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Offline haxpet  
#1 Posted : 12 March 2009 12:04:12(UTC)
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Hi

What kind of C-Track pieces are you missing in the track program today?

Personaly I would like a bigger curved turnout. Like a R3 or bigger. Todays curved turnout is based on Two R1 and a 24077. So if they would try and make a bigger one they should base it on two R3, R4 or R5 and a 24064. In that way when you make a split and use 4 additional R3, R4 or R5 they would have the same space between them as the slim swithed tracks hava.

One other thing that I would like to have is a small R9 piece that would make todays R9 curve 15 degrees, so that piece would need to be 2.9 degrees. Or they could just make a 15 degree piece.

When they have made that you could easily make 90 degrees curves with R9 or use R5 in the middle to form these transision (spelling!!) curves.

And then they could make a 15 degrees R8 or R10 that will have the same spacing as the R5 and R4.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 12 March 2009 12:13:03(UTC)
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Larger curved turnouts, slim double slipswitches and 3 way turnouts to match the 2471x switches, flex C track. Others have also mentioned the lack of a 'Y' turnout. Also bridge ramp curves for R3 and R4, and proper R6, R7, R8 and R9 curves
Offline xxup  
#3 Posted : 12 March 2009 12:34:52(UTC)
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Offline davemr  
#4 Posted : 12 March 2009 13:01:14(UTC)
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Flex track for me.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#5 Posted : 12 March 2009 13:35:55(UTC)
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Hi Haxpet,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: ....small R9 curve, to add to 12.1 degree piece so that piece would need to be 2.9 degrees.....total 15° ....

Excellent idea. A 24929.

I believe then you might also desire a 24315, a 24415 and a 24515 - all at 15°, to make up 30° sections as transitions.

Of course you can currently use 2 of 24912 + 1 of 24206 to make 30°, which I do to complete transitions or such at the moment.

Apart from the missing 24929, I would not be able to use any other pieces, I believe the Märklin track sets are very complete, and well designed.
regards
Kimball
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Offline Zora la rousse  
#6 Posted : 12 March 2009 14:28:56(UTC)
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A 360 mm piece. I don't like to stick a 172 mm and 188 mm piece together every time.
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Offline black_pete  
#7 Posted : 12 March 2009 14:55:05(UTC)
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Hmmm, a 360mm section would be useful but I'd kinda like the equivalent of the 2205 K flex track even if it doesn't flex ie a section of C that's 5 x 188mm long.
Regards
Pete

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Offline haxpet  
#8 Posted : 12 March 2009 15:45:22(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Hi Haxpet,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: ....small R9 curve, to add to 12.1 degree piece so that piece would need to be 2.9 degrees.....total 15° ....

Excellent idea. A 24929.

I believe then you might also desire a 24315, a 24415 and a 24515 - all at 15°, to make up 30° sections as transitions.

Of course you can currently use 2 of 24912 + 1 of 24206 to make 30°, which I do to complete transitions or such at the moment.

Apart from the missing 24929, I would not be able to use any other pieces, I believe the Märklin track sets are very complete, and well designed.
regards
Kimball


I was thinkig of having first the 24912 and then the little piece that you call 24929, after that I can put two R5 or R4 and then finnish it of with the same pieces again, that would make a nice 90 degree turn with transition in both ends.

Today you have to do exactly as you say and use a small R2 that is 6 degrees. But I don't like it, you will get a small kink in the curve.
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Offline rbw993  
#9 Posted : 12 March 2009 17:18:28(UTC)
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Haxpet,
At first I thought you had it nailed as I agreed with your ideas. Then I saw Zora's. Her request makes sense too, less connections = better conductivity.

Flex track would be technically impressive. I am not sure how they would do it because of the complexity of the end connectors.

As I side note you can use the 24912's with the 30degree r3-r5. you just need to use 5 of them. 60.5 degrees is close enough to 60 to not matter. It doesn't make for avery symmetrical curve though.

Roger

Offline haxpet  
#10 Posted : 12 March 2009 18:18:48(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rbw993
<br />Haxpet,
At first I thought you had it nailed as I agreed with your ideas. Then I saw Zora's. Her request makes sense too, less connections = better conductivity.

Flex track would be technically impressive. I am not sure how they would do it because of the complexity of the end connectors.

As I side note you can use the 24912's with the 30degree r3-r5. you just need to use 5 of them. 60.5 degrees is close enough to 60 to not matter. It doesn't make for avery symmetrical curve though.

