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Offline ocram63_uk  
#1 Posted : 21 January 2023 17:14:26(UTC)
ocram63_uk

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on the 37550, Br 55 555, the previous owner installed a smoke unit. The instruction booklet says that for analogue train power you need a Seuthe 20 and for Digital you need a Seuthe 24
Assuming the prev owner wasn't dumb he should have bought the 24
How can I tell though? Removing the boiler is such a pain with all the accessories that are plugged into it and that can break.
I don't want to re-open the bloody engine again 😊
Thank you
Marco
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Offline Crazy Harry  
#2 Posted : 21 January 2023 18:05:08(UTC)
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I don't have any personal experience but looking at the Seuthe website it sees the #20 has a red insulator and the #24 has a green insulator. Obviously, you would still have to open the locomotive to see the colour of the base insulator.

Otherwise, turning on the smoke unit and checking the current draw would be a indication, the current draws given on Seuthe's Tech. Info are 120mA draw for the #20 and 70mA for the #24.

Hope this helps,

Harold.
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#3 Posted : 21 January 2023 18:24:09(UTC)
ocram63_uk

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the insulator is whitish :-(
Thank you
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Offline Crazy Harry  
#4 Posted : 21 January 2023 18:40:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
the insulator is whitish :-(
Thank you


Sorry, thought I had a definitive answer for you. Maybe the light green becomes whitish after use?

Cheers,

Harold.

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Offline ocram63_uk  
#5 Posted : 21 January 2023 18:49:35(UTC)
ocram63_uk

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Harold, thank you for your input. Maybe it was red and the constantly applied power changed the color to 'whitish'? Who knows :-)
Anyway I'll think about it when I'll get the new decoder.
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Offline bph  
#6 Posted : 21 January 2023 19:02:57(UTC)
bph

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perhaps a Märklin 72270 ? https://youtu.be/uoG26DNBdSw?t=60
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Offline einotuominen  
#7 Posted : 24 January 2023 12:27:01(UTC)
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I'm quite a newbie but here's my five cents. I have these with pink, red, white and light green insulators. I'm happy with the amount of smoke with all except the light green, which behaves really strangely and usually gives just a tiny amount of smoke.

However, and perhaps for that reason, the smoke fluid seems to last forever. All others consume it between 1-2 minutes, which is really sad in some way (however, I'm yet to configure the decoders for this, but I'm afraid it will be a poor compromise between amount of smoke and duration of how long until fluid depletes).

I drive digital.

So the five cents: Does it matter which one it is, if it works the way you'd expect? BigGrin

-Eino
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Offline marklinist5999  
#8 Posted : 24 January 2023 13:45:27(UTC)
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Doesn't matter which so much I have found over the years. Some are recomended for digital, but most use digital, and I don't think the insulator color has any meaning, but I may be wrong. I even have one analog Hamo D/C #8397 br 03 that won't smoke anymore. When I removed the smoke unit, and touched it to track power, it smokes. I don't see any broken wire, and the copper contact touches the smoke unit contact stub. Beats me.
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Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 24 January 2023 14:07:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
and I don't think the insulator color has any meaning
The manufacturer, Seuthe, documents the meaning of those colours.

Regards
Tom
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Offline bph  
#10 Posted : 24 January 2023 17:03:03(UTC)
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Offline 1borna  
#11 Posted : 24 January 2023 17:32:33(UTC)
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Often, in older models, oxidation occurs between the metal armor and the smoker, so there is no contact between them. Then you need to remove the smoker (it can be upwards without opening the model) and lightly sand the opening and the body of the smoker.
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