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 Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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webserver 2.5.2(6) 26.02.2024 **
cs3-gui 2.5.2(6)02.2024 **
lokicons 2.5.2 17.01.2024 **
spielewelt 2.5.2(0) 19.01.2024 **
candevices 2.5.2 22.02.2024 **
decoder FW V3.3.1.0/SpurN 09.02.2024 **
by translate.google.com
Version 2.5.2
Bug fixes
Improvements
Update Lokicons
Lokicons of the new products for 2024 have been added.
Bug fixes
S88 feedback for PC programs
The S88 feedback has been made functional. The background is an incorrect implementation of the CAN command. The correction was made incompatible with the PC programs. It could only be executed through the CS3.
Mfx third-party decoder registration and processing
When processing / registering / re-registering external mfx decoders, it could happen that this could not be completed and thus got stuck in an endless loop. For existing decoders, the message “The decoder has a changed firmware version and will be re-registered for security reasons” appears. However, this process could not be completed and so it kept coming back. Likewise, registering new decoders was not completely possible.
Newly created tractions
Newly created tractions could not be controlled. The cause of this has been resolved.
USB device detection
An error in reporting USB devices to the WebApp has been fixed so that the USB devices are now displayed correctly in the WebApp.
Incorrect display of booster consumption values
The booster consumption values were incorrectly interpreted by the web server, causing the web app to display the incorrect values.
Switch between WebApp and MobileWebApp
An error occurred while switching between the WebApp and MobileWebApp. Calling /app via mobile devices continued to point to /mobilewebapp. The bug in the browser switch has been fixed. Additionally, both apps tried to access the same browser cache, which caused the MobileWebApp to stop loading. This issue has also been resolved.
List of Lokicons in the file manager is empty
Previously, if there were corrupt Lokicons in the Lokicons folder, an empty list was returned. Now these icons are ignored and a list without these icons is returned.
Fixed error when resetting the locomotives
An error in the web server meant that the locomotive was not read out after a reset.
Fixed error in displaying events
Due to an error in interpreting the event data, only empty events were displayed.
Fixed error uploading Lokicons
JPEG and GIF files could not be uploaded because the file extension was not correctly changed to PNG.
Fixed an error when programming via the DecoderTool
An error in the web server meant that programming decoders via the DecoderTool was not possible. |
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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It’s still a bugs with using ESU 5 decoder... When putting a new engine, it read decoder but doesn't show it under the engine list. Has the latest FW and it has never been on track before  When I put back another engine it start reregistration that engine like a second one and CS3 after a minutes go into STOP mode  |
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2 users liked this useful post by jonas_sthlm
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Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC)
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Location: Norway
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Looks like there is some bugs in the 2,5,2 (6) as well  I tried for the 3rd time with a USB Stick and still get the same error message as before,,, Good job Märklin Think I go back to 2,4,1 software. It didn't have this problems Go back to model trains they said, it is fun they said  |
Pål Paulsen
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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I removed all engines with ESU 5 decoder to avoid CS3 going into STOP mode. It's getting ridiculous that M won't be able to handle this  |
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Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm  It's getting ridiculous that M won't be able to handle this Agreed ! |
Pål Paulsen
Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3 |
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Why don´t you use DCC protocol instead with ESU loco? |
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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 Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,912 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Goofy, because ESU M4 decoders are mfx auto, and supposed to work with the CS3 like before. My JC sielbahn has an ESU M4 decoder and does.
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Why don´t you use DCC protocol instead with ESU loco? this is not science, so way should people start removing this settings? |
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Joined: 14/12/2020(UTC) Posts: 29 Location: Illinois, Chicago
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm webserver 2.5.2(6) 26.02.2024 **
cs3-gui 2.5.2(6)02.2024 **
lokicons 2.5.2 17.01.2024 **
spielewelt 2.5.2(0) 19.01.2024 **
candevices 2.5.2 22.02.2024 **
decoder FW V3.3.1.0/SpurN 09.02.2024 **
by translate.google.com
Version 2.5.2
Bug fixes
Improvements
Update Lokicons
Lokicons of the new products for 2024 have been added.
Bug fixes
S88 feedback for PC programs
The S88 feedback has been made functional. The background is an incorrect implementation of the CAN command. The correction was made incompatible with the PC programs. It could only be executed through the CS3.
Mfx third-party decoder registration and processing
When processing / registering / re-registering external mfx decoders, it could happen that this could not be completed and thus got stuck in an endless loop. For existing decoders, the message “The decoder has a changed firmware version and will be re-registered for security reasons” appears. However, this process could not be completed and so it kept coming back. Likewise, registering new decoders was not completely possible.
Newly created tractions
Newly created tractions could not be controlled. The cause of this has been resolved.
USB device detection
An error in reporting USB devices to the WebApp has been fixed so that the USB devices are now displayed correctly in the WebApp.
Incorrect display of booster consumption values
The booster consumption values were incorrectly interpreted by the web server, causing the web app to display the incorrect values.
Switch between WebApp and MobileWebApp
An error occurred while switching between the WebApp and MobileWebApp. Calling /app via mobile devices continued to point to /mobilewebapp. The bug in the browser switch has been fixed. Additionally, both apps tried to access the same browser cache, which caused the MobileWebApp to stop loading. This issue has also been resolved.
List of Lokicons in the file manager is empty
Previously, if there were corrupt Lokicons in the Lokicons folder, an empty list was returned. Now these icons are ignored and a list without these icons is returned.
