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Offline Ivan  
#1 Posted : 24 May 2025 22:20:51(UTC)
Ivan

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When Märklin 3147 DB Diesellokomotive is running for some time, the coil of reverse unit (Mechanical FRU) gets hot (felt when touching with the tip of the finger the black tape wrapped over the coil).
Is something wrong with reverse unit ?
Other than that, everything runs smoothly.
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Offline Paul59  
#2 Posted : 25 May 2025 09:46:47(UTC)
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Hello Ivan, the typical reversing unit (20824) in my experience draw about 70 to 80 mA all the time the loco is running. Therefore, at a medium speed running at around 12v the coil in the reverse unit is dispersing just under 1 watt of power. This will make it warm up a bit.

I've never really considered the heat in the unit. I have that same loco so I will give it a run for a while and see how warm or hot mine gets.

I'll post again later today.

Paul
Marklin HO using M track. Now reverted to analogue as I find it has more character and is more fun...... and I understand it!
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Offline Ivan  
#3 Posted : 25 May 2025 10:10:11(UTC)
Ivan

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My question was probably premature. Being away from home, I bought the loco elsewhere and tested it simply connecting it to the Power Adapter Charger for Philips Shaver (15V). In a word, it was not tested on the layout (Anlage) with the proper transformer and no possibility to apply reverse impulse. So, when FRU is moved manually, the spring cannot return the unit to reversed position, and it remains under constant voltage in the middle, and solenoid must receive more voltage. If the lever is pushed back to proper reversed position, there is no overheating of the coil. That`s what I think. Anyway, it would be interesting to hear the result of your testing. Actually, I have never tried myself to see how warm FRU gets when the loco is running. Thank you.
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Offline Paul59  
#4 Posted : 25 May 2025 13:50:45(UTC)
Paul59

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Ivan - this morning I ran my 3147 around for 15 minutes with a train of eight tankers.
The reverse unit was warm afterwards but I wouldn't describe it as hot. This loco runs well with a moderately low controller setting - I think around 10-11 volts.

Since you connected it to 15v the current through the coil would be proportionately higher so a bit more heat would be expected.
Due to the way these locos are wired the reversing solenoid is energised all the time the loco is running. The spring prevents the reverse switch from moving below about 22 volts or so but current is still flowing through the coil - just not enough to overcome the spring and operate the switch.

It sounds like your loco just needs a bit of a service with adjustment of the reverser spring.
From what you describe I would think it will be fine after that.

Good luck with it - it's a great loco with that lovely 'floaty' motion that is typical of analogue AC locos.
Marklin HO using M track. Now reverted to analogue as I find it has more character and is more fun...... and I understand it!
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