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Offline Carim  
#1 Posted : 26 March 2019 15:08:43(UTC)
Carim

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Hi,

I have a few carriages (8724, 8725 & 8726) that I bought in the 1980s and they have plastic wheels. I want to replace them with metal wheels. Can anbody tell me what the difference is between spare part E700810 Radsatz UG Z-SP (V,VN) and spare part E215721 Radsatz VNS ?

Many thanks,
Carim
Offline zscalehobo  
#2 Posted : 26 March 2019 19:00:05(UTC)
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700810 is polished metal wheels. 215721 is blackened metal.

Frank Daniels
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Offline Carim  
#3 Posted : 26 March 2019 19:45:32(UTC)
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Thank you for that info Frank.

Carim
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#4 Posted : 29 March 2019 20:25:38(UTC)
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I wish I could offer some suggestions of where to buy at reasonable cost. I've bought several sets in the past from various sellers on ebay and Marklin themselves, but I think they've always cost me more than the coach I'm re-wheeling.

There's no doubt in my mind, though, that metal wheeled stock is far less prone to derailing than plastic wheeled.

Good luck, and if you do find a good source, please do share!

All the best


Chris
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Offline zscalehobo  
#5 Posted : 29 March 2019 23:08:14(UTC)
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And according to Marklin website
700810 is 10pcs at 21E (currently unavailable)
215721 is 4pcs at 15E

So, not sure that reasonably priced comes into this equation, Chris. Sorry about it. Due to the high costs, many dealers (especially states-side) are hesitant to keep an inventory. While I have 700810 in my stock, the 215721 has only been special-ordered when customers have lost them and had no other option.

Marklin's plastic wheels - ugh ... they lose gauge frequently and collect so much dirt. Any cars with plastic, I replace with 700810's right away.
Frank Daniels
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A Noch "Top Dealer"
Marklin Dealer and Z Locomotive Service
Irvine, California, USA
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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#6 Posted : 30 March 2019 00:00:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zscalehobo Go to Quoted Post


So, not sure that reasonably priced comes into this equation, Chris. Sorry about it. Due to the high costs, many dealers (especially states-side) are hesitant to keep an inventory. While I have 700810 in my stock, the 215721 has only been special-ordered when customers have lost them and had no other option.

Marklin's plastic wheels - ugh ... they lose gauge frequently and collect so much dirt. Any cars with plastic, I replace with 700810's right away.


And then there is the shipping cost... Even to the UK it adds a significant proportion to your order. I had no idea the cost was that high to dealers as well, though. I might be in Munich in May and if I am I'll check out the service centre there and see if they have the wheels in stock - will be interesting to see how much they'll cost me!

I haven't run plastic wheels long enough to find them losing gauge. In my experience they don't stay on the track long enough to pick up much dirt!

Cheers


Chris
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Offline Carim  
#7 Posted : 30 March 2019 19:01:26(UTC)
Carim

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I don't think it is a matter of getting spare wheels cheaply, more of an issue of actually being able to get hold of them in the first place. Anyhow, Lokmuseum.de seems to have quite a few sets of spare wheels so I ordered some from them, postage to the UK was Euro 8.50.

Carim
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#8 Posted : 30 March 2019 19:52:31(UTC)
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Glad you managed to find some. I think Gaugemaster will order them in for you if you ask, though I'd expect there to be a wait of a couple of weeks for them to be shipped over.

All the best


Chris
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Offline river6109  
#9 Posted : 01 April 2019 09:26:21(UTC)
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I've just bought square wheels from the same supplier

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Offline MalinAC  
#10 Posted : 01 April 2019 14:11:27(UTC)
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Why would you want square wheels, do they grip the track better.Eddie BigGrin BigGrin
Offline Crazy Harry  
#11 Posted : 01 April 2019 15:33:48(UTC)
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Square have better electrical contact!
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Offline river6109  
#12 Posted : 02 April 2019 08:25:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MalinAC Go to Quoted Post
Why would you want square wheels, do they grip the track better.Eddie BigGrin BigGrin


Its always handy to have when you don't have spare wheels.


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Offline husafreak  
#13 Posted : 15 April 2019 21:14:57(UTC)
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I was fortunate to have someone give me a bunch of Marklin cars at a train show, he just wanted them to go to a good home I guess. Well, I found they tracked poorly right off the bat, I then learned they were first generation plastic wheels. All told I ended up replacing 17 axles. The cars now have some weight and track reliably. If you plan to run your cars the steel wheels are mandatory in my opinion.
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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#14 Posted : 11 April 2020 22:39:42(UTC)
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I've been running some trains this weekend testing my "improved" 88962. In doing so, I noticed one of my 8730 coaches was regularly derailing at the same point on my layout.

After an awful lot of investigation, the problem turned out to be related to the (silver metal) wheels. Not sure what it was about the wheels, which run fine in my other 8730 coaches but I replaced them with the black metal ones - fortunately I had a set to hand - and now it runs perfectly. Interestingly, this particular coach has a history of derailing, though I've not had problems for several years.

Puzzling that I can swap wheels around and they'll only cause problems in this particular coach - there's obviously something a bit iffy about it - but good to know the black metal wheels come to the rescue once again!

Cheers


Chris
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