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Breton		#1 Posted : 08 June 2025 11:12:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/05/2025(UTC) Posts: 3		Hello, has anyone ever mounted Kadee couplers (17, 18 or 19) on a Marklin 30000 (class 89.0 tank locomotive). It's NEM pockets equipped. Thanks for your help.

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Goofy		#2 Posted : 09 June 2025 22:04:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,281		I recommended you long Kadee couple and i believe it´s number 380-19. If you feel unsure you can try extra long 380-20.
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DasBert33		#3 Posted : 09 June 2025 23:21:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,275		How do you handle the 'uncouple bar' of the Kadees? In my experience they get stuck at pukos near switches when used for AC/Marklin.

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Goofy		#4 Posted : 11 June 2025 06:54:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,281		There is work toy you can bend uncouple bar or even better way to cut a piece off the uncouple bar. I have seen märklinist use Kadee couples without problem. I too used Kadee before.
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mvd71		#5 Posted : 11 June 2025 10:58:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,933 Location: Auckland,		If I can ask a stupid question here. Why fit Kadee couplers? What is the benefit?

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marklinist5999		#6 Posted : 11 June 2025 12:53:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,943 Location: Michigan, Troy		I bought a second hand sbb hamo croc from my dealer in n1991. It was on consignment from a retired doctor's collection. He had Kadees in it. Useless to me, so I put the original couplers back on.

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Goofy		#7 Posted : 11 June 2025 15:32:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,281		Originally Posted by: mvd71 If I can ask a stupid question here. Why fit Kadee couplers? What is the benefit? Kadee do also have NEM pocket standard by just simple click into it.
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marklinist5999		#8 Posted : 11 June 2025 17:08:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,943 Location: Michigan, Troy		Not back then Goofy! My Croc doesn't have n.e.m. pockets. It has the old button clip in pocket.

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mvd71		#9 Posted : 11 June 2025 20:59:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,933 Location: Auckland,		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: mvd71 If I can ask a stupid question here. Why fit Kadee couplers? What is the benefit? Kadee do also have NEM pocket standard by just simple click into it. I understand that, but what is the benefit of kadee couplers compared to the Märklin couplers? Or is it just personal preference?

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Jimmy Thompson		#10 Posted : 11 June 2025 22:47:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC) Posts: 760 Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City		Sigh...okay...Full Confession For me...personally... !!! I have not done the whole "remote uncoupling-coupling" beyond my 5112/5113 m-track and my "popsicle stick" uncoupler...but I am a way old guy. Stay with me here...Please HOWEVER!!! If one has some remote areas wherein one may need some remote shunting or a LOT of shunting, car-spotting at stations and industries, shadow stations et al....OR one has major industrial or passenger facilities which require moves thither and yon, that are "remote" so to speak... then I could possibly see the advantage to Kadee couplers...possibly...allowing for that pesky need for the magnetic pads required for the full remote activity - and nodding to the above note regarding the interference with the pukos My biggest problem, believe it or not , is that kadee knuckle couplers are not really near my "Prototype foe Everything" mentality (such as it is ( in re Euro trains - Loop + turn-buckle)), beyond a few ultra-Era VI-VII remote-control loks which have a version of a knuckle coupler. Again...personally I do not like the vision of knuckles on Euro train other than those to which they have been randomly applied... and, cough, cough...obviously US/Canada outline loks and cars would be seen with knuckle couplers... And yet... Dr Dirt's Rule #1 - Your Railroad, Your Rules! Go for it p.s. apparently Kadees are not friendly for coupling on curves, but that may be just urban legend - care to be taken Edited by user 12 June 2025 11:34:19(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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jerdenberg		#11 Posted : 12 June 2025 09:06:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,025 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		On my Union-Pacific oriented layout the KaDee-style couplers are somewhat more realistic than the Märklin couplers. As to coupling on curves, the KaDee-style couplers tend to be a little less difficult than the Märklin ones. I am writing "Kadee-style" as my experience with real Kadees in Märklin NEM pockets is somewhat underwhelming. Some time ago I posted about this here I asked KaDee about this, but their response was that their NEM couplers are in accordance with NEM standards (but those do not specify the thickness of the coupler shaft). The 1.5mm of the KaDees differs from the 1.6mm of couplers supplied with Trix US cars. Out of curiosity I have ordered KaDee-style knuckle couplers from a Chinese supplier, and these have the same shaft thickness as the Trix ones (same manufacturer?). Jeroen
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