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Offline Brakepad  
#1 Posted : 23 March 2009 00:52:31(UTC)
Brakepad

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Hi,

Bought from ebay (another) blown up 3048 in box. Did not expect much from it, but sometimes I get myself these kind of models just to see how difficult may be to convert them in perfect runners again.

I tested it when it arrived. Other than its poor appearance, as expected, it had a very rough running (not a single drop of oil or grease on it in many years), but it also shown some kind of jerky running, slow down-accelerate, slow down-accelerate...it seemed to have some mechanical issue/s. As I was quite busy at the time, I left the poor thing somewhere. At least, it could move by itself!

Today I've found some time and I've checked it. After removing the shell, what I see makes me think that somebody has got himself a couple of these 3048s, has dissassembled them and then:

1-re-assembled one with the best parts of both. (this one is not the one I've received).

2-re-assembled another with the worst parts of both (and yes, this is the one I've got).

I've dissassembled the motor, the reverse unit and the bulb holder and have sprayed some degreasing fluid on it, to check if the "hard point" went away. No success.

So I've started dissassembling it completely.

That's what I've got:

A bent cabin roof in a dirty, rusty and peeled off early body (which also has some bent handrails :D ):
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Haven't tested the smoke unit yet but having seen the rest of the loco, don't expect it can work:
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Very nice slider:
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Missing oil foam in chassis and in motor cover:
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I guess these wheels have many km on them...the yellowish appearance is wear:
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Well, after complete dissassembly and some cleaning, what I had was this:
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Fortunately these ones are quite well engineered...there are sleeves on the axles, and regardless of use, axles and metal gears were in quite good condition. Intermediate gears are made from nylon, what seems quite strange. I've overhauled another 3048 which was a later model and that one had metal intermediate gears.

A close looking to the nylon gears showed the problem:

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(notice two bent teeth on the first gear)

So now there's some solution to be found to be explained...tomorrow.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline intruder  
#2 Posted : 23 March 2009 01:17:30(UTC)
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Nice report, brakepad.

I trust that you have seen this already:
http://www.maerklin.de/service/...r.php?artikelnummer=3048

Good luck with the overhauling.
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline Darren W  
#3 Posted : 23 March 2009 03:54:56(UTC)
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How did you get the drive wheel axles apart? I have looked at my models and they seem press fit and I am afraid to damage them by pulling them apart.

Thanks
Darren
Offline Brakepad  
#4 Posted : 23 March 2009 08:26:40(UTC)
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Hi Darren,

Actually they should be press fit (don't know if they actually are, but I think so), but, so far, when I've needed to disassemble axles, I've only had to pull moderately...there's some need to "control" the pulling force if you do not want that he pulled wheel starts flying when disassembled.

Ok, slight update as per today:

After having seen what the problem was, the solution was quite obvious: get a new gear. However, this part is not available at the Märklin website, and, in any case, waiting until my local dealer got this part (if they were able to find it) would mean to have this loco in parts around, and that's what I do not want.

I was not very confident that the sprocket could be re-used. However, I tried to correct the bent teeth. Unfortunately 2 out of 4 (actually there are 4 bent teeth, not 2) had a crack on them and when tried to straighten them, I got a nice step on their surface. So there's no hope for this poor sprocket.

What to do now?

Well, many actual steamers from Märklin have no sprockets. They rely on connecting rods to keep the axle timing, isn't it?

Let's see if this oldie can deal with that.

