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Offline kweekalot  
#1 Posted : 10 February 2019 14:33:50(UTC)
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I guess this is Marklins latest video; 160 years Marklin.
I love it, even non mrr enthusiasts maybe might think it is a nice hobby.


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Offline MaerklinLife  
#2 Posted : 10 February 2019 17:38:52(UTC)
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This video is way better at presenting the hobby than the one before Christmas, which I did not understand the meaning of.
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Offline stockerta  
#3 Posted : 10 February 2019 17:42:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Go to Quoted Post
This video is way better at presenting the hobby than the one before Christmas, which I did not understand the meaning of.


I got the point of the first one, mainly because my collections base is from my late grandfather so it is a means for me to connect with him. Just as in the video. the grandkid connects with his late grandfather trough his Märklin trains.
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 10 February 2019 18:35:08(UTC)
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Another advertising to show up...
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Offline Purellum  
#5 Posted : 10 February 2019 19:02:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Another advertising to show up...


You must be fun at parties......... LOL

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Offline MaerklinLife  
#6 Posted : 11 February 2019 06:13:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: stockerta Go to Quoted Post
I got the point of the first one, mainly because my collections base is from my late grandfather so it is a means for me to connect with him. Just as in the video. the grandkid connects with his late grandfather trough his Märklin trains.

I sort of got that feeling too, but I did wonder about a few details, which made me think of another possible meaning.

1. What was the point of the wall with all the tickets?
2. If the guy in the station is really the late grandfather, then why are all the pictures of the kid updated. Yes, they could be there to create the link, but they are very specific about the pictures being that kid (in the same clothes as well). They are even in one of the pictures together.

It made me think that maybe the guy in the station is there to represent the kids imagination. The pictures tell the story that they are the same person. The kid does wear the grandfather's cap at the end, and the whole sequence seems to take place on the kid's layout. The wall is the kid looking forward to Christmas - or - it represents time flying - or - it represents that model railway is an everyday hobby.

It might be me, but I don't connect with it as much. It is beautifully made though. I am curious as to how others interpret the meaning?
Offline Goofy  
#7 Posted : 11 February 2019 06:53:02(UTC)
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I believe Märklin are desperate after customer when Märklin present and use more and more advertising.
The information about model railway world says that it´s getting lesser and lesser interesting of the model railway.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 11 February 2019 08:49:09(UTC)
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Well Goofy, if you open your wallet and buy more MRR stuff instead of complaining all the time, then the industry will be better off.

All very well to complain, but what are you doing personally to make things better?
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Offline skeeterbuck  
#9 Posted : 11 February 2019 12:52:13(UTC)
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Thanks for the post kweekalot. I brought a smile to my face. Nice way to start the day! ThumpUp

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Offline jvuye  
#10 Posted : 11 February 2019 16:39:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I believe Märklin are desperate after customer when Märklin present and use more and more advertising.
The information about model railway world says that it´s getting lesser and lesser interesting of the model railway.


I usually do not intervene with such posts, but frankly your handle shouldn't be "Goofy" but rather "The Grinch"
What really gives you pleasure in life?
Doesn't seem to me that model-railroading is one of these things.

Positive thinking always helps seeing the better part of life

Just sayin'

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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 12 February 2019 09:27:14(UTC)
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Why was Märklin bankruptcy?
Because less interesting of model railway and hard business by competitors.
The problem is lost of the customer and company do anything to get customer back by present advertising.
Märklin 160 years jubilee present by advertising...not short movie which TS thinks so.
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Offline Purellum  
#12 Posted : 12 February 2019 10:15:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
The problem is lost of the customer and company do anything to get customer back by present advertising.


Well, i Sweden there are a lot of bankruptcies every month; maybe you could tell them how to run their businesses?? LOL

https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/bankruptcies

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#13 Posted : 12 February 2019 15:29:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Why was Märklin bankruptcy?
Because less interesting of model railway and hard business by competitors.
The problem is lost of the customer and company do anything to get customer back by present advertising.
Märklin 160 years jubilee present by advertising...not short movie which TS thinks so.


What a load of rubbish.
Marklin went 'bankrupt' because their bank refused them credit because the venture capital company that bought out the original family ownership was taking every last Eurocent of profit out of the company, and the bank couldn't see how bank loans were going to be repaid.

Once they were put into insolvency and the venture capital company was no longer milking all the profits then the declaared profit leapt to some 10 million Euro or more.
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Offline Purellum  
#14 Posted : 12 February 2019 16:14:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Why was Märklin bankruptcy?
Because less interesting of model railway and hard business by competitors.
The problem is lost of the customer and company do anything to get customer back by present advertising.
Märklin 160 years jubilee present by advertising...not short movie which TS thinks so.


What a load of rubbish.


