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Goofy		#1 Posted : 01 July 2024 19:45:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		I was looking for a new digital locomotive for the Märklin track. I did found out that Brawas details are sensible and are easy to broke small details which i do have some problem with the Brawas wagons. I don´t use Brawa DC anymore time because i did found out problems with the service about theirs digital locomotives. So i decides to use Märklin trains instead. Is there any one here who still use Brawa or not?
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marklinist5999		#2 Posted : 01 July 2024 19:48:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		f you've read the "my latest Locomotive purchase" or reviews, you'd see several recent. I've seen a few on I.G. who have the newer br 424. amd 425 railcar sets as well.
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David Dewar		#3 Posted : 01 July 2024 21:10:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,447 Location: Scotland		Brawa has a lot of detail. I usually keep small parts on the locos or coaches with a drop of plastic glue. Locos run well but some coaches can have problems on turnouts but different type of couplings can help that. In view of the price of Brawa I try to keep to Marklin or PIko as better buys.
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Copenhagen		#4 Posted : 01 July 2024 22:19:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 491 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Don't wanna give anyone the impression that I'm "stalking" Goofy or always want to attack his posts. I just seemed to remember him posting in a thread about Brawa earlier this year. And I found this: From this thread: https://www.marklin-user...51142-Done-with-Brawa-AC Originally Posted by: Goofy I have never tested Brawa ac loco but i do watch at Youtube and they show Brawas locomotive runs excellent on the C rail and K tracks. I must keep in remaind that it is not so many people who use Brawa ac locomotives like Märklin trains. Brawa are today made in China and it is a warning about worse quality test control. Just in case to understand...be sure that you have still warranty if your Brawa ac trains fail.
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Goofy		#5 Posted : 02 July 2024 05:36:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Don't wanna give anyone the impression that I'm "stalking" Goofy or always want to attack his posts. I just seemed to remember him posting in a thread about Brawa earlier this year. And I found this: From this thread: https://www.marklin-user...51142-Done-with-Brawa-AC Originally Posted by: Goofy I have never tested Brawa ac loco but i do watch at Youtube and they show Brawas locomotive runs excellent on the C rail and K tracks. I must keep in remaind that it is not so many people who use Brawa ac locomotives like Märklin trains. Brawa are today made in China and it is a warning about worse quality test control. Just in case to understand...be sure that you have still warranty if your Brawa ac trains fail. If you did read carefully there are complain too about Brawas models. There are fail too if you want to search more Brawa trains model to know about it.
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Copenhagen		#6 Posted : 02 July 2024 08:58:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 491 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Don't wanna give anyone the impression that I'm "stalking" Goofy or always want to attack his posts. I just seemed to remember him posting in a thread about Brawa earlier this year. And I found this: From this thread: https://www.marklin-user...51142-Done-with-Brawa-AC Originally Posted by: Goofy I have never tested Brawa ac loco but i do watch at Youtube and they show Brawas locomotive runs excellent on the C rail and K tracks. I must keep in remaind that it is not so many people who use Brawa ac locomotives like Märklin trains. Brawa are today made in China and it is a warning about worse quality test control. Just in case to understand...be sure that you have still warranty if your Brawa ac trains fail. If you did read carefully there are complain too about Brawas models. There are fail too if you want to search more Brawa trains model to know about it. If you read carefully you would see that there are several positive views on Brawa in the old thread. If you search carefully you can find lots of complaints about Marklin stuff both here and on youtube channels. You have even posted about bad Marklin products here several times. I suspect that you just made this topic to get some attention. Be it good or bad.
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hxmiesa		#7 Posted : 02 July 2024 11:52:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,587 Location: Spain		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen I suspect that you just made this topic to get some attention. Be it good or bad. I doubt there was put much thought into posting the topic in the first place...
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Goofy		#8 Posted : 02 July 2024 15:23:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Don't wanna give anyone the impression that I'm "stalking" Goofy or always want to attack his posts. I just seemed to remember him posting in a thread about Brawa earlier this year. And I found this: From this thread: https://www.marklin-user...51142-Done-with-Brawa-AC Originally Posted by: Goofy I have never tested Brawa ac loco but i do watch at Youtube and they show Brawas locomotive runs excellent on the C rail and K tracks. I must keep in remaind that it is not so many people who use Brawa ac locomotives like Märklin trains. Brawa are today made in China and it is a warning about worse quality test control. Just in case to understand...be sure that you have still warranty if your Brawa ac trains fail. If you did read carefully there are complain too about Brawas models. There are fail too if you want to search more Brawa trains model to know about it. If you read carefully you would see that there are several positive views on Brawa in the old thread. If you search carefully you can find lots of complaints about Marklin stuff both here and on youtube channels. You have even posted about bad Marklin products here several times. I suspect that you just made this topic to get some attention. Be it good or bad. Whoaaa! What a lot of disclaimed comments! Brawa produces in China and there has been lot of complain about theirs train models. Some of the Märklin trains has got bad reference too by other members here too in the forum. However there are difference quality between Brawa and Märklin trains. In fact does Brawa have worse quality about small details that are easy to broke. It´s also difference to do service. Several did also said that ESU trains are more difficult to do service than Märklin trains. In fact i do see Brawa are worse and i did decides to stop buying Brawa trains.
