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osoraku		#1 Posted : 22 January 2025 11:46:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Dear All - Inspired by work by the Locoduino group (this project, in particular), I developed a low-cost WiFi hub based on the Raspberry Pi Pico to route CS2 protocol packets between a controller and a 60116 Gleisbox. (It also has a limited number of feedback channels to detect track occupancy.) I've tested it with Rocrail and JMRI but do not have means to try with other controller software. If anybody has time and/or interest in testing and providing feedback, I'd be grateful. Project description is here on Github. Osoraku Edited by user 30 April 2025 11:57:43(UTC)  | Reason: Tested now with JMRI; mention feedback too.
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patnaik		#2 Posted : 23 January 2025 15:40:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: Maryland, Silver Spring		Originally Posted by: osoraku Dear All - Inspired by work by the Locoduino group (this project, in particular), I developed a low-cost WiFi hub based on the Raspberry Pi Pico to route CS2 protocol packets between a controller and a 60116 Gleisbox. I've tested it with Rocrail but do not have means to try with other controller software. If anybody has time and/or interest in testing and providing feedback, I'd be grateful. Project description is here on Github. Osoraku I am quite interested in this. I would be using JMRI instead of Rocrail. JMRI does understand the CS2 Ethernet protocol, so hopefully should work. I will need some handholding as I have never used this hardware (I am familiar with Arduino). What is the advantage of using the Raspberry Pi Pico vs the ESP32 (which I happen to have on hand) used in the post you linked to? Let me look into ordering parts. Gopal
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osoraku		#3 Posted : 23 January 2025 16:40:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: patnaik I am quite interested in this. I would be using JMRI instead of Rocrail. JMRI does understand the CS2 Ethernet protocol, so hopefully should work. I will need some handholding as I have never used this hardware (I am familiar with Arduino). What is the advantage of using the Raspberry Pi Pico vs the ESP32 (which I happen to have on hand) used in the post you linked to? Let me look into ordering parts. Gopal Dear Gopal - As to Raspberry Pi Pico vs ESP32, it makes no odds (except that the expansion board is for the RPP). The main advantage of this project over the Locoduino one is that you don't have to buy components and build the board yourself - once you get the expansion board, you're good to go: plug in the processor and it has all the necessary connections already built onto it. That reduces the overall cost. Happy to help when you get the parts. Osoraku
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patnaik		#4 Posted : 23 January 2025 19:21:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: Maryland, Silver Spring		Originally Posted by: osoraku Originally Posted by: patnaik I am quite interested in this. I would be using JMRI instead of Rocrail. JMRI does understand the CS2 Ethernet protocol, so hopefully should work. I will need some handholding as I have never used this hardware (I am familiar with Arduino). What is the advantage of using the Raspberry Pi Pico vs the ESP32 (which I happen to have on hand) used in the post you linked to? Let me look into ordering parts. Gopal Dear Gopal - As to Raspberry Pi Pico vs ESP32, it makes no odds (except that the expansion board is for the RPP). The main advantage of this project over the Locoduino one is that you don't have to buy components and build the board yourself - once you get the expansion board, you're good to go: plug in the processor and it has all the necessary connections already built onto it. That reduces the overall cost. Happy to help when you get the parts. Osoraku Osoraku, I can't find the CAN bus shield in the US. I found this, though <https://www.adafruit.com/product/5728> Will it work? Gopal
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xxup		#5 Posted : 23 January 2025 20:57:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		I think that it is this unit -> https://www.joy-it.net/en/products/RB-P-CAN-485 I found it on amazon.co.uk, but it was A$90 shipped to Australia. Ouch!
