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EKay		#1 Posted : 13 October 2024 19:10:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Is anyone aware of HO figures from Preiser, Noch, Merten etc. depicting people smoking cigarettes or pipes? Particularly from the era 1950's through 1970's. I would like to find some as smoking was much more prevalent during earlier times.
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mike c		#2 Posted : 13 October 2024 19:24:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,217 Location: Montreal, QC		Good question. Is this for figures on the platforms or in coaches? I guess for today, you would need to have people vaping. I used a combination of yellow LEDs for the smoking section and bright white in the non smoking section to represent how the light covers may have been tinted by continuous exposure to smoke on a few coaches. I don't know if Noch ever made action figures with LED cigarette or pipe illumination. Regards Mike C
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EKay		#3 Posted : 13 October 2024 19:35:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: mike c Good question. Is this for figures on the platforms or in coaches? I guess for today, you would need to have people vaping. I used a combination of yellow LEDs for the smoking section and bright white in the non smoking section to represent how the light covers may have been tinted by continuous exposure to smoke on a few coaches. I don't know if Noch ever made action figures with LED cigarette or pipe illumination. Regards Mike C I can't seem to find any which I find crazy as it was a huge part of life, for so many, back in the day. Companies and modelers go to incredible lengths to achieve realism and detail in so many aspects. I would like to find smoking figures doing everything smokers do - walking, sitting, standing, working - men, women etc. Just looking for the normal figures. No movement or illumination. Good point regarding the yellow LED lighting for certain areas :-)
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kiwiAlan		#4 Posted : 13 October 2024 20:00:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,456 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: EKay Originally Posted by: mike c Good question. Is this for figures on the platforms or in coaches? I guess for today, you would need to have people vaping. I used a combination of yellow LEDs for the smoking section and bright white in the non smoking section to represent how the light covers may have been tinted by continuous exposure to smoke on a few coaches. I don't know if Noch ever made action figures with LED cigarette or pipe illumination. Regards Mike C I can't seem to find any which I find crazy as it was a huge part of life, for so many, back in the day. Companies and modelers go to incredible lengths to achieve realism and detail in so many aspects. I would like to find smoking figures doing everything smokers do - walking, sitting, standing, working - men, women etc. Just looking for the normal figures. No movement or illumination. Good point regarding the yellow LED lighting for certain areas :-) It would probably be worth firing off an email to the marketing departments of those companies to ask what era II-III (maybe also era IV) figures they have posed how you want.
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EKay		#5 Posted : 13 October 2024 20:05:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: EKay Originally Posted by: mike c Good question. Is this for figures on the platforms or in coaches? I guess for today, you would need to have people vaping. I used a combination of yellow LEDs for the smoking section and bright white in the non smoking section to represent how the light covers may have been tinted by continuous exposure to smoke on a few coaches. I don't know if Noch ever made action figures with LED cigarette or pipe illumination. Regards Mike C I can't seem to find any which I find crazy as it was a huge part of life, for so many, back in the day. Companies and modelers go to incredible lengths to achieve realism and detail in so many aspects. I would like to find smoking figures doing everything smokers do - walking, sitting, standing, working - men, women etc. Just looking for the normal figures. No movement or illumination. Good point regarding the yellow LED lighting for certain areas :-) It would probably be worth firing off an email to the marketing departments of those companies to ask what era II-III (maybe also era IV) figures they have posed how you want. I might try that with Preiser. They seem to have the largest selection of figures by far.
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Martti Mäntylä		#6 Posted : 13 October 2024 21:24:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/11/2018(UTC) Posts: 429 Location: Uusimaa, Helsinki		The old Märklin 0226 set included a pipe smoker.
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rhfil		#7 Posted : 13 October 2024 21:25:58(UTC) Retweet
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EKay		#8 Posted : 13 October 2024 21:28:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: Martti Mäntylä The old Märklin 0226 set included a pipe smoker. Thanks. At least there is one! :-)
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EKay		#9 Posted : 13 October 2024 21:30:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: rhfil Perhaps they all died of lung cancer. Probably not the pipe smokers, though.
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marklinist5999		#10 Posted : 13 October 2024 23:32:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,867 Location: Michigan, Troy		The unpainted Preiser assorted kits contain some figures without arms and extra arms and legs so you can customize poses. You can glue an arm raised near the face and glue a thin plastic rod painted like a cigar or cigarette in the hand. Plastic kits have scrap sprue pieces of all diameters.
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EKay		#11 Posted : 14 October 2024 06:20:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 The unpainted Preiser assorted kits contain some figures without arms and extra arms and legs so you can customize poses. You can glue an arm raised near the face and glue a thin plastic rod painted like a cigar or cigarette in the hand. Plastic kits have scrap sprue pieces of all diameters. That's probably more than I'm willing to deal with but a good point.
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marklinist5999		#12 Posted : 14 October 2024 14:35:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,867 Location: Michigan, Troy		I don't know if you live in the USA, but a company called Shapeways 3-D prints all sorts of ho scale items.
