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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 22 July 2019 11:12:30(UTC)
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Marklin fall new items now download PDF brochure.

Download PDF

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#2 Posted : 24 July 2019 01:54:19(UTC)
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Marklin fall new items will be announced with a live/online event while our IMA days in September.

I have a question for you Steven, especially since you seem so qualified to supply us with the correct answers to the mysteries of Märklin. BigGrin

When watching the latest Märklin TV episode I could not help but notice that they implied that an HO model of the latest advertising loco - series 101-64 --just might make a surprise appearance at some time in the future. In their oh so Germanic way, did they just tell us what the fall surprise loco will be at this year's IMA?

It will no doubt make an appearance during the IMA and an HO model of it would make a very nice fall surprise loco for 2019.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
Offline MaerklinLife  
#3 Posted : 24 July 2019 05:51:07(UTC)
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I don't know about surprise, but they did announce a model of it. It is already on the home page.

https://www.maerklin.de/...pdb_pi1%5Bsearchres%5D=1

Unfortunately still with the old noisy motor. It would have been a great opportunity to announce an upgraded version with center motor etc.

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#4 Posted : 24 July 2019 12:37:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Go to Quoted Post
I don't know about surprise, but they did announce a model of it. It is already on the home page.

Unfortunately still with the old noisy motor. It would have been a great opportunity to announce an upgraded version with center motor etc.


I obviously missed that! Maybe not changing the motor is the surprise. BigGrin
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline danmarklinman  
#5 Posted : 17 August 2019 13:00:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Go to Quoted Post
I don't know about surprise, but they did announce a model of it. It is already on the home page.

Unfortunately still with the old noisy motor. It would have been a great opportunity to announce an upgraded version with center motor etc.


I obviously missed that! Maybe not changing the motor is the surprise. BigGrin


I like these old motorsBigGrin if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. You never get any problems with these on double slips👍
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#6 Posted : 17 August 2019 13:23:22(UTC)
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I like these old motorsBigGrin if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. You never get any problems with these on double slips👍

I agree!

In general I find that if the old tech motors are properly maintained they really are not that noisy and they are strong and smooth with new electronics. I have rebuilt some DCM powered locos when I upgraded their decoders and they are virtually as quiet as most of the can motor locos I have.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#7 Posted : 17 August 2019 13:41:32(UTC)
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Plus DCM motors are easier to get parts for and fix.....
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#8 Posted : 17 August 2019 14:20:10(UTC)
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Plus DCM motors are easier to get parts for and fix.....


Very true. I rebuilt the motors in my 20 year old California Zephyr F7's last year when I installed an mSD/3 decoder in that loco set. The parts were so readily available and inexpensive that I just replaced the rotor and brush shields in both motors to be on the safe side and now it runs better than a similar set (SF Super Chief) with almost no hours on it yet. And when I run just that train without loco sounds the coaches make as much noise as two of the "coffee grinder" motors do, which is the biggest complaint that I hear about the old style motors.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline RayF  
#9 Posted : 18 August 2019 00:30:54(UTC)
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I'm sorry, but I think you guys are crazy! There's no comparison between the old noisy rough DCM and the new can motors. If you're very lucky you might get the DCM motor to be almost as quiet as a can motor, but the gears will always be way more noisy!



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#10 Posted : 18 August 2019 00:48:19(UTC)
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I'm sorry, but I think you guys are crazy! There's no comparison between the old noisy rough DCM and the new can motors. If you're very lucky you might get the DCM motor to be almost as quiet as a can motor, but the gears will always be way more noisy!





Not really the motors. It’s the straight cut gearing......
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#11 Posted : 18 August 2019 01:20:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Plus DCM motors are easier to get parts for and fix.....


I have to agree on this. And while I love the concept of the sine motors and the fact that we are able to retain an AC motor with this and still have exceptionally quite running, the reality is that a Faulhaber or Maxxon motor can give running qualities that are almost identical without the need for special electronics to drive the motor.

