 Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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Good afternoon everybody, sun and warmth in Suffolk UK at last.
I have seen a 3148 train set coming up in an auction house close to me.
This set was a new entry in the 1960 catalogue.
Two things I would like to know:
1) do you know which digital retrofitting kit I would need to convert the 3048 loco of the set ?
2) It is missing one of the bogie side plates, part number 20392. I have downloaded the exploded part list and they use an old numbering scheme. I don't know if they have made a newer / revisited exploded diagram so that I can match the piece numbers on the eshop with what is on the diagram. Who knows which is the 'new' number ?
The set seems in good conditions but I'll have to go and have a closer look before the auction though.
The coaches are tin plate which I do not mind as it takes me back to my early Marklin train of 1976.
Thank you
Marco
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 Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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3048 had a LFCM motor so the motor kit you will need is 60944 - http://www.bahn.hfkern.de/Maerklin/Menue.html is where you can find that info out. When Marklin converted from 5 digit part numbers to 6 digit part numbers they simply added a zero to all the existing part numbers. 20392 therefore became 203920. Later Marklin added an 'E' in front of the numbers, so you are looking for E203920. 20392/203920 seems to be the entire tender chassis https://www.ebay.de/itm/...p2349526.m4383.l4275.c20Edited by user 02 June 2021 06:48:59(UTC)
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 Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  3048 had a LFCM motor so the motor kit you will need is 60944 - http://www.bahn.hfkern.de/Maerklin/Menue.html is where you can find that info out. When Marklin converted from 5 digit part numbers to 6 digit part numbers they simply added a zero to all the existing part numbers. 20392 therefore became 203920. Later Marklin added an 'E' in front of the numbers, so you are looking for E203920. 20392/203920 seems to be the entire tender chassis https://www.ebay.de/itm/...p2349526.m4383.l4275.c20 for Euro 10.00 I think its worth the money Edited by moderator 02 June 2021 06:49:13(UTC)
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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so I should get this piece from ebay even though I might not win the auction? At the end of the day it is 10 euros :-)
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Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,468 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk so I should get this piece from ebay even though I might not win the auction? At the end of the day it is 10 euros :-) yes, but note that it is a "buy it now" item and he has four available. Don't forget that ebay will add 20% VAT onto that automatically as it is coming from Europe. [edit] Oh hang on - if you translate the page it says "No Shipping to Great Britain". So you will need a friendly face in Europe to receive it for you and forward it on. you will still cop 20% at the border even if they post it as a gift, so keep any proof of purchase. [/edit]
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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i can have it sentto my son and he can wrap it up in a gift package and send it over. this is allowed with new Brexit rules found on HMRC web site 🙂
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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Thank you mvd71.
What is a 'sea biscuit'?
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Sorry, I was speaking American 😉
Was just trying to help guide to the correct parts for the loco. Hope I didn’t cause offence.
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Joined: 22/12/2019(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: New South Wales, Sydney
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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UPDATE. I won the 3184 set for 80 GBP. I already opened it up, cleaned the insides and boy o boy was it full of muck.
The gears all turn perfectly, I removed the rotor to clean it, the motor shield and the holes of the brushes with a pipe cleaner.
Checked all wiring before reassembling and powering up. The motor works perfectly in analogue, the direction change relais is of the first type, I guess, as it doesn't look like the one posted in the link posted by SvenM, #11
The loco does not have traction tyres and I'm ordering them. Do you confirm 7152 ?
I'm going to order the motor kit to convert it to DCC.
I need a new pick up shoe. Do you confirm that it is 7174 ?
Where could I find the screw that holds the pick up shoe? The code I have is 75602
The box is a bit knackered but it has a complete set of M tracks that have never been used. I use C track but while waiting for the pieces to arrive I can let the loco and the coaches run around :-)
I have only a problem with the engine rods, one is bent in two places and I'll have to find a way to fix it.parts, I was thinking on duplicating it with a cast of some sort.
Lets see how it goes.
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,994 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Hi Marco, these sheets may help, they are the original part numbers from this 1964 issue but a quick search usually gives the modern replacement     And the parts listing covering the 3048 from the 0733 Service Manual  Hope it helps Cookee |
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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Hi Cookee, thank you for your reply. I have ordered spares using the sheet you have posted. I had found it too weeks ago on Marklin's website.
Has anibody got the little booklet, that comes with each loco, of the 3048 to share ?
Thank you
Marco
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,994 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Hi Cookee, thank you for your reply. I have ordered spares using the sheet you have posted. I had found it too weeks ago on Marklin's website.
Has anibody got the little booklet, that comes with each loco, of the 3048 to share ?
Thank you
Marco If you use Facebook, ask on this group, https://www.facebook.com...s/2700378106888403/aboutLeon almost certainly has it, unless another member here has one to scan? |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz .....unless another member here has one to scan?  3048.pdf (10,612kb) downloaded 186 time(s).
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Marco, do you have any pictures of your set? Here's one of my 3148 set  I've since replaced the blue first class coach (not part of the original 3148 set as advertised) with the proper green 2nd class coach. Edited by user 21 June 2021 05:30:43(UTC)
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Those sets always looked so good. the artwork from that era is fantastic!
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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Hi Bigdaddy, thank you for the booklet, very interesting. My set is from 1963 as can be found at post #36, https://www.marklin-user...overhaul--with-pictures, by 'intruder' where he says: If your tender is marked 3026 it was made in 1960 or 1961, if the tender is marked 3048 it was made in 1962 or 1963. - From 1964 the locomotive had vertical rods next to the front lamps, otherwise like the 62/63-version. - From 1965 the text on the locomotive and on the tender was printed. - In 1972 the front bogie wheels got nine spokes and no more Märklin logo on the cylinders. 1972 was the last year of production. My 3148 set is as old as me :-) Tender marked 3048 and this puts it at 1962/63 - Tender is not metal, it is some sort of plastic which I think is bakelite In front of the front lamps I have metal arches which puts it at 1962/63 The box is 1/4 missing the artwork The cooaches are all green with the speisewagen in maroon (like yours) I will post pictures as soon as I take them. The set is assembled on the floor and working perfectly. I haven't used the smoke generator yet It surely is a pleasure to have something analog again that works flawlesly.
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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out of curiosity, running the loco without traction tyres could damage the wheel's slots or not ?
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk out of curiosity, running the loco without traction tyres could damage the wheel's slots or not ? Yes, you can damage the tire grooves by running without tires. The outer lip will get rounded off to the point where the tires will no longer stay on. |
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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I ordered the replacement bogey sunday from Germany and it arrived today, no extra duties to pay.
I tried to unscrew the screw holding the present one in place but it doesn't budge. I sprayed some WD-40 on it and hope it will losen up.
Have you folks got any suggestions on how to unscrew it?
Thank you
Marco
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