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Unholz		#13 Posted : 14 October 2024 15:42:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,435 Location: Switzerland		How about him? https://www.etsy.com/de/...mann-rauchen-ho-massstab Or this guy perhaps? https://www.etsy.com/de/...r-arbeiter-mann-rauchend
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EKay		#14 Posted : 14 October 2024 18:16:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 I don't know if you live in the USA, but a company called Shapeways 3-D prints all sorts of ho scale items. I'm not living in the U.S. but I tried to get to the website but it would not open. Maybe I should buy a 3D printer :-)
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EKay		#15 Posted : 14 October 2024 18:37:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: Unholz How about him? https://www.etsy.com/de/...mann-rauchen-ho-massstab Or this guy perhaps? https://www.etsy.com/de/...r-arbeiter-mann-rauchend Thanks. I've seen both, from searches, but I'm essentially looking for a set from or representing the 50's, 60's or 70's. Nothing "modern." I was ASSUMING there would be a set or sets (6 or 8 figures) of smokers from some company or companies but that appears not to be the case. You can find sets of mechanics, farm workers, police, passengers waiting, people at the beach, firemen, people sitting, bakers, people driving, people climbing steps, people dancing, etc. etc. etc. etc. apparently no set of people just smoking. It is as if smokers did not exist when smoking was considered fashionable, trendy and stylish. And, that was the case for many, many decades if not centuries. I really cannot understand this. Not really relevant, but... I am not and have never been a smoker but I remember being stuck in the smoking section of airplanes! I did not enjoy it. Smokers were everywhere.
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dave55uk		#16 Posted : 14 October 2024 19:06:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/09/2023(UTC) Posts: 103 Location: Ely, England		Originally Posted by: Unholz How about him? https://www.etsy.com/de/...mann-rauchen-ho-massstab Or this guy perhaps? https://www.etsy.com/de/...r-arbeiter-mann-rauchend The first figure looks very nice but the postage is more than the figure. £30 for one figure is a bit much unfortunately.
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kiwiAlan		#17 Posted : 14 October 2024 23:04:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,456 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: dave55uk Originally Posted by: Unholz How about him? https://www.etsy.com/de/...mann-rauchen-ho-massstab Or this guy perhaps? https://www.etsy.com/de/...r-arbeiter-mann-rauchend The first figure looks very nice but the postage is more than the figure. £30 for one figure is a bit much unfortunately. Even without considering the postage they seem expensive, considering one can get a set of half a dozen figures in a set for that price from Noch or Preiser.
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marklinist5999		#18 Posted : 15 October 2024 11:00:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,867 Location: Michigan, Troy		Yes and figures are expensive anyway. Especially the deluxe painted ones. As I had more time to spend, I took a liking to painting them. It's also a savings. I buy the inexpensive pastel and gloss acrylic craft paints. Fine point brushes and a toothpick. LED optivisor for small details.
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EKay		#19 Posted : 15 October 2024 11:08:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Yes and figures are expensive anyway. Especially the deluxe painted ones. As I had more time to spend, I took a liking to painting them. It's also a savings. I buy the inexpensive pastel and gloss acrylic craft paints. Fine point brushes and a toothpick. LED optivisor for small details. I may try that one day. Of course an advantage of unpainted figures is even though you may have some duplicate figures you can paint different color clothes on them or skin color. Then they're "different" figures/people. I haven't even built my layout yet so I have other priorities like collecting parts and pieces! Already have the LED magnifying visor too :-)
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Copenhagen		#20 Posted : 15 October 2024 14:06:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 493 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Thinking about it it's a bit funny that we have figures with beer bottles or sitting in beer gardens and we also have X rated figures. But no smokers. It can't be because smoking is really looked down upon today and even prohibited in many situations. Because then we would have had smokers available in the past. Maybe it's because the tiny details of a cigarette, pipe or cigar would be hard to depict convincingly in such small scale? And also having someone smoking or holding a lit cigarette wouldn't look real without actual smoke? It's easier with steam locomotives with built in smoke generators.
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EKay		#21 Posted : 15 October 2024 15:32:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Thinking about it it's a bit funny that we have figures with beer bottles or sitting in beer gardens and we also have X rated figures. But no smokers. It can't be because smoking is really looked down upon today and even prohibited in many situations. Because then we would have had smokers available in the past. Maybe it's because the tiny details of a cigarette, pipe or cigar would be hard to depict convincingly in such small scale? And also having someone smoking or holding a lit cigarette wouldn't look real without actual smoke? It's easier with steam locomotives with built in smoke generators. Yes, I thought the same about the beer drinkers and X-rated figures and I think there is a set with a bank robber with a gun and police, and if I'm not mistaken, there is a set of figures for a hostage situation. Having said all that, I often look for genuine old figures on ebay (used or new old stock) and always prefer to buy those for nostalgic reasons and they would match the era of my future layout much better... but I don't recall much in the way of smokers then, either.
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marklinist5999		#22 Posted : 15 October 2024 15:43:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,867 Location: Michigan, Troy		Oh, they have all kinds of new ones of modern life. I think even one of a thug mugging someone. I suppose smoking has become passe'.
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EKay		#23 Posted : 15 October 2024 16:01:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Oh, they have all kinds of new ones of modern life. I think even one of a thug mugging someone. I suppose smoking has become passe'. I'll buy that set just after I buy some of the freight cars that come from the manufacturer with "pre-installed" graffiti on the sides... (right around never)
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marklinist5999		#24 Posted : 15 October 2024 19:39:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,867 Location: Michigan, Troy		You can buy graffiti decals for a nominal price.
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EKay		#25 Posted : 15 October 2024 19:48:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 29		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 You can buy graffiti decals for a nominal price. better be so nominal they pay me - and a lot
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