The damaged gear was the one between the 2nd & 3rd axle. I think that if i use the "good" sprocket between the 2nd & 3rd axle so I can keep the connecting rod aligned, the 1st axle can be guided by the connecting rod instead of the sprocket. Let's see:

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Hmmm...it works so far. No hard point, and 1st axle gives no trouble either...it moves smoothly along the track when pushed. I have to leave it that way for now. Will check this afternoon of tomorrow with the other rods and the motor after a deep cleaning of these parts.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline Oscar  
#5 Posted : 23 March 2009 09:10:14(UTC)
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<font face="Verdana]Great report! Looking forward to the rest of it!</font id="Verdana]
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 23 March 2009 09:54:39(UTC)
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Great topic Brakepad, thanks for your report. I notice ETS have a 3048 without tender for sale in their 2nd hand items for 55 euro, if you needed a source of spare parts.

http://www.modelleisenbahn.com/second/

Search for item 101392 - 3048.3
Offline Caplin  
#7 Posted : 23 March 2009 13:23:35(UTC)
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<br /><font face="Verdana][size=2]Great report! Looking forward to the rest of it!
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Me too. I find it quite exiting to go that deep into a model. Cool
Regards,
Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL

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Offline hemau  
#8 Posted : 23 March 2009 23:59:35(UTC)
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Quote:
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What to do now?

Well, many actual steamers from Märklin have no sprockets. They rely on connecting rods to keep the axle timing, isn't it?

Let's see if this oldie can deal with that.

The damaged gear was the one between the 2nd & 3rd axle. I think that if i use the "good" sprocket between the 2nd & 3rd axle so I can keep the connecting rod aligned, the 1st axle can be guided by the connecting rod instead of the sprocket.

What you have to look after is that - looking at the pictures - the connecting rod has a large slack where it connects to the wheels. So the front axle might be driven with irregularity. I don't know if this would be a problem but it is a point of interest.
Regards, Henk.
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Offline pa-pauls  
#9 Posted : 24 March 2009 00:28:27(UTC)
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Great work Brakepad Smile

I've found the part you miss, just look here :
http://www.bahnhoefle.de...howdsearch20318:11000100!0,5145003760,203180
Pål Paulsen
Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
Offline Brakepad  
#10 Posted : 24 March 2009 08:34:54(UTC)
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Hi,

Many thanks for your comments! Nice to find you are interested. Nice to find also that part is available, but I think that shipping will cost far more than part. Don't mind, I have to request some other spares also.

Yesterday I had almost no time, but I have uploaded a video with a "free rolling test":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ln-oNT6ljs

Hopefully this afternoon I'll be able to continue with this one.

Best regards.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline Brakepad  
#11 Posted : 24 March 2009 21:42:07(UTC)
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I'm actually cleaning the motor. Before I've just assembled the complete rod system, which had some issues. After deep cleaning and light oiling, I had to straighten the main rod which goes from the cylinder to the 2nd axle in one side (don't know its name in english if there's any), because it was bent outwards and got stuck when the nut was tightened. With all rods assembled, the axles did not turn smoothly.

After some work it seems that running gear is OK and awaiting the motor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9JXlVHYr_c

BTW: Is there a way to embed videos in this forum?
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline intruder  
#12 Posted : 24 March 2009 21:53:05(UTC)
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Nice to see your progress, Brakepad.

As far as I can see:
The rod from the piston (or actually the crosshead) to the axel is a connecting rod (as on a car, from the piston to the crankshaft), the rod connecting the wheels is a coupling rod.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_locomotive, scroll down the page.
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_locomotive_components
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline river6109  
#13 Posted : 25 March 2009 01:54:37(UTC)
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Brakepad,
Your picture of the drivingwheels shows the first or last drivingwheel is out of line.
The rod should have the slack on the same side and not the opposite side (screw hole).
To find other sprokewheels, there is a company in germany : Ritter restorations, they would have these spare parts on hand.
I'll come back to you regarding converting it into digital.

regards.,
John
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Offline Brakepad  
#14 Posted : 25 March 2009 08:33:14(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109
<br />Brakepad,
Your picture of the drivingwheels shows the first or last drivingwheel is out of line.
The rod should have the slack on the same side and not the opposite side (screw hole).
To find other sprokewheels, there is a company in germany : Ritter restorations, they would have these spare parts on hand.
I'll come back to you regarding converting it into digital.

regards.,
John


John,

You're right about the drivingwheels being out of line (actually, is the 1st axle the one which is out of line). But this can not be avoided as the 1st sprocket is missing. This was the irregularity Henk was referring to, I think, and what I try to check is if loco keeps functionality even without sprocket. So far, it does.

