staff at Hobby Centre in Sion can help.
If not, the wonderful thing about Switzerland is that there are hobby shops in many towns.

Regards

Mike C
Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 05 October 2025 22:38:27(UTC)
rhfil

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Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth
There are a number of videos on YouTube for the various ESU Ecos models. You might get help watching one and sometimes you can contact the presenters.
Offline Kristaki  
#5 Posted : 06 October 2025 11:40:26(UTC)
Kristaki

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Location: Valais, Sierre
Thank you very much i will go to the hobby center i tried to call them but no reply... last week now today is open monday at 14pm i am not far from them i will go there see if they can give me some hints...

or few lessons so i am good with familiar ecos esu this is the model sorry if orgot ot mention it previously https://www.brack.ch/fr/...CWqRCZ1MQxMaAhBpEALw_wcB


I will try to redo this loc 37467 on a prog track i saw video but not sure what wrong i do:)
i am sure its not that complicated is matter to know how to differenciate all these protocols and to add a loc properly:)


Ty and lets see if i am lucky to have it working is a very nice loco

Ty to all of u

Offline rhfil  
#6 Posted : 06 October 2025 14:10:57(UTC)
rhfil

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Posts: 744
Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth
According to the description your controller should recognize mfx locos just by putting them on the layout. A programming track which is a separate piece of track from the layout and a separate output from the layout output on Marklin controllers is used to change the cv settings on a loco. Having it occur on a separate output and a separate track makes sense to protect other decoders. The one problem I have found with mfx locomotives being discovered by a controller is realizing it has been done. The locomotive is already in the registry but you do not realize it. Take the time to look carefully though the list of locomotives to see if it is already there.
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Offline Kristaki  
#7 Posted : 06 October 2025 19:42:10(UTC)
Kristaki

Switzerland   
Joined: 01/10/2025(UTC)
Posts: 11
Location: Valais, Sierre
tank you very much i went to hobby centre in sion and talked to the boss there i will finally sell my ecos esu here in swiss if anyone seek one tell me is way too complicated i think be best i have a normal marklin one. maybe is best for me but in any case ty:)

have a nice day and next week i start to build the circuit but be with the marklin console
Offline rhfil  
#8 Posted : 06 October 2025 20:08:25(UTC)
rhfil

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Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC)
Posts: 744
Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth
The advantage of the Marklin CS3 is that there is a variety of resources available for help including many people in here. You might still want to get manual 03093 though and download the CS3+ online manual from the Marklin web site. And Model Train Fun has a number of easy to follow videos which can take you from the very basic to more advanced stuff.
Offline mike c  
#9 Posted : 07 October 2025 05:06:21(UTC)
mike c

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Posts: 8,287
Location: Montreal, QC
Before you sell your ECOS, you can check out the esu website, including their own support forum https://www.esu.eu/support/

Regards

Mike C
Offline Kristaki  
#10 Posted : 07 October 2025 09:38:35(UTC)
Kristaki

Switzerland   
Joined: 01/10/2025(UTC)
Posts: 11
Location: Valais, Sierre
yes Mike i will but maybe is better a more simple marklin console for me i like this ecos esu but the add a loc is so tricky... in any case not sure if will get sold i see others on ricardo in swiss but anyway is like new and i rather take a console and maybe someone needs an ecos esu for its layout with more knowledges. has soon my boards are settle i will start to build the layout and learn digital for sure is not complicated matter to pass few hours into it
Offline blid  
#11 Posted : 07 October 2025 13:34:08(UTC)
blid

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Joined: 02/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 248
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Hi Kristaki,
This is a Marklin user forum and a lot of members can’t think of using products from other manufacturers. But there is a lot of us that do, because we think that those products somehow suits are needs better. I don’t want to start a nonsense discussion about what controller is the best. I just want to point out that your ESU EcoS works just like the Marklin controllers with Marklin decoders. You are new to this and just have to understand how it all works. No need to sell the ECoS.
Over the years I have used Marklin 6021, CS1 and CS2 for my H0 C-track layout. For my OneGauge and Z-gauge layouts I have used CS2, ESU CS1 Reloaded and ESU EcoS 2.1. I have never used a Marklin CS3 so no experience of it. In my opinion ESU has been way ahead of Marklin when it comes to electronics and programming user friendly devices.
If your engine has a Marklin mfx decoder you need to know that ESU is not allowed to use word “mfx”. They call it M4. In my manual section 11.2.1. Entering M4 locomotives describes the procedure. The procedure is supposed to be automatic. Just like it is on Marklin controllers. Unfortunately the automatic process is not always successful and it has nothing to do with the controller.
For the best result you need a good electrical connection between the controller and decoder and no other digital equipment making noises during the process. So a couple of clean tracks properly connected to the mains or programming track output on the EcoS. Make sure that the usually red cable that goes to the center studs are connected to the side of the socket marked “B” for power. The usually brown cable to the outer rails are on the “0” side of the socket for ground. When connecting the cables to C-track it is very easy to have the wires swapped the wrong way. Also make sure the wheels and slider of the engine are clean.
Note that a decoder capable of understanding more than one protocol only responds to the protocol with the highest priority. Mfx (M4) has the highest followed by DCC and then Marklin Motorola. So if your decoder understand DCC and MM as well and you create entries for the engine with those addresses the decoder will not respond as long as mfx (M4) is activated.
Another note is that my EcoS came with Railcom activated. Railcom is a fairly resent extension of DCC to enable two way communication. My Digitrax decoders for Z-gauge didn’t like that so I had to deactivate it. A good policy is to only activate what you need. I need all protocols so all are activated with no problems.
I close with my point for sticking with Marklin devices. If you get a problem it is a Marklin problem and they should help. If you mix manufacturers the likely response from all of them would probably be like: “Sorry, you are using devices from other manufacturers and we don’t know anything about them. You have to ask them”. Then it is good to have forums like this.
Apologize for not responding until now.
OneGauge Marklin and MTH, ESU ECoS 2.1 on LGB tracks. MTH 3-rail 0-gauge, DCS on GarGraves tracks. Z: Rokuhan tracks, analog or DCC+TC Gold.
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