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osoraku		#6 Posted : 23 January 2025 22:28:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: patnaik Originally Posted by: osoraku Originally Posted by: patnaik I am quite interested in this. I would be using JMRI instead of Rocrail. JMRI does understand the CS2 Ethernet protocol, so hopefully should work. I will need some handholding as I have never used this hardware (I am familiar with Arduino). What is the advantage of using the Raspberry Pi Pico vs the ESP32 (which I happen to have on hand) used in the post you linked to? Let me look into ordering parts. Gopal Dear Gopal - As to Raspberry Pi Pico vs ESP32, it makes no odds (except that the expansion board is for the RPP). The main advantage of this project over the Locoduino one is that you don't have to buy components and build the board yourself - once you get the expansion board, you're good to go: plug in the processor and it has all the necessary connections already built onto it. That reduces the overall cost. Happy to help when you get the parts. Osoraku Osoraku, I can't find the CAN bus shield in the US. I found this, though <https://www.adafruit.com/product/5728> Will it work? Gopal Dear Gopal - Ooof - I'm pretty sure it could be made to work, but you'd need to have headers (20 pin female sockets on each side of that board) to plug the RPP into it. That rather thwarts the low-cost/easy setup character of the project: there would be a lot of soldering to do to install the headers. Any other options available? (I thought that in the US they had everything electronic, and cheap!) Osoraku
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osoraku		#7 Posted : 23 January 2025 22:34:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup I think that it is this unit -> https://www.joy-it.net/en/products/RB-P-CAN-485 I found it on amazon.co.uk, but it was A$90 shipped to Australia. Ouch! Dear xxup - Oh dear. That's the correct board, but why would it cost more in Oz than in Europe? The puzzles of international trade. At that price, it pretty much kills the low-cost nature of the project (unless I'm seriously ignorant of the €-A$ exchange rate). Osoraku
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osoraku		#8 Posted : 23 January 2025 23:00:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		PS - The silkscreen info on my board indicates that it was manufactured in Germany. Hence, an EU supplier might be a good choice. I found a half-dozen non-Amazon EU suppliers on the web. With the caveat that it should work (same CAN chip used, but different pin assignments), in N. America, the Waveshare Pico-CAN-B board seems to be a substitute and costs 17-25 USD. AliExpress also lists some CAN boards with sockets attached for Raspberry Pi Pico like this. Let me know, and we can collaborate; perhaps I can find a similar board locally. Osoraku Edited by user 24 January 2025 18:26:41(UTC)  | Reason: Added other board sources, with caveats
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patnaik		#9 Posted : 25 January 2025 04:36:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: Maryland, Silver Spring		Originally Posted by: osoraku PS - The silkscreen info on my board indicates that it was manufactured in Germany. Hence, an EU supplier might be a good choice. I found a half-dozen non-Amazon EU suppliers on the web. With the caveat that it should work (same CAN chip used, but different pin assignments), in N. America, the Waveshare Pico-CAN-B board seems to be a substitute and costs 17-25 USD. AliExpress also lists some CAN boards with sockets attached for Raspberry Pi Pico like this. Let me know, and we can collaborate; perhaps I can find a similar board locally. Osoraku While looking for CAN boards, I came across this: <https://github.com/KevinOConnor/can2040>. Looks like CAN can be implemented entirely in software on the RPi Pico W which uses the RP2040 microcontroller. Talk about low-cost! Code is in C, not python, but should be possible to interoperate. Probably beyond my capabilities to get it to work though. Gopal
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osoraku		#10 Posted : 19 February 2025 19:47:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup I think that it is this unit -> https://www.joy-it.net/en/products/RB-P-CAN-485 I found it on amazon.co.uk, but it was A$90 shipped to Australia. Ouch! Dear Adrian - The code should also work with a Waveshare Pico-CAN-B board, which I found on the web for AU$29. That board is also available in the US for USD 15 (from various sources). So a relatively cheap solution is still possible; I updated the relevant bits of code to suggest how to configure it for use with that board. With the caveat of still untested, however. Osoraku
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patnaik		#11 Posted : 25 February 2025 20:26:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: Maryland, Silver Spring		I went ahead with the ESP32 based project that you mentioned earlier. Reasons: I know Python even less than I know C++, I had a ESP32 at hand, and because the ESP32 has a CAN controller on board, all I needed was transceiver costing about one dollar. No soldering as I am using a plug in breadboard. Not as neat, but fully functional. Osoraku, thanks for the inspiration and advice. Gopal
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xxup		#12 Posted : 26 February 2025 04:18:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Okay. I have ordered these from Amazon.com.au https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BVZGPS3G <-- Does not use Australia Post, but is the cheapest. https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BW34HFBL They should be here in a week or two. $60 for everything seemed reasonable. I still need to find a 60116.. Cheap hopefully. Edited by user 26 February 2025 08:22:09(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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xxup		#13 Posted : 26 February 2025 04:27:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: osoraku .... With the caveat of still untested, however. Osoraku Testing is my middle name.. Hopefully, it works.