As connecting rods in this model were not intended to be functional, clearance in screw holes are much bigger than in actual models where the connecting rods have been designed to do this function. Actually, if the sprocket was in place, timing would not be perfect, either, but the alignment would be better.

In following pictures you can see the "free turn" that can have the 1st axle in relation to the other ones, the 3rd axle being prevented to turn by the motor.

The first picture would be the one you could get when the locomotive was moving forward, while the 2nd would be the one to get when the locomotive was moving rearwards. The slack would change sides depending on if the conecting rod was in the upper or in the lower half of the wheel (as it is subject to compression/traction stress). Not only that, but have in mind that the connecting rod in the opposite side is helping also- This rod is defered by 90º in relation to the one in the pictures, what helps when this one is aligned whit the wheel centres (in spanish we say the rod is in "punto muerto" what means that it can not transmit any traction/compression effort).

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Hope to be able to finish with the motor and show some pictures this afternoon.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline Brakepad  
#15 Posted : 25 March 2009 21:28:32(UTC)
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OK, let's go ahead...

Rotor and motor cover were quite dirty:

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After some cleaning, everything looks much better:

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So we can start from what we had, chassis+running gear:

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Step 1. Rotor&stator in place after cleaning:

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Step 2. Motor cover+2 bolts slightly tightened

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Ready to fit two foam cuttings from a scrubber in place:

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Foam fitted:

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Next stage: brushes, reverse unit, some oil, & 1st running tests "by herself".
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline steventrain  
#16 Posted : 25 March 2009 22:30:23(UTC)
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Good process, Keep posted.Smile
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Offline Brakepad  
#17 Posted : 26 March 2009 00:24:16(UTC)
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As I do not have a new set of brushes, must refit the existing ones for now:

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Reverse unit has been replaced as existing one did not work properly (fortunately I keep many reverse unit from previous digital conversions):

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The contact plate has been welded and slider cleaned &refitted. Before I purchased it, this locomotive must have been modified (perhaps converted to digital and re-converted to analog for selling purposes). There's no contact plate for smoke unit, and isolating plate for bulb&smoke unit has been cut. Following picture shows bulb&bulb holder parts before refitting:

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Prior to welding bulb holder wire:

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Front truck parts, already clean &oiled:

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Front truck assembly ready to fit:

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Reverse unit, bulb holder, bulb & front truck fitted:

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Chassis is complete:

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Here we go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1MC-5wNgao

Success! Alive again and smooth as silk.

Next step: body & tender. But I'm happy today.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline davemr  
#18 Posted : 26 March 2009 00:38:13(UTC)
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Many thanks for great pictures. Look forward to seeing the finished job.
davemr
Offline intruder  
#19 Posted : 26 March 2009 00:40:03(UTC)
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Great, Brakepad!
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline Pianne  
#20 Posted : 26 March 2009 13:35:43(UTC)
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Great job, Brakepad!
I really enjoyed reading this thread. Are you planning to repaint the loco?
Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan
Bruges, Belgium.
Offline Caplin  
#21 Posted : 26 March 2009 17:28:39(UTC)
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Indeed great work, Brakepad.

I bet you got this satisfaction feeling when you saw it run. biggrin

I also enjoyed following your work.
Regards,
Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL

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Offline steventrain  
#22 Posted : 26 March 2009 19:02:56(UTC)
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Excellent work!
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Offline Brakepad  
#23 Posted : 26 March 2009 22:22:39(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Pianne
<br />Great job, Brakepad!
I really enjoyed reading this thread. Are you planning to repaint the loco?


