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Offline Evergreen  
#1 Posted : 04 January 2025 17:29:23(UTC)
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Hello!
I recently bought a märklin class 254 electric locomotive (model nr 39991) but I am having trouble connecting it to my mobile station 2. When I put the loco on the track the mfx logo never shows up on the mobile station. I have tried adding the loco by using the “find locomotive” function. When I first did this the loco was registered as DCC-0 but none of the function worked and I could not drive it. I then deleted the loco and tried “find locomotive” again. This time it was not able to find any loco. When I tried the feature a third time it found a loco but this time it was registered as MM2-87. It had less features than “DCC-0” but none of the features worked and I was not able to drive the locomotive again. I then tried deleting the locomotive and using the “find locomotive” feature many times but the results kept being a variation of finding DCC-0, MM2-87 or not finding any loco at all. I can also note that my mobile station has the latest update. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Offline marklinist5999  
#2 Posted : 04 January 2025 17:57:39(UTC)
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Go into the MS2 setup and toggle the MFX protocol on. So you will disable DCC. Remove the Loco first again. If that doean't work, reset the Loco. That should put it back into the mfx
mode.

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Offline Copenhagen  
#3 Posted : 04 January 2025 18:01:54(UTC)
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You only have that locomotive on the track when trying to register it and not other locomotives? (it's a long time since I have registered a locomotive with an MS2). Try and shut all power off. Put the locomotive securely on the track and power up the Mobile Station and press the Stop button to get power to the track... and then wait and see. If nothing happens after some time try and push the loco gently an bit back and forth to see if it is a connection problem to the tracks. I'm sure you haven't turned mfx off in the MS2 because your other locomotive runs fine with mfx... Is the locomotive bought new from a dealer or is it used?
Offline Evergreen  
#4 Posted : 04 January 2025 18:10:29(UTC)
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I could try doing all of tips you guys mentioned and see if that fixes the problem. I can report back when I have done that. The loco is new and it was the only thing on the track when I tried connecting it. Could it be a problem with the decoder in the loco? I am new to this stuff so I am not very knowledgeable about it.
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Offline rhfil  
#5 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:25:13(UTC)
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What software level is your MS2?
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Offline Evergreen  
#6 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:26:44(UTC)
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I have now tried doing the things you guys mentioned but the loco still will not register. The mobile station was set to mfx, dcc and mm2. I switched it over to be mfx only but that did not help. Marklinist you said that I could reset the loco, how do I do that?
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Offline Evergreen  
#7 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:28:19(UTC)
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The mobile station is in version 4.1
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Offline Goofy  
#8 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:33:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Go into the MS2 setup and toggle the MFX protocol on. So you will disable DCC. Remove the Loco first again. If that doean't work, reset the Loco. That should put it back into the mfx
mode.



That is not working!
TS cannot find the correct adress and to reset loco you must first accept loco to the MS2 via mfx or DCC protocol by register into MS2.
To reset is not possible if loco are not accept yet in the MS2.

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DCC = Digital Command Control
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Offline Goofy  
#9 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:35:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
I have now tried doing the things you guys mentioned but the loco still will not register. The mobile station was set to mfx, dcc and mm2. I switched it over to be mfx only but that did not help. Marklinist you said that I could reset the loco, how do I do that?


Check inside of the locomotive to see if the decoder are connect in the schnittstelle.
Could be decoder not insert correct.

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DCC = Digital Command Control
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Offline Evergreen  
#10 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:36:06(UTC)
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I have put my mobile station back to mfx, dcc and mm2. It found the loco as mm2-87. What do I need to do to reset it?
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Offline Copenhagen  
#11 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:38:19(UTC)
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If you can't register it, it will be difficult to reset it (or impossible).
If it is registered in mfx it can be reset from the menu. If it is registered in in DCC (like with the standard adress 3... which shouldn't be kept) then it can be reset (in the locomotive settings) by writing the value 8 into CV 8.

I don't suppose that you have bought it from a shop nearby, so that they can help you?
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Offline Copenhagen  
#12 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:39:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
I have put my mobile station back to mfx, dcc and mm2. It found the loco as mm2-87. What do I need to do to reset it?