Roger




I guess you are right in that we should have less connections to get better conductivity. But then they could make a 15 degrees R9.
Märklin, 3R, Digital (system), C-Track, favourit loco: Baureihe 103 137-6
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I will buy Märklin 4644 BP tankerwagons that have the original box and are in good condition. (No broken details)
Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 12 March 2009 19:07:43(UTC)
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Long 3-ways and 'Y' points.
Long straight tracks.
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Offline perz  
#12 Posted : 12 March 2009 19:57:56(UTC)
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Shorter C-to-K transition track. 3 - 4 cm would be a suitable length.
Shorter C-to-M transition track. 3 - 4 cm would be a suitable length.
More short straight tracks, in the 2 - 5 cm range.

And then, of course all of what all of you have already mentioned.

Offline Goofy  
#13 Posted : 12 March 2009 20:32:47(UTC)
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By created C-tracks without plactic-ballast...!
What else...?
Just to piss of K-tracks...! biggrin

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Offline hxmiesa  
#14 Posted : 12 March 2009 21:01:07(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by haxpet
One other thing that I would like to have is a small R9 piece that would make todays R9 curve 15 degrees, so that piece would need to be 2.9 degrees. Or they could just make a 15 degree piece.

If you could work within the 60º segment, you can create exactly that with 5x 24912.
-Also bear in mind that 2x 24912 + 1x 24206 equals 30º.
-Or that 2x 24912 equals a 24224 (standard R2 turnouts).

Lots of wishes around here. -But hardly possible in this time of crisis.
A flex track and a slim DKW would lift the C-track sortiment up to at least "acceptable" level ;-)
Best regards
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Offline al_pignolo  
#15 Posted : 12 March 2009 22:39:17(UTC)
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Large curved turnouts and flex track.

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Offline MarioFabro  
#16 Posted : 13 March 2009 00:29:21(UTC)
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Easy:

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Offline mike c  
#17 Posted : 13 March 2009 00:35:14(UTC)
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An interesting list of track suggestions.

Here's my two cents:

1) Curved switches for R3, R4 and R5.

2) Conversion track from C to M that has the proper rail profile for M. The existing track goes from C to K profile with M connector.

3) Dual flyover (2 or 3 piece) that would enable bidirectional flyover in a 360mm segment (2 track lengths).

How many other brands have flex track with a plastic base?
How would this be designed?

Regards

Mike C
Offline kimballthurlow  
#18 Posted : 13 March 2009 01:39:55(UTC)
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The 360mm straight represents a problem, in that it may too easily become warped under heat or other external factors. You can get 24236 (236mm long). I believe that is about the limit of practicality.
The connection of a number of smaller pieces creates better physical certainty for carpet-bahns, temporary layouts and changing gradients.
The fact that M have not produced a 360mm straight is evidence of either the above facts, or there is not enough demand for it (couldn't sell enough), or both.
regards
Kimball
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Offline jetavdk  
#19 Posted : 15 March 2009 09:06:27(UTC)
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Wide radius scissor cross and double slip. The Marklin I track was revamped maybe if Marklin survives we will see it too.
Offline hxmiesa  
#20 Posted : 15 March 2009 11:14:29(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jetavdk
<br />The Marklin I track was revamped maybe if Marklin survives we will see it too.

1-scale was revamped only because M. bought all of Hübner. -I dont think it was because of in-house development.
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Offline atilla  
#21 Posted : 15 March 2009 17:38:59(UTC)
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Good discussion! I finally really "looked" at the c-track illustrations in the catalogs and the booklet that came with my starter set. It started to come home to me why the 24077, 24071, 24094, 24064 exist!
Offline jetavdk  
#22 Posted : 15 March 2009 22:07:06(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jetavdk
<br />The Marklin I track was revamped maybe if Marklin survives we will see it too.

1-scale was revamped only because M. bought all of Hübner. -I dont think it was because of in-house development.


Understood,it would be nice to see those designs shrinked down though for both K & C
Offline WelshMatt  
#23 Posted : 16 March 2009 00:11:39(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mike c
<br />An interesting list of track suggestions.

Here's my two cents:

1) Curved switches for R3, R4 and R5.

2) Conversion track from C to M that has the proper rail profile for M. The existing track goes from C to K profile with M connector.

3) Dual flyover (2 or 3 piece) that would enable bidirectional flyover in a 360mm segment (2 track lengths).

How many other brands have flex track with a plastic base?
How would this be designed?

Regards

Mike C


I too would like to see larger radius curved points. I realise that they're not common in real life but they're very handy for modellers who want to make the most of their space.

I think the problem there is that M track used rails formed from rolled and folded metal rather than a solid section (as used on K and C track). I've had a few pieces of M track where the end was badly bent and impossible to completely straighten. The existing adaptors seem to work ok though - I've never had any derailing problems.
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Offline Diggum  
#24 Posted : 16 March 2009 05:05:29(UTC)
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I'm sure I'm in the minority but I'd love to see R1 turnouts and X-crossings / double-slip switches.