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David Dewar		#9 Posted : 02 July 2024 21:53:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,447 Location: Scotland		I dont buy Brawa mainly because of the price and where possible I prefer Marklin. However I do not see what is wrong with the Brawa quality in respect of the finish and model details. If by service we mean oil etc then that is not difficult if however we are talking about repairs then care has to be taken with the detail parts. I have owned Brawa locos and coaches and have few if any complaints. From your last post Goofy it appears there are complaints about all manufacturers and maybe you are in the wrong hobby.
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mike c		#10 Posted : 02 July 2024 23:57:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,216 Location: Montreal, QC		There actually are Maerklin models that are made by Brawa. What difference does it make that Brawa is made in China? Maerklin also sources some models in China and even the Made in Hungary (Maerklin) or Made in Romania (Roco) models likely have parts that were made in China. There has been an increase in the number of models that I have bought where obtaining spare parts has been problematic, but this is not limited to any one manufacturer, but rather linked to logistics issues post pandemic and limited production runs where there are fewer standard parts used in production and thus the parts are often also limited in quantity. Regards Mike C
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marklinist5999		#11 Posted : 03 July 2024 10:55:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		Wasn't the earlier Marklin Kof made by Brawa? Brawa is or was just east of Goeppingen in Waiblingen.
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kiwiAlan		#12 Posted : 03 July 2024 12:30:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,455 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Wasn't the earlier Marklin Kof made by Brawa? Brawa is or was just east of Goeppingen in Waiblingen. Yes, the 3680 was a collaboration with Brawa, but as I understand it, the relationship between the two companies soured, but I don't know why.
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Bigdaddynz		#13 Posted : 03 July 2024 22:22:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Since Goofy has so many problems with the model railroad hobby maybe you should give up and sell everything and start collecting toothpicks. No moving parts there to be broken.
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Marklineisenbahn		#14 Posted : 03 July 2024 23:05:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 311 Location: New York City		Hallo dreileiters, To be frank i point out on few occasions about it but got flamed out! He is constant malcontent and I am fed up with his behavior and alternating posts here … sometimes it’s hard to figure out what is he talking about and what is his problem! Ditto Cheers, Marklineisenbahn
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Copenhagen		#15 Posted : 03 July 2024 23:43:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 491 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Maybe I'm partly to blame here because I engage in debates with him. I only try to point out some of the logical flaws in his arguments and then things escalate. On the other hand he also has some constructive and helpful posts which is a plus.
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dickinsonj		#16 Posted : 04 July 2024 01:33:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Yes, he has actually made sense and been helpful several times in the last few months. I am worried that something is wrong.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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Goofy		#17 Posted : 07 July 2024 07:42:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Since Goofy has so many problems with the model railroad hobby maybe you should give up and sell everything and start collecting toothpicks. No moving parts there to be broken. Are you dumb against a member here!?? I did bought a Brawa locomotive for 520,00 euro for 7 years ago and the buffert was injured by the staff who had packed the locomotive in the factory. I had to drill by hand to be able to put that buffer back on the locomotive front. I sold the locomotive and later i did found out same model was sell at the toy market by same person who did bought my locomotive. Some of the details was broken and it was cheap price but nobody did bought it.
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Goofy		#18 Posted : 07 July 2024 07:45:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Hallo dreileiters, To be frank i point out on few occasions about it but got flamed out! He is constant malcontent and I am fed up with his behavior and alternating posts here … sometimes it’s hard to figure out what is he talking about and what is his problem! Ditto Cheers, Marklineisenbahn Do you even read others posts here too who presents fault in the train models and complain!???
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Copenhagen		#19 Posted : 07 July 2024 18:06:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 491 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Since Goofy has so many problems with the model railroad hobby maybe you should give up and sell everything and start collecting toothpicks. No moving parts there to be broken. Are you dumb against a member here!?? I did bought a Brawa locomotive for 520,00 euro for 7 years ago and the buffert was injured by the staff who had packed the locomotive in the factory. I had to drill by hand to be able to put that buffer back on the locomotive front. I sold the locomotive and later i did found out same model was sell at the toy market by same person who did bought my locomotive. Some of the details was broken and it was cheap price but nobody did bought it. That's you in a nutshell. You have one unfortunate experience with a delivery. And you use that to make a general claim about the quality of Brawa products. No brand is 100% problem free.
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H0		#20 Posted : 07 July 2024 19:31:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,432 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen You have one unfortunate experience with a delivery. Locos from any brand can get damaged if the dealer does a bad job with the packaging or if the parcel gets rough handling during transport. I think Brawa is more fragile than most other brands and their packages are more prone to damages than most other brands, but I also saw items from Märklin, Piko, or Roco arriving with damages that most likely occurred during transport. Long story short: Don't blame just the brand if a problem shows up in the transport chain.
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