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DOus any one have knowledge if M ever made passenger carriages to go with the Amtrak F7 loks??
ALso next question anyone with knowledge of the Athern?
Quality and suitability of running on C track, DO they have interiors and can lighting be fitted. Length of Carriages approx 2505mm roof edge to roof edge. Also any coupler or wheel problems or changes to run on C track
Amtrak HO scale silver passenger carriages. ( 1 diner and 1 coach). Manufactured by Athearn
I have a chance to get these if they are any good. (On Ebay)
Thanks.
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Hello Nev,
You have the set 43600 with 6 coaches: baggage, diner, sleeper, coach, vista-dome and end-observation car. All of them full metal (aluminum) and with interior and lights but shorter than the real scale.
The Athearn ones, apart from being plastic, don't have interiors. They are lots simpler than Marklin. I don't think they are real scale, but they are longer than the Marklin ones.
About running caracteristics and custom changes, the specialist here is Pierre, but it will depend with what wheels are installed and also the radius you have on your lay-out. Think that american brands coaches (i.e. Walthers) need at least R3.
Then, it will depend on the price of these carriages, but if you already have the F7's, I would go for the Marklin set.
Santi
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I have these wagons and are very good,they have lights,and interior details,they are very good,i am satisfied.I believe i have posted an image with them at my layout section.
They do not have the standard couplers,and i am not 100% satisfied but they do work ok. |
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Hello Nev, I have never tried Athearn passenger cars so I can't be of help for this brand. You may find information about Walthers' cars on my website and my comments about Rapido Trains' cars on this forum. I hope this will be of use. Pierre.
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Thanks, Santi, Alonso and Pierre,
THink I will give the Athern cars a Miss.
All I need to do is locate a Set of the M Cars, 43600.
Any clues, ??
Thanks again for pointing me in the correct direction. May have to check out rapido to see if they have Amtrac cars.
Nev
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Thank u John  .These are very nice wagons  ...I like them  . |
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I don't think the athearn coaches have interiors. some of the walthers ones do, especially the more recent cars, but I'm not sure about the Budd or sort of tubular profile cars that used to run so much around here.
I would say go for the walthers amtrak coaches before the athearn
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Nikos, They look beautiful, definately have to get them, If I can find a set.
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Who are the better Used Marklin dealers?
Will appreciate a list.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn
<br />I don't think the athearn coaches have interiors. some of the walthers ones do, especially the more recent cars, but I'm not sure about the Budd or sort of tubular profile cars that used to run so much around here.
I would say go for the walthers amtrak coaches before the athearn
I think those would probably be Amfleet coaches - I'm not 100% sure but I think Amtrak had retired the F units before they turned up. If you do want to use them, Walthers make an excellent Amfleet 2 but the paintwork on their Amfleet 1 isn't as good (unless they've upgraded it recently - not as good a "stainless steel" finish as the Amfleet 2). Bachmann make an Amfleet 1 that has a better finish. It's also worth bearing in mind that the Bachmann car is probably designed for "trainset" curves while the Walthers models might have problems on tighter curves. For older stock, I would say to go with the Walthers cars. They really are beautiful models. Only snag is that they will not run around a tight curve. |
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Have just locateed and ordered the Marklin Set.
thanks Jeremy.
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Set arrived this morning 28 Dec. 14 days from Dealer to me with our Post office having a 4 day break. So not bad. THey look Magnificent. Photos later. Nev  |
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Beautiful set ! It looks immaculate. Have fun, now !
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by PierreGILLARD
<br />Beautiful set ! It looks immaculate. Have fun, now !
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Pierre, They are immaculate. Sliders show some running but no other signs of being used. I will enjoy. Being so long a train I will need a longer table. FD has other ideas. [:(] Nev |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />Well done Nev!!!
Thanks Nikos, Have just taken them out of the box and given them a small run. Later I will change from the Marklin Drawbar type CC Couplings to the RTS CC couplings. Will make it easier to set up. Nev |
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Congratulations Nevw!
This set is.... a marvel!rare(today) & nice Aluminium design + nice interiors settings + lights....
I got one too.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by nevw<br />(...) Being so long a train I will need a longer table. FD has other ideas. [:(] Nev ... A new house to put a even longer table ? Pierre.
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Congrats! What a set [:p] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by PierreGILLARD<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by nevw<br />(...) Being so long a train I will need a longer table. FD has other ideas. [:(] Nev ... A new house to put a even longer table ? Pierre. Not so drastic Pierre, I am in negotiations with the House Director to use a larger bedroom or sell one car and use the garage space that the sale will free up. Approx 6 m X 4 M. Not having much luck in either choice, so stuck with what I have. [:(] BUT can always go higher. Nev |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />(...) ... use the garage space that the sale will free up. (...)
Nev
I suppose that the money get from the sale of the car must be de facto re-invested in Märklin equipment !  Pierre.
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Off Course. Is there a better way to remove surplus cash???[:p][:p][}:)]
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Congrats Nev! Very nice set [:p] I can highly recommend the new current conducting couplers (except for the price tag - 10 € a set here [xx(]). I just installed them on my Cal. Zephyr set and the they work nicely |
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  Sorry for the bad quality |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pserup<br />Congrats Nev! Very nice set [:p] I can highly recommend the new current conducting couplers (except for the price tag - 10 € a set here [xx(]). I just installed them on my Cal. Zephyr set and the they work nicely Palle, I am using the RTS CC Couplers on all of the Cars with Lights, have had no problems. Less Cost also. Nev |
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They Look Very good alonso Here are some Photos of Mine. Nev    Edited at: by moderator 11 January 2011 09:41:35(UTC)
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Very nice Nev,you have a very nice board layout. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />Very nice Nev,you have a very nice board layout.
Thanks Alonso but Too Small. [V] I want at least one Metre More but cannot get it. GOing to a Second Level but will still be restricted by a Length of 2.1 Metres. [:(!] Nev |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Congratulations Nev! You've done a really good purchase and deal. About your space, well, having more place in your garage (and cash for Marklin investment) is a good idea. But remember: The more place you have, the more you want to spend on it! Don't tell this to your House Director, this is for your information only! [:p] Santi
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Wow,thanks for sharing the pictures. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Going to a Second Level but will still be restricted by a Length of 2.1 Metres [:(!] Never mind, my friend - same goes for mine [xx(] With a poor 2.0 metres x 1,40 metres of ground space going upward was my only ticket. But in the end I've managed to pack tons of C-track into that micro layout ... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Santi<br />Congratulations Nev! You've done a really good purchase and deal. About your space, well, having more place in your garage (and cash for Marklin investment) is a good idea. But remember: The more place you have, the more you want to spend on it! Don't tell this to your House Director, this is for your information only! [:p] Santi It is Ok Santi, I can buy what I like within reason. SO no problems there. I have stopped the Buying for a while (Untill I see something that I MUST Have) as I have a lot sitting in Boxes as No where to run, Have to go through a major packing and unpacking exercise every now and then. Nev |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Going to a Second Level but will still be restricted by a Length of 2.1 Metres [:(!] Never mind, my friend - same goes for mine [xx(] With a poor 2.0 metres x 1,40 metres of ground space going upward was my only ticket. But in the end I've managed to pack tons of C-track into that micro layout ... John when it comes to making the best of a small area, you are my inspiration. [:p] Nev |
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Hi Nev and all fellow forum members,
A happy, healthy and prosperous New Year to all. In the new year may
all new M products be as good as #'s 37605 and 37606.
Nev, the coaches look great - well done. Glad the tip off worked.
Cheers from Barbados all!!
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