Maybe you can reset it from the locomotive settings menu? (From where you edit the locomotive).
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Offline Evergreen  
#13 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:46:29(UTC)
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The thing is that I bought this locomotive from amazon. It was the last one in stock and I managed to buy for half of its retail price. I just assumed that the support I would get from amazon regarding these kinds of issues would not be very helpful and since this was the last one in stock I can't get a replacement... I just pressed the reset option in the locomtoive settings menu. When I deleted the loco and tried finding a new one mfx still did not work. When I used "find locomtive" I found MM2-88 (so it is at least different from the last time..) but it still does not work.
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Offline Goofy  
#14 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:49:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
I have put my mobile station back to mfx, dcc and mm2. It found the loco as mm2-87. What do I need to do to reset it?


Press shift+key locomotive selection
Press Program CV
Go to adress CV8 and press
Change write 8 in value and press
Your loco are now reset to factory standard

Attention!!!
Only one loco stand alone on the track and all other accessories (m83/m84 or digital signals) must not be connecting.
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Offline Evergreen  
#15 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:50:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
I have now tried doing the things you guys mentioned but the loco still will not register. The mobile station was set to mfx, dcc and mm2. I switched it over to be mfx only but that did not help. Marklinist you said that I could reset the loco, how do I do that?


Check inside of the locomotive to see if the decoder are connect in the schnittstelle.
Could be decoder not insert correct.



What should I look for? I have never opened I locomotive before, I am new to this.


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Offline Evergreen  
#16 Posted : 04 January 2025 21:53:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
I have put my mobile station back to mfx, dcc and mm2. It found the loco as mm2-87. What do I need to do to reset it?


Press shift+key locomotive selection
Press Program CV
Go to adress CV8 and press
Change write 8 in value and press
Your loco are now reset to factory standard

Attention!!!
Only one loco stand alone on the track and all other accessories (m83/m84 or digital signals) must not be connecting.


I will try it out!
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Offline Goofy  
#17 Posted : 04 January 2025 22:02:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Evergreen Go to Quoted Post
I have now tried doing the things you guys mentioned but the loco still will not register. The mobile station was set to mfx, dcc and mm2. I switched it over to be mfx only but that did not help. Marklinist you said that I could reset the loco, how do I do that?


Check inside of the locomotive to see if the decoder are connect in the schnittstelle.
Could be decoder not insert correct.



What should I look for? I have never opened I locomotive before, I am new to this.




If you have already found MM2 adress then in case you do not need to open the loco body.
If you are unsure there are Märklin homepage:
www.maerklin.de

Edited by user 05 January 2025 08:28:39(UTC)  | Reason: correct homepage

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Offline Evergreen  
#18 Posted : 04 January 2025 22:12:37(UTC)
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I did the reset with the CV thing and then I deleted the registered locomotive. Mfx still does not work. I can now find the locomotive as MM2-173 (don't know if that means anything). After I reseted the locomotive it will only show up as MM2 and not DCC. When I try pushing the locomotive lightly the wheels were the motor is will not turn, could that indicate something? Is there something you maybe need to do with a new locomotive that I have not done (I am just speculating but is there any thing you maybe need to remove before using the locomotive)? Or is it possible to register the locomtive manually? I am just trying to think of things that might help.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#19 Posted : 04 January 2025 22:37:42(UTC)
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Is there a model train shop near you. If you are a good customer they may be willing to help you. Or maybe you can find a Märklin hobbyist near you that can help you? Maybe via a Swedish model train forum or a facebook group?
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Offline mike c  
#20 Posted : 04 January 2025 22:47:14(UTC)
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Have you tried running the locomotive on an analog test track and then putting it back on the digital track for recognition?

Did you try adding the model from the database? If it is not yet included, you might get better results with updating your MS.

Make sure that the locomotive is the only one on the track when trying to recognize.

I have sometimes had unexplained failures detecting mfx locomotives. I find that this occurs when the 10 slots on the MS are occupied.
If you delete a locomotive from the quick list, it might register the new one in it's place.