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xxup		#14 Posted : 26 February 2025 08:21:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		I had to cancel one of the orders as they can't ship using Australia Post. Ordered this one instead: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BS9SDN4Q
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osoraku		#15 Posted : 26 February 2025 16:28:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup I had to cancel one of the orders as they can't ship using Australia Post. Ordered this one instead: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BS9SDN4Q Dear Adrian - That looks ok - it is the Waveshare board. Hopefully it has headers to plug the RPP into (I didn't see them in the photo). No Gleisbox?! Osoraku
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xxup		#16 Posted : 26 February 2025 21:14:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		No layout either, but I do have the two new locos that I bought since I moved house (Flying Scotsman and the Swiss Churchill Railcar), and I have seen some bits of track lying in one of the other boxes. There will be enough for a good test. I can get the track box from my local dealer in a few days - it is in stock there.
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patnaik		#17 Posted : 26 February 2025 22:34:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: Maryland, Silver Spring		There is a start set which includes the MS2 controller, track box, power supply and an oval of track. Seemed to be a good buy.
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xxup		#18 Posted : 27 February 2025 03:33:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		I guess that is the question. Does it have to be a 60116 or will any version of the MS2 trackbox work?
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osoraku		#19 Posted : 27 February 2025 09:18:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup I guess that is the question. Does it have to be a 60116 or will any version of the MS2 trackbox work? Dear Adrian - Any Gleisbox that would connect an MS2/CS2/CS3 controller to the track should work. According to this forum link, the 60112, 60113, 60114 and 60116 Gleisboxes work. (They have different max current loads for running HO and 1 gauge locos, but all use the CAN protocol.) Osoraku
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patnaik		#20 Posted : 27 February 2025 13:11:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC) Posts: 39 Location: Maryland, Silver Spring		I found having the MS2 controller hooked up was useful in testing communication. Of course, it is not strictly necessary as a locomotive on the track will do the trick. Gopal
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xxup		#21 Posted : 04 March 2025 04:45:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Pico Pi W has arrived. The Waveboard has left China - Maybe next week for that bit.
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xxup		#22 Posted : 11 March 2025 04:08:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Item number two is here: The waveboard. I have loaded rocrail onto a linux laptop. I just need the MS2 box, which (hopefully) will be here next week. We had a cyclone and that has messed up (delayed) many things - even for those of us who were not in it's direct path.
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osoraku		#23 Posted : 11 March 2025 10:29:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup ... I just need the MS2 box, which (hopefully) will be here next week. We had a cyclone and that has messed up (delayed) many things - even for those of us who were not in it's direct path. Dear Adrian - Great - You don't need an MS2 if you have a Gleisbox, though. I updated the use instructions with what I think will work with the Waveshare CAN board. You can test the basic functionality of the RPP-CAN interface and the Wifi connection to Rocrail without a Gleisbox using the CAN loopback interface. Osoraku
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xxup		#24 Posted : 11 March 2025 20:48:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		I have ordered a Marklin 29000 set, which has the MS2, the box and enough track for testing. My m-track is in storage until I build the shed - hopefully, later this year. When the shed is built and the layout is ready, I will toss the plastic rubbish out the window. I have also ordered a 10 pin mini din plug as I am a bit nervous about sticking small wires into tiny plug socket pins when there is an 18v pin between the earth and CAN High connection. I am keen to find a case for the unit - any thoughts? Anyway, I will start the preliminary testing in a couple of days - I just need to do more reading about rocorail and these pico things. I have lots of old PI's model 2 and 3 mainly, but this is the first pico.
