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Offline Incognito  
#1 Posted : 15 January 2025 22:21:05(UTC)
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I recently received a Marklin 4076 passenger car and thought it looks like the Marklin 4050 passenger car. I put them side by side and cannot see a difference. Does anybody know what the difference is? I have several of what I think are 4050 cars.

Alex
Alex
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Offline Michael4  
#2 Posted : 15 January 2025 23:43:16(UTC)
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Try...

https://www.marklin-user.../t44529-SNCF-4050---4076

Or...

4050 was not sold with an interior. Production ended in 1972

4076, which replaced it, came out in 1973 and has an interior. (Well I think that is what Koll's says)

Not one of my favourites, doesn't age that well, hence my questions in the thread linked above.


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Offline Bill L  
#3 Posted : 15 January 2025 23:56:36(UTC)
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In my case, I recall I noticed that when you unscrew the 2 screws on the underside that holds the metal frame to the body shell, the screws fit differently between the 2 cars, and the position of the screw holes had different distance from the track. My recollection is that in one of them, the black metal frame could be placed further into the shell of the body. That is my recollection from 30-40 years ago.
These cars had the initial problem that they warped quite badly, the middle part would be higher up, and the 2 ends would be lower down. Very noticeable.
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Offline 60904  
#4 Posted : 22 January 2025 21:27:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bill L Go to Quoted Post
In my case, I recall I noticed that when you unscrew the 2 screws on the underside that holds the metal frame to the body shell, the screws fit differently between the 2 cars, and the position of the screw holes had different distance from the track. My recollection is that in one of them, the black metal frame could be placed further into the shell of the body. That is my recollection from 30-40 years ago.
These cars had the initial problem that they warped quite badly, the middle part would be higher up, and the 2 ends would be lower down. Very noticeable.


4076 is higher than 4050. You can't mix them in a train. Looks awful.
Best regards
Martin
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Offline ccranium  
#5 Posted : 23 January 2025 05:03:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael4 Go to Quoted Post
Try...

https://www.marklin-user.../t44529-SNCF-4050---4076

Or...

4050 was not sold with an interior. Production ended in 1972

4076, which replaced it, came out in 1973 and has an interior. (Well I think that is what Koll's says)

Not one of my favourites, doesn't age that well, hence my questions in the thread linked above.




The 1974 catalog describes 4076 identically as 1972 describes 4050, except 1974 (for 4076) adds "Interior fittings" in bold (Kolls has "Innineinrichtung" or "Interior design"). The pictures in each sure look identical from the outside. I can't speak to Bill L's comments about screws, though.
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Offline Bill L  
#6 Posted : 23 January 2025 07:38:21(UTC)
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Martin indicates in post #4 that 4076 is higher than 4050. What I tried to mention in Post #3 is that the black frame goes and fits further into the plastic body when screwed and so the body is lower when placed on the track, and it makes it lower looking compared to the other one. Hope I explained it better here.
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