You can submit your question to digital(at)Marklin.com and see what Rick and Curtis have to say

Regards

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Offline Evergreen  
#21 Posted : 04 January 2025 22:54:07(UTC)
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Unfortunately there is no hobby shop nearby and this is my first new model. I have just started with model trains and I don't know anyone that is into this stuff. But I can certainly look if there is any model train group nearby.
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Offline Evergreen  
#22 Posted : 04 January 2025 22:58:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
Have you tried running the locomotive on an analog test track and then putting it back on the digital track for recognition?

Did you try adding the model from the database? If it is not yet included, you might get better results with updating your MS.

Make sure that the locomotive is the only one on the track when trying to recognize.

I have sometimes had unexplained failures detecting mfx locomotives. I find that this occurs when the 10 slots on the MS are occupied.
If you delete a locomotive from the quick list, it might register the new one in it's place.

You can submit your question to digital(at)Marklin.com and see what Rick and Curtis have to say

Regards

Mike C


I have not tried testing the train on a analog test track. I could do that, my father has a old analog märklin train which was the main reason why I wanted to get into the hobby. Would my locomotive work on analog? I can not find the locomotive in the database. I think I have the latest version of the software (4.1). I only have one other train registered on my MS and this locomotive is the only locomotive on the track when I try connecting the it to the mobile station. Regarding submitting question to "digital(at)Marklin.com", is that a email adress?
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Offline marklinist5999  
#23 Posted : 04 January 2025 23:16:16(UTC)
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Yes, that is the email address for the digital club. Rick Sinclair is the digital consultant and repair guy in the USA. Curtis Jueng is also a consultant.
The Marklin German address is marklin.de. They will likely take longer to reply.
Everyone, please verify that Goofy is correct about the decoder position. I had to remove the decoder in my Vectron to reattach a cardan shaft and I plugged it back on upside down. The loco. Did nothing. Two of the end pin ports are dummies but it looks like the decoder lines up on the board pins.
Offline David Dewar  
#24 Posted : 04 January 2025 23:34:51(UTC)
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You say you bought from Amazon at half price. I would return it for a full refund. Also there should a a warranty card with the loco and it can be returned to Marklin but it will be a while berfore returned to you.
For me it wouold be a refund from Amazon.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline rhfil  
#25 Posted : 05 January 2025 00:05:25(UTC)
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In some instances Amazon is just a central listing site for retail vendors. It is really odd that it was sold at half price. That is a huge price cut. Seems a bit odd.
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Offline Goofy  
#26 Posted : 05 January 2025 08:30:12(UTC)
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In some instances Amazon is just a central listing site for retail vendors. It is really odd that it was sold at half price. That is a huge price cut. Seems a bit odd.


Agree! Mad

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Offline Goofy  
#27 Posted : 05 January 2025 08:52:14(UTC)
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If i think right it seems that TS doesn´t have manual of the locomotive 39991?
www.maerklin.de/de/produkte/details/article/39991
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Offline Evergreen  
#28 Posted : 05 January 2025 14:47:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
In some instances Amazon is just a central listing site for retail vendors. It is really odd that it was sold at half price. That is a huge price cut. Seems a bit odd.


I agree that it does seem to be "to good to be true". The locomotive was sold directly by amazon and not by a third party seller and there was no discount on it, it was just listed for half of what it usually sells for.

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Offline rhfil  
#29 Posted : 05 January 2025 16:41:10(UTC)
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Find someone nearby with a CS3. I would even make a pilgrimage to Marklin of Sweden wherever he has moved to.
Offline Evergreen  
#30 Posted : 05 January 2025 18:05:12(UTC)
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Find someone nearby with a CS3. I would even make a pilgrimage to Marklin of Sweden wherever he has moved to.


What can you do with a CS3? I am new to this…
Offline Copenhagen  
#31 Posted : 05 January 2025 18:48:18(UTC)
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The CS3 (Control Station 3) has a better graphical user interface, more like a tablet (or an iPad) with touchscreen and all. But I'm pretty sure that it won't make any difference. The only advantage could be if your faulty locomotive was tested on another layout with another control station (MS2 or CS3) to see if something worked differently than at your place with your device and track. An MS2 is fully capable of registering any locomotive as well as a CS3. Sometimes it's even recommended to use a Mobile Station when programming something.

