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Offline Gnome  
#1 Posted : 05 April 2024 17:59:53(UTC)
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I bought this from an online Auctioneer about a year ago. The Auctioneer had it described as a "Marklin Coastal Fortress gun"

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I could not find " Marklin " anywhere on the model. It does look like a vintage (early 1900s) Marklin fortress gun.


The below Marklin gun looks almost exactly like mine. It says this is a 8056/2 made in 1930.

https://en.artstoysandde...c-477f-b4c4-4496ce91e55c
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Offline HO Collector  
#2 Posted : 05 April 2024 23:18:50(UTC)
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Can't help you as I don't know, however...

About a year or two years ago I have watched a program about an Antic Toys dealer. He ran a business in the UK, caught selling fakes and was fined, i think that his business was also shut. He moved to Tel Aviv and started again, selling antic and vintage toys (that were manufactured in China the day before), he conned many people including some that saw him as a good friend. I saw his adverts and really liked the stuff, good that it was out of reach.

Be careful out there.

Ben
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Offline Gnome  
#3 Posted : 05 April 2024 23:52:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HO Collector Go to Quoted Post
Can't help you as I don't know, however...

About a year or two years ago I have watched a program about an Antic Toys dealer. He ran a business in the UK, caught selling fakes and was fined, i think that his business was also shut. He moved to Tel Aviv and started again, selling antic and vintage toys (that were manufactured in China the day before), he conned many people including some that saw him as a good friend. I saw his adverts and really liked the stuff, good that it was out of reach.

Be careful out there.

Ben


I am in the US and the Auctioneer I bought it from is from Pennsylvania.

I was wondering if Marklin branded every single toy they made? Either with a tag rivetted on or stamped or engraved or etched.

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Offline marklinist5999  
#4 Posted : 06 April 2024 00:28:31(UTC)
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Yes, always a permanent etching, stamped in a casting, sheet metal, or plastic. Possibly a riveted on a ferris wheel base, etc. Maerklin, Marklin & cie or gmbh. Later just Marklin. Germany or Western Germany.
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Offline mvd71  
#5 Posted : 06 April 2024 08:42:03(UTC)
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I suggest you email with picture to Ritter restorations. they are experts in not only vintage marklin trains, but other marklin toys.
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#6 Posted : 06 April 2024 12:38:48(UTC)
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Offline marklinist5999  
#7 Posted : 06 April 2024 14:21:40(UTC)
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I saw that yesterday, but has nothing Marklin I.D. Christies has had at least one, but you do not see photos unless you have an account.
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Offline Purellum  
#8 Posted : 06 April 2024 16:45:52(UTC)
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It looks OK to me BigGrin

If it was a fake, you could be sure that the Märklin name would be clearly visible somewhere.

The name can be stamped on or painted.

a quick search for "Märklin Küstengeschütz Kanone" on Google found two on Ebay, from the same Ebay seller, both looks like yours,
one of them have a stamped marking in the barrel, the other has a painted marking on the side of the base:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/...m4px-Tq3TW8aApAxEALw_wcB


https://www.ebay.de/itm/...sUmNZJjHXowaAqe-EALw_wcB


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Offline Gnome  
#9 Posted : 06 April 2024 17:05:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

It looks OK to me BigGrin

If it was a fake, you could be sure that the Märklin name would be clearly visible somewhere.

The name can be stamped on or painted.

a quick search for "Märklin Küstengeschütz Kanone" on Google found two on Ebay, from the same Ebay seller, both looks like yours,
one of them have a stamped marking in the barrel, the other has a painted marking on the side of the base:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/...m4px-Tq3TW8aApAxEALw_wcB


https://www.ebay.de/itm/...sUmNZJjHXowaAqe-EALw_wcB


Per.

Cool



I was just thinking that if it was fake they would have a done a better job at aligning the 2 gear racks to be parallel to each other. As it is they are not exactly parallel which leads a little binding of the gear wheel at the top of the rack. I will try to take a picture to explain what I mean.
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Offline HO Collector  
#10 Posted : 10 April 2024 23:12:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gnome Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: HO Collector Go to Quoted Post
Can't help you as I don't know, however...

About a year or two years ago I have watched a program about an Antic Toys dealer. He ran a business in the UK, caught selling fakes and was fined, i think that his business was also shut. He moved to Tel Aviv and started again, selling antic and vintage toys (that were manufactured in China the day before), he conned many people including some that saw him as a good friend. I saw his adverts and really liked the stuff, good that it was out of reach.

Be careful out there.

Ben


I am in the US and the Auctioneer I bought it from is from Pennsylvania.

I was wondering if Marklin branded every single toy they made? Either with a tag rivetted on or stamped or engraved or etched.



The dealer (who was British) had to shut the one in Tel Aviv and disappeared after the TV reporter managed to trap him in an Honey Pot.
And yes, Marklin always marked there products.

Ben
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Offline Gnome  
#11 Posted : 18 April 2024 00:56:51(UTC)
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So it seems like Marklin either stamped the breech of the barrell or printed on the side of the gun. Mine isn't stamped on the barrell so it might have had a painted on marking on the side of the gun.

Looking at the side where a marking may have been I can see the very faint outline of a stamping. There is a number stamped on the side or it could be alphanumeric.

It looks like it says " S094 " OR " S096"


Below that is another set of 4 digits, but it is so faint I can't discern it.


I emailed Ritter restorations with some pictures.
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