Fixed error when resetting the locomotives
An error in the web server meant that the locomotive was not read out after a reset.
Fixed error in displaying events
Due to an error in interpreting the event data, only empty events were displayed.
Fixed error uploading Lokicons
JPEG and GIF files could not be uploaded because the file extension was not correctly changed to PNG.
Fixed an error when programming via the DecoderTool
An error in the web server meant that programming decoders via the DecoderTool was not possible. Reading this list of bug fixes it feels like there were A LOT of big problems with 2.5.1. It should never have been approved for release. I would hope they are improving their testing protocols.
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2 users liked this useful post by Diesel2000
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Originally Posted by: Goofy Why don´t you use DCC protocol instead with ESU loco? this is not science, so way should people start removing this settings? It´s a science because Märklin did put mfx, MM and DCC protocols in the system. |
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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It is a science if the do their own standard and doesn't understand it.. or if they don't bother to test the change before publish  Should we have to wait until next Christmas for an update again? |
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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Originally Posted by: Diesel2000 Reading this list of bug fixes it feels like there were A LOT of big problems with 2.5.1. It should never have been approved for release. I would hope they are improving their testing protocols. Totally agree and I start to wonder if they has two isolated employees doing all testing. I had expected that after two months they should minimum have resolved decoder issues. Still broken links and missing information on the English page so they doesn't seems so important customers. |
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,912 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Probably so. Marklin doesn't employ a dedicated full time software engineer or department.
However, if they use well experienced consultants per diem, you would think they could be able to resolve this promptly. Unless they have to first look at the entire packet of data to analyze.
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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They rename the link name to 2.5 instead 2.5.2 of the Update-Information CS 3 PDF, so that's maybe means no new information |
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1 user liked this useful post by jonas_sthlm
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,912 Location: Michigan, Troy
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A pdf is not code in a correct format. I'm not installing anything more for this unless I see a red dot when I connect my CS3 to the web.
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 Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,564 Location: Paris, France
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Hi Jonas, Diesel Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Originally Posted by: Diesel2000 Reading this list of bug fixes it feels like there were A LOT of big problems with 2.5.1. It should never have been approved for release. I would hope they are improving their testing protocols. Totally agree and I start to wonder if they has two isolated employees doing all testing. I had expected that after two months they should minimum have resolved decoder issues. Still broken links and missing information on the English page so they doesn't seems so important customers. Marklinist here (all my equipment is Märklin except one LokSound 5 equipped loco. I use V2.5.1(0) now for quite a while, with Rocrail and with my iPhone. There are MANY things that are reported in the list of problem fixes that were VERY SPECIFIC and that I could not notice using Märklin locos with Märklin decoders. The problem related to M88 is NONEXISTENT to me using with Rocrail. What I am trying to say is: let's not exagerate on how bad V2.5.1(0) was. To me: no problem with the ESU MFX usage No problem with M88 handling of detectors for a PC (Rocrail) The only bug I noticed (not in the list BTW) is the handling of the favourite loco list when using a smartphone (iPhone 11 in my case). No big deal, until fixed, have only one loco in the favourite list. So, in conclusion Train modelers who like to mix brands a lot are more affected than pure Märklinists like me. Cheers Jean |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm It is a science if the do their own standard and doesn't understand it.. or if they don't bother to test the change before publish Should we have to wait until next Christmas for an update again? CS3/CS3+ is a base unit. |
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 981 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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yes, with their brilliant technical mfx function |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm yes, with their brilliant technical mfx function Still people complain about mfx protocol. |
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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Has anyone tried Zimo sound decoder type MSxxx?
Can you read it by use mfx protocol with latest CS3 version? |
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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 Joined: 03/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 58 Location: Buenos Aires
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Has anyone tried Zimo sound decoder type MSxxx?
Can you read it by use mfx protocol with latest CS3 version? Hello Goofy! Last update has a firmware update for MFX. If your loco does not respond to your commands you must delete it and recognize again
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Joined: 03/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 58 Location: Buenos Aires
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Hello everybody, where can I find old versions of CS3 to download?
Because I always make the upgrade by ethernet connection.
Many thanks to all!
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 Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia
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Hello
In the marklin site, under service/cs3 updates , german version, you will find version 2.4.1 to download along with the instructions to downgrade
Regards |
 German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL |
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In another forum they are saying that latest upgraded version are now working without fail. Even ESU decoder works fine too. |
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I can´t find information about MS2 version 4.13.
What changed is there? |
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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someone works on sunday...
lokicons 2.5.2(1) 05.03.2024 ** |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy I can´t find information about MS2 version 4.13.
What changed is there? There has been no update to the release notes (other than to comment that the version 4.13 was available in the CAN package. The release note text themselves are for the prior release) So it comes down to "observation" and I will note the appearance of the a Setting option ... - called "Loco Symbol" - with options for - - Show - - Hide. This is seen with the 60653/7 Mobile Station but not the 60667 Mobile Station WLAN Comment: it would be nice if they kept these "settings" (Display Brightness, Tacho Type, Loco Symbol) grouped together rather than leaving "functions" (Factory defaults, Updates) in the middle of the list I also observe a change in the icon graphics (may not have been the very latest release) - e.g. the inertial "lead weight" icon is seen - whereas the MSW version is still showing the Tortoise - The "Shunting function" icon does show the Tortoise coorcetly I also observe that the MS retains its own/old Locos (this may be a legacy issue of "same CS3, BUT not bothering to refresh the Loco Roster" - i.e. Locos had been removed from CS3) |
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