The fact that your other train set, the Rheingold, runs perfectly indicates that your MS2 works as it should and that the problem is with the new locomotive.
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Offline rhfil  
#32 Posted : 05 January 2025 20:24:27(UTC)
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There are at least two advantages of the CS3. The first one is the ability to do a factory reset which would restore the loco to its original settings. The second is the ability to read the entire decoder with all of its address settings. And reset any which are wrong. That would determine what the mfx handshake address is and what the dcc address is and reset them if necessary. And it has the ability to do factory updates.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#33 Posted : 05 January 2025 20:58:22(UTC)
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The MS2 can also do a factory reset just as well. It's on page 19 of the manual:
https://static.maerklin....68457075f81702905927.pdf
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Offline Evergreen  
#34 Posted : 05 January 2025 22:06:22(UTC)
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Is the CS3 able to do a different factory reset than the reset I did on my MS2? Or are they the same?
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Offline Copenhagen  
#35 Posted : 05 January 2025 22:26:05(UTC)
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Is the CS3 able to do a different factory reset than the reset I did on my MS2? Or are they the same?


If you can't access the decoder in the locomotive (and thereby get it registered correctly) a CS3 won't make any difference. Apart from that it isn't a bad idea to have it tested by someone else if possible.

By the way: did you do a factory reset of the locomotive and not just a delete from the list in the MS2?
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Offline Copenhagen  
#36 Posted : 05 January 2025 22:36:09(UTC)
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... and then there is the option of taking the decoder out and get it tested with the marklin decoder tool (connected to a computer). I guess a new decoder can be installed with the correct file for the locomotive if the decoder is faulty. This is not something I have dealt with.
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Offline rhfil  
#37 Posted : 05 January 2025 23:02:27(UTC)
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I am not sure exactly where the information for the factory reset is found. If it is the decoder setting when first registered then it might be wrong. That is why an update might correct it and reading the information on the decoder is necessary. I received a new Marklikn loco which was a steamer but was making the sounds of a diesel. It was exchanged for a new one.
Offline mike c  
#38 Posted : 06 January 2025 05:07:44(UTC)
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I did a little of a deep dive

This is what I found:

Recognition of the mode of operation: automatic.
• Mfx technology for the Mobile Station / Central Station.
Name set at the factory: 254106-8 DR-DDR
• Address set at the factory: MM 18 (19) / DCC 03

https://static.maerklin....8b06b24fb51662355876.pdf

First thing that I would recommend is to delete any registers that have shown up for this locomotive as MM
If you only have one other locomotive, it might be worthwhile to delete all saved registers and start from zero.

Take two straight track sections and connect to your MS2. Set the MS2 to recognize Mfx, DCC and MM in that order
Try to see whether it detects the locomotive. If it does not detect MFX, or DCC
Manually create a register for a locomotive with DCC address 03. See if the locomotive responds to commands
You can also manually create a register for a locomotive with a MM address of 18 and see if it responds to commands

My recommendation of putting the locomotive on an analog track still stands to see whether the locomotive works.

DO NOT REMOVE THE DECODER.

To test the motor and functions, you can connect a 9V battery to the slider and one wheel to see if the locomotive responds.
This should have the same result of putting the loco in analog mode. It should hopefully register properly when put back on the digital test track as described above

In addition to my MS2s, I also have an older 6021 (MM only), analog transformers and my ESU Lokprogrammer.
I can't use the Lokprogrammer to change much on the new Maerklin decoders, but I can use the test features to check on all functions by DCC or MM address.

Regards

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Offline Goofy  
#39 Posted : 06 January 2025 10:49:23(UTC)
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TS did verified an adress MM2-87 and later another adress but still MM2.
Is it possible that TS needs adress CV 50 first by change protocol to mfx?
It seems mfx protocol are disabled at CV 50.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#40 Posted : 06 January 2025 11:45:14(UTC)
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Don't forget that these addresses found by "find" never worked.
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Offline Evergreen  
#41 Posted : 06 January 2025 19:04:38(UTC)
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The way I have been trying to troubleshoot this issue after I first realized that the locomotive is not working as it is supposed to is by connecting 2 pieces of track to my MS and putting the locomotive on the track. I can describe how I reseted the locomotive. First I tried resetting it by going to the locomotive options menu and choosing reset. I then also tried doing it by going to the locomotive options menu and choosing “program CV”. Then I set the CV address to 8 and after I did that I needed to put in a value again and the value I put in in the second step was also 8. I can also clarify that I have no clue what a CV value is and what it does. After I reseted the locomotive the “find locomotive” option only found the locomotive as MM2 and not DCC as it sometimes did before I reseted it (don’t know if that implies anything). I have now also tried connecting the locomotive manually. Regardless of how I connected the locomotive the one thing that has stayed the same is that nothing works. None of the functions are usable and the locomotive is not able to drive.