Additionally, having just repaired a SDS loco and discovered that my dealer has had to send plenty of these locos back to the factory for the driver board to be replaced I feel that the issue of maintenance if very real, and the old DCM wins every day on that front.

Cheers....

Mike.

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#12 Posted : 18 August 2019 01:24:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mrmarklin Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I'm sorry, but I think you guys are crazy! There's no comparison between the old noisy rough DCM and the new can motors. If you're very lucky you might get the DCM motor to be almost as quiet as a can motor, but the gears will always be way more noisy!





Not really the motors. It’s the straight cut gearing......


I don't agree.

Yes straight cut gears produce more noise than helical gears or worm gears. But the original C-sine motors used the straight gears and they were very quiet. That leads me to believe that most of the noise was generated by the motor.

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#13 Posted : 18 August 2019 01:50:53(UTC)
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I'm sorry, but I think you guys are crazy! There's no comparison between the old noisy rough DCM and the new can motors. If you're very lucky you might get the DCM motor to be almost as quiet as a can motor, but the gears will always be way more noisy!


Well I mostly agree, but maybe not on the crazy part - we all have our off days after all. BigGrin

The drivetrains are noisy but to me in a pleasant mechanical way - the poor man's sound back in the day. Cool As I recall a real locomotive is pretty loud anyway, no matter the type, so it fits. BigGrin

And it is all of that gearing which allows a small, high speed motor to power a loco at HO scale speeds and to provide such good, strong torque. These are motors which can be used indefinitely as long as they are properly maintained. We all know that is not true of inexpensive can motors, like those in most of my newer locos. They are quiet, smooth, strong and fast - so there is nothing not to love, well except the sure knowledge that they will fail and can't be maintained or repaired. ThumbDown

So at one time I thought that DCMs were hopelessly out of date and that I should avoid them if possible. But then I went on to buy a number of very nice locos with one or two DCMs and they are amazingly strong and smooth with load regulating decoders. I have never seen any HO train run as beautifully as my VT 11.5 Helvetia does, although regular maintenance is required for reliable operation. Since I enjoy that part I don't mind but I do see how others might.

My can motor locos are all young with very few hours and I have had only one motor failure and that was in an ESU Engineering Edition loco! That was the most beautiful motor that I have ever seen in HO scale and it even had replaceable brushes and could be opened for service. That was good news because in the US I have no warranty on ESU locos since they are not officially sold here. But the bit about being able to service it worked out for me and it now has its hung brush fixed, its commutator turned (thanks Matt!) and is running great.

I just thought that it was ironic that the first post 2014 loco of mine to fail was the one filled with the highest attention to engineering detail and the most expensive looking components. With today's hardware it is always a crap shoot in my experience but this one should definitely have run more than one or two hours. By looks alone it should have run a lot longer than my Märklin motors, with so many machined metal bits in the ESU motor, rather than the cheap stamped steel parts in many different model lines. At least it was designed to be repaired and it is a beautiful model and I love it. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline danmarklinman  
#14 Posted : 20 August 2019 19:55:23(UTC)
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Fall new items according to Märklin on instagram will be up on the 13 September at 15.00👍
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#15 Posted : 20 August 2019 22:47:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Fall new items according to Märklin on instagram will be up on the 13 September at 15.00👍


Yeah, thats what we have been talking about over here.
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#16 Posted : 21 August 2019 20:57:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Fall new items according to Märklin on instagram will be up on the 13 September at 15.00👍


German or English?
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#17 Posted : 21 August 2019 21:06:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Fall new items according to Märklin on instagram will be up on the 13 September at 15.00👍


German or English?


Probably Denglish.BigGrin
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Offline danmarklinman  
#18 Posted : 22 August 2019 08:44:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Fall new items according to Märklin on instagram will be up on the 13 September at 15.00👍


German or English?


English I think, I’m assuming that. As it was in English Mellow
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#19 Posted : 23 August 2019 00:57:09(UTC)
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English I think, I’m assuming that. As it was in English Mellow


That would be nice, and even if it is not, we should see what they have to offer us this Fall, very soon after that.

