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Offline pclancy  
#1 Posted : 19 March 2020 18:29:19(UTC)
pclancy

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Location: District of Columbia, Washington
Dear Marklin savants:

I am a novice when it comes to Marklin. Now that we are in Covid 19 lock down mode, I am playing with my train set as a means of passing the time. I come asking for help.

I have assembled a simple analogue layout. Two switches. In this case using C track (but I have M track as well thanks to one of you). Please help me with the following.

1) I have a brand new (I thought) 3003 Locomotive. It lights up but does not move. I have the manual and find it poorly written. I assume it needs oil, but am unsure how to oil it. I have Labelle 107 lubricating oil.

The manual gives lubricating instructions for the wheels, but I am unsure of where exactly to place the oil. Inside the wheels on the metal gears? And on the other side, where do I place the oil? There are no little metal gears that I can see.

The manual also says to put 1-2 drops of oil in a little black thing that looks like a coal hamper, but I have no idea where that is. I took the top off.....and am faraid to take too much more part for fear that I end up breaking something.

If the problem is not lubrication, what could be the problem? I cannot turn the wheels by hand...they seem frozen.

2) I have another locomotive....about 40 years old. It runs easily but derails at every C track switch. What could this problem be?

3) I ordered new switch motors for my C track, and tried my best to wire them to my little blue push button controller. Yellow from the switch to yellow on the transformer. Two wires from the switch to the controller and brown from the controller to the transformer. The switch buzzes and moves in one direction but not the other. What am I doing wrong?

4) Is there a diagram anywhere that shows one how to make an extremely simple set of connections from 2 switches to I guess a splitter and then to a controller and from there to a transformer?

I find wiring Marklin maddening. Help!

Thanks

Peter Clancy
Offline DaleSchultz  
#2 Posted : 19 March 2020 19:50:52(UTC)
DaleSchultz

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frozen loco probably needs to have old dry oil cleaned out. Motor needs to be taken apart and the rotor and gears cleaned. Then re-lubed (Labelle is fine) and reassembled. Search this group for instructions on servicing a loco.

Dont try to move the wheel if the motor is locked up.
Dale
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Offline Martti Mäntylä  
#3 Posted : 19 March 2020 20:40:54(UTC)
Martti Mäntylä

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Joined: 15/11/2018(UTC)
Posts: 145
Location: Uusimaa, Helsinki
As to your item (1), what Dale said.

For item (2), you can check the spacings of the wheels of the locomotive. The distance between the inner flanges of the wheels should be 13.8 mm. Also check the current pickup shoe to see if it's twisted or too high.

For (3), sounds like you are doing the right thing. Try first to isolate the problem. What happens if you swap the red and green wires in the blue control box? What happens if you operate the switch motor outside the switch?

Also re-examine that the cables from the switch motor are properly inserted in the connecting plugs: the cables are quite thin, and it is easy to get this wrong.
- Martti M.
Era III analog & digital (Rocrail, CAN Digital Bahn, Gleisbox/MS2, K83/K84), C & M tracks, some Spur 1
Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 20 March 2020 00:32:53(UTC)
river6109

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Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
Before going into overdrive where did you buy this loco and what's the history, it may be a seized motor but it also can be the wiring is not right, you could try and put 2 wires to the motor (but not permanently) and see if there is any noise coming from., also a multi meter could be handy to see if there is contact from the slider to the motor., all suggestions are above are also vital.

John
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Offline pclancy  
#5 Posted : 20 March 2020 18:26:42(UTC)
pclancy

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Joined: 04/01/2020(UTC)
Posts: 16
Location: District of Columbia, Washington
Thanks all. Will work on your suggestions and report back. The 3003 Loco was purchased on Ebay used. $58. Advertised in mint condition, but the seller was careful to note it had not been tested. The box was mint, that's for sure. Anyway, no big deal. I'll get her sorted one way or the other.
Offline TEEWolf  
#6 Posted : 20 March 2020 22:02:01(UTC)
TEEWolf


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Posts: 2,406
Originally Posted by: pclancy Go to Quoted Post
Dear Marklin savants:

I am a novice when it comes to Marklin. Now that we are in Covid 19 lock down mode, I am playing with my train set as a means of passing the time. I come asking for help.

I have assembled a simple analogue layout. Two switches. In this case using C track (but I have M track as well thanks to one of you). Please help me with the following.

1) I have a brand new (I thought) 3003 Locomotive. It lights up but does not move. I have the manual and find it poorly written. I assume it needs oil, but am unsure how to oil it. I have Labelle 107 lubricating oil.

The manual gives lubricating instructions for the wheels, but I am unsure of where exactly to place the oil. Inside the wheels on the metal gears? And on the other side, where do I place the oil? There are no little metal gears that I can see.

The manual also says to put 1-2 drops of oil in a little black thing that looks like a coal hamper, but I have no idea where that is. I took the top off.....and am faraid to take too much more part for fear that I end up breaking something.

If the problem is not lubrication, what could be the problem? I cannot turn the wheels by hand...they seem frozen.

2) I have another locomotive....about 40 years old. It runs easily but derails at every C track switch. What could this problem be?

3) I ordered new switch motors for my C track, and tried my best to wire them to my little blue push button controller. Yellow from the switch to yellow on the transformer. Two wires from the switch to the controller and brown from the controller to the transformer. The switch buzzes and moves in one direction but not the other. What am I doing wrong?

4) Is there a diagram anywhere that shows one how to make an extremely simple set of connections from 2 switches to I guess a splitter and then to a controller and from there to a transformer?

I find wiring Marklin maddening. Help!

Thanks

Peter Clancy


A bit more than the manual
Maerklin Service Manual.pdf (14,566kb) downloaded 405 time(s). instrucciones_caja_iniciacionlow.pdf (12,683kb) downloaded 52 time(s). Marklin Digital fur Einsteiger.pdf (11,665kb) downloaded 69 time(s). Maerklin C-track -Quadratur des Kreises-.pdf (3,424kb) downloaded 135 time(s).
https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/24951/
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