I also tried to use it on an analog track and tried putting a 9v battery under the locomotive. The locomotive was still not able to drive. Could it be that the bogey is disconnected from the decoder or motor in some way (just speculation on my part)? I did not quite understand what I am supposed to do with CV50, feel free to clarify. I also recently noticed that you can thank people's post on this site, I am sorry that I did not do that earlier. Nevertheless I must thank everyone that has tried to help!
Offline Goofy  
#42 Posted : 06 January 2025 19:49:35(UTC)
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You have probably fault with the decoder in the locomotive.

By the way...i did visit amazon and my suggest and a good tip: STAY AWAY FROM THE AMAZON! Cursing
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#43 Posted : 06 January 2025 19:57:27(UTC)
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"I also tried to use it on an analog track and tried putting a 9v battery under the locomotive. The locomotive was still not able to drive" If you connect a 9v battery to the slider and the outside wheels the motor should run. If it does not there is either something wrong with the wiring or the motor. Essentially that is powering the motor directly.
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Offline Evergreen  
#44 Posted : 06 January 2025 20:18:40(UTC)
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That is unfortunate... In that case I guess I have to return it.
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Offline David Dewar  
#45 Posted : 06 January 2025 20:55:16(UTC)
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That is unfortunate... In that case I guess I have to return it.



I did say above that you should return the loco to Amazon for a full refund. I presume sold by Amazon and not a third party retailer. There will also be a warranty leaflet with the loco for return to Marklin. Anything sold at half price is in my view not good unless there is a good reason for it explained by the retailer.
I do apprciate it is most upsetting when a new item does not work.




Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#46 Posted : 06 January 2025 21:10:30(UTC)
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It is unfortunate that your start in the model railway hobby has been so troublesome. We can have lots of problems even when things are working as they should but these problems are usually fixable. Since this locomotive has mfx and everything works with your other mfx train set there shouldn't be any doubt that the fault is within the new locomotive.
It's not that important to use the thank/like button, so don't be sorry about that.

If you at any time get a dcc locomotive (without mfx) then don't use the 'find" function but register the locomotive manually starting with the address 3. It takes some time getting all things in place if it has many functions, and when it's done and everything is working you change the locomotive's address to something else than 3. (Look in the manual to make sure).
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#47 Posted : 06 January 2025 22:17:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
"I also tried to use it on an analog track and tried putting a 9v battery under the locomotive. The locomotive was still not able to drive" If you connect a 9v battery to the slider and the outside wheels the motor should run.
Not if DC is disabled in the decoder.
Märklin braking modules supply DC to the locos to have the loco brake down.

To test the motor, take out the decoder and feed DC from the 9 V battery directly to the two motor poles.
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#48 Posted : 06 January 2025 22:19:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Go to Quoted Post
Don't forget that these addresses found by "find" never worked.
Sometimes they do work. In my experience, DCC addresses are more likely to work than MM addresses.

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#49 Posted : 06 January 2025 22:56:40(UTC)
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I did try connecting the locomotive through DCC manually but it still did not work. I also tried to run the locomotive on a analog track. Doesn’t that test the same thing as the 9v battery would?
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#50 Posted : 06 January 2025 22:58:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Go to Quoted Post
Don't forget that these addresses found by "find" never worked.
Sometimes they do work. In my experience, DCC addresses are more likely to work than MM addresses.



Sure, but in this specific case nothing has worked. It could be a simple problem like a lose connection/ a wire that has broken or slipped off or something with the decoder. It would have to be inspected by opening the locomotive and examining it. But is it worth doing this instead of returning it before it's too late? It would be a different thing if the locomotive was bought from an actual model train shop.
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