I'm particularly keen to see what the fall surprise loco will be this year. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline Crazy Harry  
#20 Posted : 24 August 2019 20:42:23(UTC)
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I think the online fall new items reveal will be live in German. An English translation/overdub may come a little later.

Remember September 13 at 15:00 is 3pm Central European Summer Time!

Harold.
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Offline steventrain  
#21 Posted : 28 August 2019 21:52:11(UTC)
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Marklin for Eurotrain news.

47913 Four-axle heavy oil tank car with brakeman's platform. Private car of the BP gasoline and petroleum GmbH, Hamburg, employed by the Deutsche Bundesbahn (DB). Operating condition around 1957.

48696 Stake car Kbs 443 with Loaded with a military transport tank M113 of the German Federal Armed Forces as a vehicle with marking Red Cross. With vehicle mounts. Military vehicle largely made of metal. Model of the military vehicle of Schuco. Length over buffer of stake car 15,7 cm.

5875924363605ed8298c1003129635281564725622.jpgfebaae651345ab01299151b4d8cdecc41566972006.jpg
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#22 Posted : 01 September 2019 13:51:59(UTC)
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More news, from the w13 consortium ...

This has to be a loco for the Grandkids ...

Marklin 37000.001 or the Trix 22820.001

Translated by Google, from the Modellbahn-Kramm email: -
"Prototype: As a fan of the rock band BONFIRE, Hubert Teichmann, managing director of the Staudenbahn from Augsburg, had a special idea. The 212 311-5 became a BONFIRE locomotive with an extravagant design. The band also used the 212 for rides to various performances. The combination of a popular traditional locomotive and the special fire design, makes this locomotive a real eye-catcher and the models to unique collectibles, track H0 / (DC for Trix, AC for Marklin).
(w13 exclusive model)"
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Offline steventrain  
#23 Posted : 01 September 2019 18:59:39(UTC)
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More news, from the w13 consortium ...

This has to be a loco for the Grandkids ...

Marklin 37000.001 or the Trix 22820.001



Marlin version limited to 500 pieces and Trix 200 pieces.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#24 Posted : 02 September 2019 15:48:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
More news, from the w13 consortium ...

This has to be a loco for the Grandkids ...

Marklin 37000.001 or the Trix 22820.001



Marlin version limited to 500 pieces and Trix 200 pieces.



Another email from Modellbahn Kramm confirms these numbers.

Also looks like the locos have already been shipped from the factory ...

Bonfire Locos.jpg

... so get your order in now ...

Offline vilithejou  
#25 Posted : 02 September 2019 22:54:32(UTC)
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Surprise lok is a S 3/6 3624 Ep I

https://www.facebook.com...malink/2627449103940773/

Thanks Carlos Madrigal
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Offline Goofy  
#26 Posted : 03 September 2019 07:01:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Surprise lok is a S 3/6 3624 Ep I

https://www.facebook.com...malink/2627449103940773/

Thanks Carlos Madrigal


There is no longer pictures.
It was not allowed to post this information.
DCC means Digital Command Control.

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#27 Posted : 03 September 2019 07:05:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Surprise lok is a S 3/6 3624 Ep I

https://www.facebook.com...malink/2627449103940773/

Thanks Carlos Madrigal


There is no longer pictures.
It was not allowed to post this information.


I know and i have the photos from another shop... The information says that the official news have to due out today
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#28 Posted : 03 September 2019 08:09:43(UTC)
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Really? I thought it was 13th September.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#29 Posted : 03 September 2019 09:42:06(UTC)
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Really? I thought it was 13th September.


That is for the Autumn New Items, the surprise loco may be different.

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#30 Posted : 03 September 2019 11:12:03(UTC)
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And just now an email from Marklin confirming the S3/6 as the surprise loco ...

And it includes a link to follow.

[edit]

The prospect leaflets are also up for Marklin and for Trix. They show a baggage wagon and two coaches to go with the loco, which appear to be re-issues with new car numbers, at Euro 69.99 each.
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#31 Posted : 03 September 2019 11:23:39(UTC)
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And just now an email from Marklin confirming the S3/6 as the surprise loco ...