Hi,

I am not sure about repainting the loco. At some point I was sure I would. Now, having dissassembled the smoke unit so I have had the chance to deep clean the shell, It of course shows its age (& the fact it has been quite a lot mistreated). But it's appearance is still acceptable. For now, I'll assemble "as is", but in the near future I expect to strip paint off the shell (also for the cylinders & wind plates) and repaint it. Meanwhile I'll have to get a working smoke unit and manufacture the part which holds the smoke unit in place (a sort of chimney insert, which is broken).

These are the pictures of the shell before cleaning:

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And these ones, after:

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Next episode: Tender.

check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline sudibarba  
#24 Posted : 26 March 2009 22:36:29(UTC)
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I see you are missing the chimney (Kamin - part #21 563)in the exploded drawing. This was a separately applied part that one of my 3048s is also missing. I suspect people pulled them off when they were trying to get the smoke unit out and lost them eventually.
Not available at Marklin. If you find a source please let me know as I would like to get one otherwise I will have to fabricate something or run without.
Eric
Offline Brakepad  
#25 Posted : 26 March 2009 22:49:35(UTC)
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Eric,

The part is not missing, I still have it, but it has a small bit in the upper side which is broken. I do not have a source for this part, but will ask a friend of mine to machine a part from inox steel.

Will post some pictures later.

Best regards.

check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline Oscar  
#26 Posted : 27 March 2009 08:23:10(UTC)
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<font face="Verdana]Great work!! Smile</font id="Verdana]
Offline sudibarba  
#27 Posted : 27 March 2009 14:46:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Brakepad
<br />Eric,

The part is not missing, I still have it, but it has a small bit in the upper side which is broken. I do not have a source for this part, but will ask a friend of mine to machine a part from inox steel.

Will post some pictures later.

Best regards.

I'll probably have to do the same.
Eric

Offline orubias  
#28 Posted : 27 March 2009 15:35:53(UTC)
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Hi, Brakepad, seriously think about painting and weathering that model, that paint really looks in bad shape. It can be a step forward in your great job. And maybe a new challenge for your skills!

The result of all the work is worth the effort.

Band on the run
Offline Brakepad  
#29 Posted : 27 March 2009 19:09:15(UTC)
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Hi,

Many thanks for your comments that are much appreciated.

I think this is the last update for now as if I repaint the loco I'll have to wait until summer. In the meantime it would be helpful if I could get some advice about the best way to strip paint as I should repaint not only the shell but also the wind plates and the cylinders (the wheels would be a plus but I believe it to be quite difficult...any ideas?).

For the tender here it is, prior to reassembly. No secrets here.

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Two ladders are broken and I was thinking about cutting them all, get the surface leveled and replace them by some metal ladders. I should first find these ones, though.

And for now this is the final result:

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Not the best looking 3048 ever, but working now like a swiss clock.

Best regards.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline DaleSchultz  
#30 Posted : 27 March 2009 19:33:29(UTC)
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great stuff! I never knew the chimney was separate! (perhaps mine was a later version)
My 3048 conversion to digital shows how I separated the light from the smoke unit
http://layout.mixmox.com...stalling_digital_decoder
and in it natural habitat.. http://layout.mixmox.com/1/engine_yard2

Dale
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Offline RayF  
#31 Posted : 27 March 2009 20:28:33(UTC)
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I think it looks great as it is. I would not strip the paint off and repaint it.

If anything, re-touch the red edges, and maybe wherever the black paint has worn through to the bare metal.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck, and congratulations on such a lovely old lady!

Ray
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Offline sudibarba  
#32 Posted : 27 March 2009 22:01:30(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />I think it looks great as it is. I would not strip the paint off and repaint it.

If anything, re-touch the red edges, and maybe wherever the black paint has worn through to the bare metal.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck, and congratulations on such a lovely old lady!

