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Offline rdn0609  
#1 Posted : 03 May 2025 20:56:53(UTC)
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Hello experts,

I wanted to understand if Märklin 6005 can be used in an old analog layout?

The aim is to have more power in the layout to run more numbers of trains.

Currently I use a Märklin 66470.

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Raj
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Offline marklinist5999  
#2 Posted : 03 May 2025 22:07:05(UTC)
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It could be but it is a switched mode power supply and not a conventional transformer. It also doesn't have a speed controller and no reverse direction ability.
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#3 Posted : 03 May 2025 22:43:33(UTC)
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Thanks a lot!

Then I guess I’ll refrain from getting that.
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Offline xxup  
#4 Posted : 03 May 2025 23:06:18(UTC)
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I don't recall a 6005. Did you mean a 60055? The 6001-6003 were definitely transformers, and the marklin database also describes a 60055 as a transformer for the USA (110v) market, which would not be any use for someone in Sweden.

EDIT: I just found this -> https://wiki.3rail.nl/in...?title=M%C3%A4rklin_6005 It must be more that 25 years sold and is unlikely to be a switched mode power supply. Would it be as simple as hooking this thing up to a potentiometer and driving the analogue trains from that?
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#5 Posted : 04 May 2025 00:45:49(UTC)
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if it is what xxup says, it can be used to power Märklin 6600 and 6699 units, giving excellent analogue control and direction switching.
With its 60VA output, you should have enough for 2 such units.

Also excellent for lighting and accessories on a permanent layout.
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#6 Posted : 04 May 2025 01:35:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
It could be but it is a switched mode power supply and not a conventional transformer. It also doesn't have a speed controller and no reverse direction ability.


It is NOT a switch mode power supply. It is a 60va transformer that was brought out with the cs1 to provide additional power over the older versions that were used with the 6021 control.

You could use it on an analogue layout inconjunction with other components.
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#7 Posted : 04 May 2025 01:36:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
if it is what xxup says, it can be used to power Märklin 6600 and 6699 units, giving excellent analogue control and direction switching.
With its 60VA output, you should have enough for 2 such units.

Also excellent for lighting and accessories on a permanent layout.


Exactly! Excellent advice!!
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Offline bph  
#8 Posted : 04 May 2025 11:43:42(UTC)
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The 6005 is perfect for powering lights and accessories that need 16v AC, in an old analogue layout.
That way your 66470 won't need to power lights etc, and will have a little more power for running your trains.

The manual, if you don't have it: 6002_6005_6647_Transformator.pdf

Märklin wiring instructions: 68621.pdf
If you wire with a common ground (brown), then take special notice of pages 8 to 10.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#9 Posted : 04 May 2025 13:30:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
I don't recall a 6005. Did you mean a 60055? The 6001-6003 were definitely transformers, and the marklin database also describes a 60055 as a transformer for the USA (110v) market, which would not be any use for someone in Sweden.


The 60055 is definitely a switchmode power supply, I have just bought a couple from Lokshop for the grand sum of 16 Euro each, from their closing down stock clear out. I'm banking on the internals being the same as their other 60041 etc supplies of the same vintage and that the only difference is the attached power cord. At that price it is worth the risk.
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Offline rbw993  
#10 Posted : 04 May 2025 14:26:31(UTC)
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Hi Alan,
Don't want to be rude but a 60055 is not switched mode. They were introduced in 2005 long before the switched mode power supplies were available. You can tell because of the weight caused by all the steel and copper windings that make up the actual transformer. I have a bunch and have had them for years. Marklin doc never refers to them as anything other than a transformer.

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Offline marklinist5999  
#11 Posted : 04 May 2025 21:09:47(UTC)
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The 6005 is still on the Marklin site and some dealers as no longer available, but at least one description reads it is a switched mode power pack. Some confusion for us.
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Offline mike c  
#12 Posted : 04 May 2025 22:27:00(UTC)
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The original 6005 was not a switched mode supply, but rather a transformer which provided a pair of live and return outputs (Yellow and brown) providing 16VAC which could be used to power a 6021 or accessories, as can be seen here:
https://wiki.3rail.nl/images/b/b7/Marklin_6005.jpg

http://www.digitaltog.dk...n_transformator_6005.pdf

I suspect that this was possibly intended as a power supply for the 6604 Delta Controller, which allowed you to select the 4 available Delta addresses and control the speed and direction of one loco at a time.
The later Delta Control 4f had a built in transformer.


I don't know if there was a 120VAC version of this unit. 6005 was the 230VAC version.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline bph  
#13 Posted : 04 May 2025 23:31:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
The original 6005 was not a switched mode supply, but rather a transformer which provided a pair of live and return outputs (Yellow and brown) providing 16VAC which could be used to power a 6021 or accessories

I don't know if there was a 120VAC version of this unit. 6005 was the 230VAC version.

Regards

Mike C


I believe the 6005 was replaced by 60052 230v and 60055 120v version, all transformers. A visible change was the wiring connections on the 16v side.
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