And it includes a link to follow.



Price under 600 euro
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#32 Posted : 03 September 2019 13:31:37(UTC)
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I might look at ordering 3x K.Bay.Sts.B S3/6
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#33 Posted : 03 September 2019 17:57:07(UTC)
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I am probably missing something as I don't understadn the price.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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#34 Posted : 03 September 2019 18:12:22(UTC)
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I am probably missing something as I don't understadn the price.


The loco is Euro 589.99 and the coaches Euro 69.99 each. See the pamphlet linked in my previous post for details. Where is the confusion?
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#35 Posted : 03 September 2019 18:21:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

I am probably missing something as I don't understadn the price.


The loco is Euro 589.99 and the coaches Euro 69.99 each. See the pamphlet linked in my previous post for details. Where is the confusion?


I saw it and there is no confusion. I only think the price is too high as I see nothing special in the locomotive except a little more detail in painting compared to to BR 18.5s. The level of detail and painting seems compareable to the S2/6s and the price is of this is higher.



Mostly Märklin H0.


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#36 Posted : 03 September 2019 18:48:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

I am probably missing something as I don't understadn the price.


The loco is Euro 589.99 and the coaches Euro 69.99 each. See the pamphlet linked in my previous post for details. Where is the confusion?


I saw it and there is no confusion. I only think the price is too high as I see nothing special in the locomotive except a little more detail in painting compared to to BR 18.5s. The level of detail and painting seems compareable to the S2/6s and the price is of this is higher.


Well, it is all new tooling, which means a new price BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
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#37 Posted : 03 September 2019 19:02:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

I am probably missing something as I don't understadn the price.


The loco is Euro 589.99 and the coaches Euro 69.99 each. See the pamphlet linked in my previous post for details. Where is the confusion?


I saw it and there is no confusion. I only think the price is too high as I see nothing special in the locomotive except a little more detail in painting compared to to BR 18.5s. The level of detail and painting seems compareable to the S2/6s and the price is of this is higher.



Interesting that sound functions are not mentioned on the brochure or website. The typical sound icon is there in the model details but no mention of sound effects in any of the text. Seems a bit odd for Marklin.
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#38 Posted : 04 September 2019 01:09:08(UTC)
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I saw it and there is no confusion. I only think the price is too high as I see nothing special in the locomotive except a little more detail in painting compared to to BR 18.5s. The level of detail and painting seems comparable to the S2/6s and the price is of this is higher.


Well for one thing the S 2/6 was from four years ago and would cost more if it were being made today. I bought mine when it was nearly two years old and I paid almost this much for it, so IMO it is worth that price. Whether I can justify another super detailed, expensive loco is a different matter though and I am still on the fence about getting this one. They are beautiful when on display but a lot of that is lost on an HO layout, where much more simple locos look great while happily running alongside these oh, so expensive beasts. BigGrin

My S 2/6 and 241-A-65 are so amazingly well detailed and finished that I expect that this one will have to be as well. But of course that necessarily means they are not made by Märklin and no doubt are made in China, which is not a problem for me. My two expensive Chinese locos are perfect with not a single defect in assembly or operation and they do contain many Märklin parts. Every automaker currently assembles cars and trucks in multiple factories around the world to keep prices in check. If MRRing wants to exist in the future, it had better get with the program, which I believe Märklin is actually doing quite well on right now.

Märklin's most recent high quality level and high price locos have sold out very quickly, so there is no pressure on them to hold down the price that I can see. In fact the higher they set the price the more quickly they often sell out.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline applor  
#39 Posted : 04 September 2019 04:51:33(UTC)
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Interesting Marklin decided to include the top (3rd) lights front and rear on an epoch I model.

I wonder if they'll get customer complaints they don't light up...
modelling 1954 Germany (era IIIa)
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#40 Posted : 04 September 2019 14:13:32(UTC)
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The Märklin Video

in German



Costas
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#41 Posted : 04 September 2019 15:11:27(UTC)
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The side rods not dark seems to be the new trend for the M top steam models. I would prefer dark side rods.
Despite that and the price, the model is very tempting.