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osoraku		#25 Posted : 11 March 2025 21:31:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup ... I am keen to find a case for the unit - any thoughts? Dear Adrian - The Waveshare board has the same dimensions as the RPP itself, and I think they mate with the USB connector on the RPP and the CAN terminals on the same end. So you need a box to get the wires out at the end. A quick look at offerings on the web turns up the Adafruit Pico W PiCowBell IoT case that seems to have space for your Waveshare board mated to the RPP ... but caveat emptor. Anything that is NOT a metal Faraday cage for your WiFi receiver should serve. Osoraku
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kiwiAlan		#26 Posted : 12 March 2025 12:28:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,455 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: xxup I have also ordered a 10 pin mini din plug as I am a bit nervous about sticking small wires into tiny plug socket pins when there is an 18v pin between the earth and CAN High connection. The best way to get one of these connectors is to get a spare ms2 cable, that way the connector comes pre-wired. The other end has a JST connector on it, but you could cut that off if you want to connect direct into your hardware. For a box, I would look at using a Hammond enclosure, available from RS or Farnell in a range of sizes and colours, I have used the 1555 box before, which would be about the correct size for your boards.
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xxup		#27 Posted : 12 March 2025 21:21:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: osoraku The Waveshare board has the same dimensions as the RPP itself, and I think they mate with the USB connector on the RPP and the CAN terminals on the same end. So you need a box to get the wires out at the end. A quick look at offerings on the web turns up the Adafruit Pico W PiCowBell IoT case that seems to have space for your Waveshare board mated to the RPP ... but caveat emptor. Anything that is NOT a metal Faraday cage for your WiFi receiver should serve. Osoraku That box looks perfect, but it looks like I need a 3D printer to make one. Sadly, it does not look like anyone sells the case. I will explore this as a long term option as I don't have a 3D printer and I am unlikely to buy one in the near future. The entire assembly measures 52mm x 25mm x 25mm. I guess I will use a cardboard box in the short term, while I mull over the business case for a 3D printer that FD will find believable.
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xxup		#28 Posted : 12 March 2025 21:28:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: xxup I have also ordered a 10 pin mini din plug as I am a bit nervous about sticking small wires into tiny plug socket pins when there is an 18v pin between the earth and CAN High connection. The best way to get one of these connectors is to get a spare ms2 cable, that way the connector comes pre-wired. The other end has a JST connector on it, but you could cut that off if you want to connect direct into your hardware. For a box, I would look at using a Hammond enclosure, available from RS or Farnell in a range of sizes and colours, I have used the 1555 box before, which would be about the correct size for your boards. I ended up buying this cable on Amazon -> https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0C6X In case the link dies one day, I will add the detail here: Traovien Mini-DIN 10-Pin Male to Female Audio Cable for TV Receiver Monitor Projector Audio and Video Receiver etc (Mini 10Pin Male to Female 3.3Ft) The Hammond cases look good - there is a 65mm x 65mm that would do the job. I can get these from Element 14, but I need to buy other stuff to make the shipping worthwhile. I guess my cardboard box will have to do until I prove that this concept works for me. Edited by user 13 March 2025 09:06:17(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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osoraku		#29 Posted : 12 March 2025 22:43:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup ... I guess my cardboard box will have to do until I prove that this concept works for me. An empty bog roll & duct tape might serve temporarily; dimensions are about right! Osoraku
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xxup		#30 Posted : 13 March 2025 23:38:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Out of bog rolls at the moment - there is a national toilet paper shortage in Australia. It seems that the Australian response to any disaster (flood, COVID, drought, election and earthquake) is to buy as much toilet paper as you can carry. Never mind food or water, but we must have the toilet paper! The latest disaster was the cyclone that attempted to cross the coast at Queensland - shops were emptied through Queensland - Why? Because the logistical geniuses that run the two major grocery chains in Australia thought it was a brilliant idea to warehouse everything in Melbourne and then use trucks that can't cross flooded roads (the toilet paper might get wet) to ship the stuff up the one highway in Queensland. So will a rolled up banana leaf make a good substitute?
