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Offline ajayrav  
#1 Posted : 18 May 2020 17:50:26(UTC)
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So the instruction manuals suggest oiling the wheel axles. Wouldn't that affect pickup from the contacts; or is the oil to be used conductive?

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Offline Carim  
#2 Posted : 18 May 2020 21:43:56(UTC)
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The operating manuals that I have seen, suggest that one oils the gear on the axel and not the axel itself.

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Offline ajayrav  
#3 Posted : 18 May 2020 23:24:11(UTC)
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Carim, that would make sense. but if you look at the manuals for 81352 BR80 or 88771 V36 they have 6 arrows for oil one on either side of each axle.

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Ajay
Offline Zme  
#4 Posted : 18 May 2020 23:46:13(UTC)
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Hey guys

You are right, the steamers tend to have the lower cover plate closed in. No gears are visible. The exception is the br 89 and perhaps others. Since this is the way it is, I expect, drops are added at each axle and it must be drawn into the gearbox from there.

Getting back to the original question. It might depend on which oil is being used. I use Labelle’s. On the insert provided with their product, it says the 107 and 108 oils are excellent electrical conductors. It goes on to say that locos may run better if the oil was applied to the rails.

I have never tried this suggestion on the rails

Best wishes.

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Offline Carim  
#5 Posted : 19 May 2020 11:32:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ajayrav Go to Quoted Post
.... but if you look at the manuals for 81352 BR80 or 88771 V36 they have 6 arrows for oil one on either side of each axle.


I don't have these models, but from the V36 manual it looks like there are gears directly behind the wheels and the arrows seem to pont to them. I agree the BR80 manual looks rather vague.

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Offline ajayrav  
#6 Posted : 21 May 2020 19:24:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Carim Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: ajayrav Go to Quoted Post
.... but if you look at the manuals for 81352 BR80 or 88771 V36 they have 6 arrows for oil one on either side of each axle.


I don't have these models, but from the V36 manual it looks like there are gears directly behind the wheels and the arrows seem to pont to them. I agree the BR80 manual looks rather vague.

Carim


Actually, I did open the V36 up.... the gears are centrally located, there are no gears directly behind the wheels. What makes sense is the oil used is conductive and lubricates as well....

Thanks,
Ajay

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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#7 Posted : 21 May 2020 22:28:17(UTC)
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A tip which some people might find useful, is that the Labelle 108 bottle has a standard syringe fitting, so you can fit a very fine blunt syringe needle (I bought a bag of 100 30 gauge needles, on ebay for a couple of pounds) for very precise dispensing of oil.

That said, a couple of recent purchases I've made seem to have been absolutely flooded with oil, so Marklin's idea of "sparingly" is obviously quite different from mine!

Hope this is of help.


Chris
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