We will see several liveries of this model. I hope the Ep. II will have golden stripes in the boiler and preferably the red and white stripes in the chimney.
I wonder if this locomotive worked also in Pfalzbahn, so a brownish red version will be available in the future.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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#42 Posted : 05 September 2019 00:31:07(UTC)
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Hello all
a member of a private facebook maerklin group found that almost the same loco ( minor details seems to be different ) was presented as 2009 Trix novelty, item 22040 and later cancelled due tp insolvency.
Also was presented an era II version, i think we can expect also that in the near future.
Regards
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#43 Posted : 05 September 2019 00:56:22(UTC)
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I like the idea of an era II version which would no doubt look nicer but also gives me a good reason to pass on this one. ThumpUp

And the coaches, while beautiful still don't come with any good provisions for interior lighting. I was amused that Märklin's listing for the coaches shows Trix lighting sets that they don't even make anymore.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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#44 Posted : 05 September 2019 01:08:39(UTC)
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Hi
Well the coaches has the same part number of one issued a couple of years ago.
At that moment i bought them for my S2/6, so no coaches for me this time
Regards
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#45 Posted : 05 September 2019 01:13:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hi
Well the coaches has the same part number of one issued a couple of years ago.
At that moment i bought them for my S2/6, so no coaches for me this time
Regards


Same here and I still have not gotten around to lighting the ones I bought for my S 2/6! I guess I could buy just the S 3/6 and let it share those coaches with the S 2/6.

That seems to be the surprise these days - just like with the 241 they introduce a beautiful loco without any good coaches for it to haul.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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#46 Posted : 05 September 2019 01:16:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
The Märklin Video

in German



Costas


From the movie saw the CAD design , the inner cylinder
which is connected to the second driving wheel by rod seems to be able to activate.

IMG_20190904_184453.jpg

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#47 Posted : 05 September 2019 01:20:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hello all
a member of a private facebook maerklin group found that almost the same loco ( minor details seems to be different ) was presented as 2009 Trix novelty, item 22040 and later cancelled due tp insolvency.
Also was presented an era II version, i think we can expect also that in the near future.
Regards


But Märklin says in its video extra # 28 (see post #40)

it is the 18.4 with extra high wheels. The normal 18.4 had 1,87 meter high driving wheels. This model is one of the 18.4 with 2,0 meter high driving wheels. This is the reason why the loco is called class "S 3/6 high heels" (Laugh not really - Maerklin says the "high stepper"). The nickname is "Die Hochhaxige". Further Märklin says it is first time they did an exact reconstruction of the Bavarian Schlepptender, which they never have had before. So the complete loco is a complete new construction. So far Märklin telling us in its new video about the new loco 39436.
The last original piece of this S 3/6 "Hochhaxige" shall be for viewing in the "Deutsche Museum" in Munich available.

CS 3 is a controller system from Märklin - not a central station.
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Offline franciscohg  
#48 Posted : 05 September 2019 01:40:26(UTC)
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https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Trix/22040.aspx

Here you can see the description of the Trix 22040
It is the same loco and of course it is new tooling since this one was cancelled.
Thing is that perhaps this new tooling began its development around 10 years ago...lol
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Offline shannon  
#49 Posted : 05 September 2019 01:57:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Trix/22040.aspx

Here you can see the description of the Trix 22040
It is the same loco and of course it is new tooling since this one was cancelled.
Thing is that perhaps this new tooling began its development around 10 years ago...lol
Regards


I assumed it is not the same as Marklin 39436, which was made of plastic and tender drive.
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#50 Posted : 05 September 2019 02:23:59(UTC)
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Nop, but if you have some sketches and/or some CAD drawings in the bottom of a box for 10 years, one can think that somebody wants to find some use for them.
It is impossible that it is the same model, mainly because the other one was never constructed.
Regards
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