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xxup		#31 Posted : 13 March 2025 23:40:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		On a slightly more serious note. Arrived today. I have started working on the Pico Pi, while I await the last piece, which is the 10pin mini DIN cable. Maybe next week.
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PJMärklin		#32 Posted : 14 March 2025 03:53:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/12/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,258 Location: Hobart, Australia		Originally Posted by: xxup ... It seems that the Australian response to any disaster (flood, COVID, drought, election and earthquake) is to buy as much toilet paper as you can carry. ... Not just in Australia either I recall during the COVID pandemic one HO scenery/figure manufacturer produced a scene of figures fighting over toilet rolls in a supermarket
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xxup		#33 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:10:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Initial test results, when running can_test_intr.py with the waveboard. I changed the following variables: INT_PIN = 21 SPI_CS = 5 SPI_SCK = 6 SPI_MOSI = 7 SPI_MISO = 4 Is the following output correct?: Initialized successfully, polling mode. CAN status reg: 00 (***should be 40 [loopback mode]; ignoring***) 1 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (8 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc de f0 1 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (8 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc de f0 2 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (8 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc de f0 2 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (8 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc de f0 3 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (8 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc de f0 3 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (8 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc de f0 --------------------------------- The LED flashes on the Pico Pi with each line.
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osoraku		#34 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:17:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup Initial test results, when running can_test_intr.py with the waveboard. Is this correct: ... Dear Adrian - Yes, that proves that the Waveshare board works with the RPP. You should test out interrupt mode too, because the train controller program uses it. Osoraku
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xxup		#35 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:18:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		How do I test the interrupt mode? The Test Lab - Ubuntu 24.04.02 LTS running on old Macbook Air.
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osoraku		#36 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:21:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Dear Adrian - Edit the program and change POLL = False at the top. Download it again to the RPP and run it like before. You should see slightly different output that says it is running in interrupt mode. Osoraku
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xxup		#37 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:29:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Latest result: Initialized successfully, interrupt mode. CAN status reg: 00 (***should be 40 [loopback mode]; ignoring***) Interrupt mask is a3 1 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (1 bytes): 12 1 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (1 bytes): 12 2 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (2 bytes): 12 34 2 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (2 bytes): 12 34 3 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (3 bytes): 12 34 56 3 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (3 bytes): 12 34 56 4 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (4 bytes): 12 34 56 78 4 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (4 bytes): 12 34 56 78 5 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (5 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a 5 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (5 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a 6 send normal------------------ CAN id: 0x123 (6 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc 6 send EFF--------------------- CAN id: 0x12345678 (EFF) (6 bytes): 12 34 56 78 9a bc --------------------------------- Is this -> CAN status reg: 00 (***should be 40 [loopback mode]; ignoring***) a problem?
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osoraku		#38 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:35:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup Latest result: ... Dear Adrian - Fantastic. The board is fully functional - once you get it connected to the Gleisbox there will be no (hardware) problems using it. Speedy arrival hopes for your DIN-10 plug. Osoraku PS - the message will not cause trouble with the controller program.
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xxup		#39 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:37:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Thank you for checking this for me. One more question: Is this -> CAN status reg: 00 (***should be 40 [loopback mode]; ignoring***) a problem?