Yes, as usual. LOL

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Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 15 February 2019 19:45:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


What a load of rubbish.
Marklin went 'bankrupt' because their bank refused them credit because the venture capital company that bought out the original family ownership was taking every last Eurocent of profit out of the company, and the bank couldn't see how bank loans were going to be repaid.

Once they were put into insolvency and the venture capital company was no longer milking all the profits then the declaared profit leapt to some 10 million Euro or more.


The reason for Märklin´s bankruptcy has been poor sales figures and employees became without pay. Märklin therefore applied for more credit whose creditors said no. Bankruptcy become a fact then.

The reason for the deterioration in sales results lies mostly in reduced interest for model railways due to increased interests for others such as computer games and competitors of other model railways.

Even if you present the company with the help of advertising, it has not worked so well in any case.



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Offline Goofy  
#16 Posted : 15 February 2019 19:48:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post


Well, i Sweden there are a lot of bankruptcies every month; maybe you could tell them how to run their businesses?? LOL

https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/bankruptcies

Per.



Even Denmark do have problem with lot of bankruptcies.
You can present advertising of Denmark too?

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Offline Webmaster  
#17 Posted : 15 February 2019 20:12:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
The reason for the deterioration in sales results lies mostly in reduced interest for model railways due to increased interests for others such as computer games and competitors of other model railways

When it comes to "competitors", Märklin is doing rather fine nowadays compared to Roco & eg Fleischmann who are in receivership. A number of smaller special producers like eg Brawa may survive longer since they have a smaller family businesses and produce products that the enthusiasts want. But maybe not for as long as we would wish...
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Offline Purellum  
#18 Posted : 15 February 2019 21:34:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Even Denmark do have problem with lot of bankruptcies.


Well, the average monthly number is almost 3 times bigger in Sweden than in Denmark.............. LOL

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/bankruptcies

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Offline Goofy  
#19 Posted : 16 February 2019 07:31:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Even Denmark do have problem with lot of bankruptcies.


Well, the average monthly number is almost 3 times bigger in Sweden than in Denmark..............

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/bankruptcies

Per.



Congratulations!
You have presented that Denmark also has problems with bankruptcies.
But you should keep in mind that in Sweden we are more and also business enterprises in relation to Denmark who have less population and the number of companies.

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Offline Goofy  
#20 Posted : 16 February 2019 09:29:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post

When it comes to "competitors", Märklin is doing rather fine nowadays compared to Roco & eg Fleischmann who are in receivership. A number of smaller special producers like eg Brawa may survive longer since they have a smaller family businesses and produce products that the enthusiasts want. But maybe not for as long as we would wish...


That´s right!
At the beginning of February, it was ten years since Märklin went bankrupt.
Advertising can also be a reminder for customers, to support the companies.
Usually, it does help but not when it goes bad with finances.
When states go into low tensions, you have to expect hard bangs.

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Offline Purellum  
#21 Posted : 16 February 2019 20:54:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
But you should keep in mind that in Sweden we are more and also business enterprises in relation to Denmark who have less population and the number of companies.


Look at the numbers BigGrin

Sweden has less that the double population of Denmark, and only around 60% more companies; but 300% more bankruptcies. LOL

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/bankruptcies

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/bankruptcies

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Offline kweekalot  
#22 Posted : 16 February 2019 21:28:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Why was Märklin bankruptcy?


For what it's worth, Marklin never went bankrupt.
The company was in a temporary state of insolvency but never went bankrupt.




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Offline Goofy  
#23 Posted : 17 February 2019 09:34:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Why was Märklin bankruptcy?


For what it's worth, Marklin never went bankrupt.
The company was in a temporary state of insolvency but never went bankrupt.



Märklin was bankrupt.

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Offline Goofy  
#24 Posted : 17 February 2019 09:39:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
But you should keep in mind that in Sweden we are more and also business enterprises in relation to Denmark who have less population and the number of companies.


Look at the numbers BigGrin

Sweden has less that the double population of Denmark, and only around 60% more companies; but 300% more bankruptcies. LOL

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/bankruptcies

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/bankruptcies

Per.

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It´s very interesting you show up with laughing smileys and cool...

Huh
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Offline Purellum  
#25 Posted : 17 February 2019 19:37:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
For what it's worth, Marklin never went bankrupt.
The company was in a temporary state of insolvency but never went bankrupt.


Exactly; but don't expect Goofy to care about small details like that; he might even not know the difference. LOL

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Offline Purellum  
#26 Posted : 17 February 2019 19:40:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
It´s very interesting you show up with laughing smileys and cool...


It's always funny to read your posts, since you usually have no idea what you are writing about. Flapper

And reading something funny makes me laugh LOL LOL LOL

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Offline danmarklinman  
#27 Posted : 17 February 2019 20:09:04(UTC)
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Goofy are you on this forum just to make yourself look like a child. Please have respect for other peaples countries and there love for Marklin, it is after all the Marklin user forum? And your attitude is by far outnumbered?
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