Ray


Funny how this works sometimes. I don't weather new items and was in the minority when suggesting tha Monster should not weather his Big Boy. My "naturally weathered" 3048s and other older loks are not going to be repainted - My new ones will weather naturally also - of course I will never see them in their advanced age.
I would not repaint either unless its a lot worse than appears.
Eric
Offline Brakepad  
#33 Posted : 29 March 2009 13:45:05(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DaleSchultz
<br />great stuff! I never knew the chimney was separate! (perhaps mine was a later version)
My 3048 conversion to digital shows how I separated the light from the smoke unit
http://layout.mixmox.com...stalling_digital_decoder
and in it natural habitat.. http://layout.mixmox.com/1/engine_yard2




Dale, I do think that chimney is a separate insert for all versions, as the casting process would not allow to get that part burr-free in the main casting with the required tolerances to insert the smoke unit. I own four of these models (2 "early" Märklin, 1 "later" Märklin, and a 3193 Primex versions), and all of them have this part as a separate insert. It seems, however, that the Primex insert is made from a different material, perhaps due to the fact that the Primex did not have the smoke unit fitted as a standard.

Your 3048 conversion to digital was a great help for me in the past, I even remember having sent you an email requesting some additional info on the smoke unit connections.

Thanks for your comments.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline steventrain  
#34 Posted : 29 March 2009 14:03:36(UTC)
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Great job, Brakepad.Smile
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Offline Brakepad  
#35 Posted : 29 March 2009 23:27:19(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />I think it looks great as it is. I would not strip the paint off and repaint it.

If anything, re-touch the red edges, and maybe wherever the black paint has worn through to the bare metal.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck, and congratulations on such a lovely old lady!

Ray


Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by sudibarba
<br />
Funny how this works sometimes. I don't weather new items and was in the minority when suggesting tha Monster should not weather his Big Boy. My "naturally weathered" 3048s and other older loks are not going to be repainted - My new ones will weather naturally also - of course I will never see them in their advanced age.
I would not repaint either unless its a lot worse than appears.
Eric


Eric, Ray,

Thanks. At first I thought that a new paint job would be a plus, but after a deep shell cleaning I've realised that paint is not so bad (actually, black paint is much better than my other "early 3048" which is supposed to have been much less mistreated). It's possible that I give red paint a try as red paint has lots of scratches and is missing in many places.

I purchased this 3048 very cheap (around 30€ including tender and scuffed box) and has been a sort of "experiment", I had planned also to carry out an "experimental paint job" on an "experimental cheap loco" but now I'm not so sure. I have a BR80 3031 with telex lying around, bought in similar conditions, but paintjob looks (and is) much worse, so I'll probably start with that one.

At the time I've started to dissassemble that little loco, if you are interested I can take some pictures of the process.

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<br />Great job, Brakepad.Smile



Many thanks Steven. Glad you all liked it.

Best regards.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline intruder  
#36 Posted : 02 April 2009 02:58:23(UTC)
intruder

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Very nice work, BrakePad, as usual.

Märklin Archiv and your pictures tells me this about the production time of your 3048:
If your tender is marked 3026 it was made in 1960 or 1961, if the tender is marked 3048 it was made in 1962 or 1963.

- From 1964 the locomotive had vertical rods next to the front lamps, otherwise like the 62/63-version.
- From 1965 the text on the locomotive and on the tender was printed.
- In 1972 the front bogie wheels got nine spokes and no more Märklin logo on the cylinders.
1972 was the last year of production.
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline Osterthun  
#37 Posted : 02 April 2009 16:26:18(UTC)
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For those who are interested in pictures of F800, 3008, 3026, 3048 and 3148 (all 01 097 in 'Osterthun' style Smile), just see my Picture Book.


http://www.osterthun.com/WRF/M3148.JPG


Regards,
Frits


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Märklin 3148 in very good condition
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#38 Posted : 02 April 2009 16:40:01(UTC)
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Brakepad, I realise you have done most of the work (and a great job you have done), but these may be of use.


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Offline MARKLIN LOVER  
#39 Posted : 13 April 2009 23:21:57(UTC)
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AWESOME work!
Keep em on the rails!

Ivan!
Offline Empirejosef  
#40 Posted : 14 April 2009 00:14:44(UTC)
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very nice work ,
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