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osoraku		#40 Posted : 14 March 2025 10:39:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Originally Posted by: xxup Thank you for checking this for me. One more question: Is this -> CAN status reg: 00 (***should be 40 [loopback mode]; ignoring***) a problem? Dear Adrian - Not a problem with the controller program. (Rather, a bug in the coder.) Osoraku Edited by user 23 March 2025 11:23:26(UTC)  | Reason: It is a bug, not a feature...
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bobyAndCo		#41 Posted : 20 March 2025 21:11:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2024(UTC) Posts: 20 Location: France - Bretagne		Hello everyone, Are you still interested in RP PI Pico boards with CAN. I've made one with an MCP2515 and can supply the Gerbers and components, but I'll have to dig through my archives. Nice project. Kind regards https://forum.3rails.fr/...passerelle-can-tcp/28552
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osoraku		#42 Posted : 21 March 2025 00:04:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2025(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Setubal, Palmela		Dear Christophe - I'll study your S88 Raspberry Pi pico design - looks very cost effective for 16 feedback channels. And thanks for the original inspiration. Osoraku
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xxup		#43 Posted : 21 March 2025 05:02:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Oh Yes! I love that s88 design. I was just going to use my LDT HSI-S88-USB to inform Rocrail (and hopefully WinDigiPet), but this looks awesome and I would love to test this too. My test track with a siding comprising two turnouts is already here - so I was hoping to test a solution where each train stops at a "station" for a random time, and the second loco is only "released" after the first loco has moved ahead into a vacant block. This is easy to do in WinDigiPet, and I assume that Rocrail will have the same capability. I also plan to add in the signals - I assume that the pico CAN will manage this. I am STILL waiting for the 10-pin mini-DIN cable - it is stuck at Brisbane Airport somewhere.
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kiwiAlan		#44 Posted : 21 March 2025 13:25:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,455 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: xxup I am STILL waiting for the 10-pin mini-DIN cable - it is stuck at Brisbane Airport somewhere. Well, at least they haven't had a substation fire that has taken out the whole airport ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cly24zvvwxlt
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PJMärklin		#45 Posted : 23 March 2025 07:28:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/12/2013(UTC) Posts: 2,258 Location: Hobart, Australia		Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Originally Posted by: xxup ... It seems that the Australian response to any disaster (flood, COVID, drought, election and earthquake) is to buy as much toilet paper as you can carry. ... Not just in Australia either I recall during the COVID pandemic one HO scenery/figure manufacturer produced a scene of figures fighting over toilet rolls in a supermarket It was this unit :
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marklinist5999		#46 Posted : 23 March 2025 12:59:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		Not certain if we even have enough to wipe it all out, up, or down anymore.
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xxup		#47 Posted : 27 March 2025 07:48:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		The cable finally arrived, but FD has a number of social events planned for me. So, I might not be able to finish the testing until next week. When I finish this project, I will have a good look at the s88 project.
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xxup		#48 Posted : 31 March 2025 06:10:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		I have some time this afternoon to progress this one. I have cut the cable to find that all 10 pins are wired and there is even a copper wire to the outer shield. I have documented the wire colours in case someone else buys the same cable from Amazon for this project.
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xxup		#49 Posted : 31 March 2025 06:53:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Now we connect to the WaveShare board. It is very hard for these old eyes to see the tiny writing, but the WaveShare website has this picture posted. Looking at the Green Screw block, we see H (CAN HIGH), L (CAN Low) and G (Ground). The next picture shows the three wires connected to the Waveshare board. Green is to G (Ground) Brown is to L (CAN Low) and Orange is to H (CAN High) Some more testing and then we will plug into the track box and check for any smoke.
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xxup		#50 Posted : 02 April 2025 12:53:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Okay - I need some help here. I am trying to find the two utilities that I need to download. marklin.py and threadsafe.py. I went to this link -> https://github.com/peterhinch/micropython-async to find threadsafe.py, but I can only find: threadsafe_event.py and threadsafe_queue.py in the V3 folder. Where do I find marklin.py?
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