C-rails are fantastic for conductivity and being able to run huge layouts without track-jumping and derailments like M, but I miss being able to make track-dense carpetbahns with figure-8's and switchbacks in a reasonable amount of space.



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Offline kimballthurlow  
#25 Posted : 16 March 2009 06:47:45(UTC)
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Hi John,
I thought the standard turnout (24611 -12), crossing and double slip were R1.
regards
Kimball
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Offline Hannu  
#26 Posted : 16 March 2009 07:25:56(UTC)
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Lack of wide radius double slip switch is the most important reason to me, why I consider to make my layout with Märklin K-tracks or Pecos tracks modified to 3-rail operation. I can not understand, why Märklin has forgotten such an essential component of track building.

Second in my wishlist is scissors crossing (like this N-scale crossing) with wide switch geometry and 64,3 or 77,5 mm spacing between the rails. However, scissor crossing can be made from existing C-tracks, whereas reliable 12 degree double slip switch is nearly impossible (at least for my skills).

I would also appreciate R6 curve radius, curved turnouts with minimum radius of 600 mm to connect R6 and R5, and 15 degree clothoid parts between the straight track and R5 and R6 curves.

Flex track could of course be used to wide radius curves and clothoids, but I think that reliable flex track with C-tracks roadbed may be technically impossible.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#27 Posted : 16 March 2009 07:30:49(UTC)
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Kimball, no they are R2!
Offline kimballthurlow  
#28 Posted : 16 March 2009 12:17:28(UTC)
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Hi Hannu,

IMHO, the whole rationale behind Märklin C track, is to simplify the process of designing and building an <u>operating</u> train set or layout, whether temporary (carpet-bahn) or permanent.

Any piece that complicates that rationale, need not IMHO, be offered by Märklin. As expressed earlier, 2 by R9 (24912) plus a 24206 creates a practical model equivalent of a clothoid spiral.

The double slip switch in wide radius would be rather nice for some users. I have two only wide radius turnouts on my layout, and no crossover, so I could not use such a piece.

Hi David, thanks for clarifying about the R2 on the standard points.

regards
Kimball
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Offline jvuye  
#29 Posted : 17 March 2009 06:21:22(UTC)
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Hi Folks
I love all the above suggestionsbiggrin, they all make a lot of sense!
I have chosen the marvelously engineered *practical* C-Track system especially because of the more reliable overall operation relative to the *prototypical* K-track
(No need to flame me here please, that is just my personal opinion based upon my well documented own clumsiness. All the people who have played train with me will confirm that fact...[:o)]wink)
Yes I'd especially love the wide curved switches between R3, R4 and R5, (it would make the right entrance to my station look sooo much better) and I'd love the wide double slip-switch first (since I am building my new layout!!wink)
Then I love the fact it still will be easy to make changes later...and just for that, I find C-track to be the most "flexible" biggrin
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#30 Posted : 17 March 2009 06:25:55(UTC)
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Hi Jacques,
Yes, you have summed it up well. C track is supremely well designed and practical.
I recently did a major (4 or 5 metres of track) extension to my layout, and without all the messy ballasting, I was able to run trains within 5 minutes of having the base set up.
That's instant fun with C track.
regards
Kimball
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Offline Hannu  
#31 Posted : 17 March 2009 10:56:03(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
IMHO, the whole rationale behind Märklin C track, is to simplify the process of designing and building an <u>operating</u> train set or layout, whether temporary (carpet-bahn) or permanent.


Yes, I understand well, that easy trackbuilding and very prototypical layouts are not realistic simultaneous demands. Especially when economical points of view are taken into account. Most demanding builders use 2-rail systems, because center studs are too unrealistic for them. So it would be uneconomical to Märklin to make all wishes seen in this discussion. However, I like Märklin's reliable electric function and high tractive force so much, that I accept 3-rail tracks if they are geometrically suitable.


Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:As expressed earlier, 2 by R9 (24912) plus a 24206 creates a practical model equivalent of a clothoid spiral.


Technically that works, but clothoids (or any simpler easements) are just visual thing in Märklin HO. I have tried that, and some other configurations too, but I did not like them visually. However, it is relatively easy to cut C-tracks in suitable lengths. Therefore, extensive set of different length track pieces are not important for me.
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Offline Train kept a rollin  
#32 Posted : 17 March 2009 11:12:08(UTC)
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I know you get one in K-track (that you can adapt for use with C-track) but I would like a straight/direct C-track turntable!
Regards
Wilhelm
Offline kimballthurlow  
#33 Posted : 17 March 2009 22:13:17(UTC)
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Hi Hannu,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:.... clothoids (or any simpler easements) are just visual thing in Märklin HO. I have tried that, and some other configurations too, but I did not like them visually.


Yes I agree. I did some spiral transitision curves (easements) in 2-rail HO, using proper engineering formula, with a curve radius of 1 metre. And a 1.5mm super-elevation as well. They looked really superb.

