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It will be announced tomorrow according to Märklin Facebook page:  Any ideas? 
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It is said that a shop at Paris has a m* ad on display showing the SNCF 141R1244.
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Originally Posted by: mmervine  Wonderful  ... and runs on R1 ! I saw these machines pass behind the schoolyard when I was a child. What happiness  I'm really happy for those who can buy it. As for me, I have my gas boiler to replace...  Best Regards Joël |
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Joël, does the passenger car exist? |
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thanks, there is no photograph of the original carriage type  |
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I've pre-ordered both the new car-set and the locomotive. On the web-page they also recommend the 43369 SBB car-set to go with the locomotive. Has this been a prototypical consist? |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Joël, does the passenger car exist? Hi Jonas, Found only one picture on the web:  maybe this is the same model... already on a link in a post upon from Mike C Best Regards Joël |
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I've pre-ordered both the new car-set and the locomotive. On the web-page they also recommend the 43369 SBB car-set to go with the locomotive. Has this been a prototypical consist? As this locomotive must have been preserved by a Swiss association, it must certainly pull this type of coaches today. When I saw these 141Rs pass behind the schoolyard, it was to pull long freight trains. This was a multi-purpose locomotive designed in USA. The locomotive has pulled every kind of cars and coaches available in the SNCF at the time. From old three axle coaches in the beginning to "modern" silver coaches of the "Mistral" train, and also the famous CIWL coaches of the "Train Bleu"...  Best Regards Joël |
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Did you know that Lemaco scale 1 did also produced same SNCF 141R 1244?
But the color are not same like Märklin/Trix?
I wonder if Märklin did used correct color schema on the french Mikado? |
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Found This: https://www.patrimoine-ferroviaire.fr/sncf-vapeur-141-r-1244/where we talk about the livery currently applied on the restored prototype: "the livery of the machine is not very respectful of History,
the white tires having only appeared at the end of the life of the 141-R and for only a few examples,
and the connecting rods having never been painted red.
We can also call it a manifest error to have equipped the machine with a two-tone whistle,
which makes no sense on this series which was never equipped in this way..."So Märklin may have chosen the current livery, although since 1947 the locomotive has had to change colors and equipments perhaps several times. But what a lovely locomotive ! Best Regards Joël |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Did you know that Lemaco scale 1 did also produced same SNCF 141R 1244?
But the color are not same like Märklin/Trix?
I wonder if Märklin did used correct color schema on the french Mikado? Also in scale H0 did Lemaco produced same model in same color like scale 1. |
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister On the web-page they also recommend the 43369 SBB car-set to go with the locomotive. Has this been a prototypical consist? No, absolutely not.  Those dreadful, toy-like "light steel" coaches for domestic service are supposed to represent era 3 (approx. 1945 till 1970 in Switzerland). During those years, the SNCF loco 141 R 1244 was not yet present in this country.
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister On the web-page they also recommend the 43369 SBB car-set to go with the locomotive. Has this been a prototypical consist? No, absolutely not. Those dreadful, toy-like "light steel" coaches for domestic service are supposed to represent era 3 (approx. 1945 till 1970 in Switzerland). During those years, the SNCF loco 141 R 1244 was not yet present in this country. I agree with you! SNCF old time wagons fits better. Between era 2-3 are recommended. |
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister On the web-page they also recommend the 43369 SBB car-set to go with the locomotive. The matching car set according to both Märklin flyer and website is actually: Gauge H0 - Article No. 43230 SNCF Passenger Car Set
Prototype: 3 four-axle pass, the so-called "Schürzenwagen" / "Skirted Passenger Cars" from the prewar period. Several of these cars remained after World War II in France and entered SNCF ownership in this manner. This group of cars has a bottle green basic paint scheme corresponding to the way the cars looked in Era IV at the start of the Seventies.
Links: https://www.maerklin.de/...m38141-galeriegross2.jpghttps://www.modellbahnsh...kt_38141_DE-EN_28623.pdf |
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Why doesn't this loc equip with synchronized smoking?
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The smoke generator synchronized are expensive and sensible.
They are not good quality and there sit a small motor with fan that must start blow synchronized every step time of the wheels turn around.
Small things are sensible and broke easy. |
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I think Goofy means sensitive, not sensible.  On the Stummi forums someone stated that there was not enough room for the synchronized smoke unit. Who knows? At some level, pricing must also become an issue. These surprise models already exceed the prices many will pay for a locomotive. |
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Originally Posted by: mrmarklin These surprise models already exceed the prices many will pay for a locomotive. They still seem to sell well though.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: mrmarklin These surprise models already exceed the prices many will pay for a locomotive. They still seem to sell well though. True. Most of them are special models and desireable. |
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Thanks for the review and pictures Shannon. I have been so busy that I had not seen this year's surprise loco until yesterday. My Northlander is out for delivery today and I was definitely going to wait a while to buy another loco. But I love this model. It is gorgeous and it would make a nice mate to my SNCF 241. It is also a tie-in with my other US locos, having been manufactured in North America. I may need to break my promise to myself to not buy another loco for a while. |
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I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Thanks for the review and pictures Shannon. I have been so busy that I had not seen this year's surprise loco until yesterday. My Northlander is out for delivery today and I was definitely going to wait a while to buy another loco. But I love this model. It is gorgeous and it would make a nice mate to my SNCF 241. It is also a tie-in with my other US locos, having been manufactured in North America. I may need to break my promise to myself to not buy another loco for a while. Hi Jim It is definitely worth buying. I have a friend being the enthusiast of Roco and ESU, but he also admits this loc surpasses his expecting better than Roco. Wish you get this model soon.
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