However, I never did get to finish that layout to where I actually ran trains. Which is a shame. I discarded that layout base recently.

It all seems to prove in my case, I never had the required time, and space to have that sort of a model layout. Hence my complete satisfaction with the Märklin HO layout I now have working.

regards
Kimball
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Offline LeoArietis  
#34 Posted : 17 March 2009 22:34:20(UTC)
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The wide radius curved points (turnouts), curved in R3 or R4 or R5 or something like that. (some clever combo of them?) A straight turnout in radi R3 or R4 or R5 with maybe 18 degree angle and straight of maybe equal to 24188 or 24229 would allow for some very interesting and nice looking track-work. Maybe one need to use the 24071 at the ends of those turnouts but with another type of "V-filler".

The R9-double-switch (cross).

The 6-degree-curves in R9, R5, R4 R3. (need for less number of various sections). I have cut quite a few R9 into 6-degrees, and at the end I add a small piece of a straight track, thus creating two curves out of one 24912.

Flex-track for C, only need to flex down to maybe 600 mm radi, smaller radius can be obtained with regular track.



If no flextrack, then a (cirka) 2 m radi 6-degree curve.

A short straight, 32-33 mm and maybe 45 mm. 24033 and 24045

24033+24071 equals the straight track in the short cross 24648. With 33mm you will also be able to get very close to 179-180 mm with the current track-program.

I have been able to cut and manufacture a 33-34 mm long straight, but it's difficult.

Extra options...
72-degree cross, hosenträger for R9 and R2.


I like the C-tracks cause the system is well thought out, however tracks are missing like the wide curved turnouts and the very short straight!
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
Offline Legless  
#35 Posted : 18 March 2009 11:13:35(UTC)
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For me it's flexitrack with the outer rails slit diagonal (so they can slide past when the track is flexed) and the centre rail acting like a spine.
Ctrack without ballast so it can be used on wooden truss bridges.
Double tracks for a weight station.
Legless
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Offline clapcott  
#36 Posted : 18 March 2009 21:00:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hannu
... However, it is relatively easy to cut C-tracks in suitable lengths. Therefore, extensive set of different length track pieces are not important for me.


Relative is relative. I believe there are enough skills needed along with the availability of "the correct" tools to make this surgery an action last resort.

Issues arrise because of
- non-square cuts across the track piece
- dislodged rails ( from vibration if a hacksaw or dremel is used without good clamping)
- (most importantly) the loss of trackbed support
- reattach method (stiffner/glue etc.)

In response to the original question I would like to see a "C-Track toolkit" containing
- 40mm jig/mitre for easy clamping of track piece AND rails to aid in precision cutting without stress/damage.
- matching saw
- selection of "splints" that provide both precision alignment AND under roadbed support
- rail joiners
Peter
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#37 Posted : 18 March 2009 21:08:55(UTC)
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I would like to see a variant of the 24994,24194,29294 circuit tracks with pre-molded 5mm holes able to mount LEDs. Be it for LISSY type sensing or more fundamental IR occupancy detection
Peter
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Offline teerex  
#38 Posted : 28 December 2023 13:16:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
The 360mm straight represents a problem, in that it may too easily become warped under heat or other external factors. You can get 24236 (236mm long). I believe that is about the limit of practicality.
The connection of a number of smaller pieces creates better physical certainty for carpet-bahns, temporary layouts and changing gradients.
The fact that M have not produced a 360mm straight is evidence of either the above facts, or there is not enough demand for it (couldn't sell enough), or both.
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Kimball


Well, 2 years later we got our 360 mm straight C-track pieceSmile
As we know it's a 172 and 188 plastic roadbed connected but no rail joint, so it really appears as one piece.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#39 Posted : 28 December 2023 20:06:22(UTC)
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The 360mm straight represents a problem, in that it may too easily become warped under heat or other external factors. You can get 24236 (236mm long). I believe that is about the limit of practicality.
The connection of a number of smaller pieces creates better physical certainty for carpet-bahns, temporary layouts and changing gradients.
The fact that M have not produced a 360mm straight is evidence of either the above facts, or there is not enough demand for it (couldn't sell enough), or both.
regards
Kimball


Well, 2 years later we got our 360 mm straight C-track pieceSmile
As we know it's a 172 and 188 plastic roadbed connected but no rail joint, so it really appears as one piece.


The 24360 straight was introduced in 2011 according to the marklin database, so it is now a teenager in the product catalogue.

The items that I think they could make very readily, with minimum design effort as many of the parts already for them already exist, is Y points in both R2 and R3 radii.

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#40 Posted : 28 December 2023 22:27:44(UTC)
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Short turnouts that don't lift up the sliders or cause derailing.
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