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Marklin to presented 2018 Surprise locomotive - 39242 BR08 RRP 629.99 EUR  Edited by user 18 October 2018 10:14:02(UTC)
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Ah yes.. A 30455 with sound would be a surprise.. My FD bought one of these about 12 years ago. When Miss 19 was miss 7, we tried it out on our layout and the ears managed to collect every signal, tree and light fitting on the layout.. A lucky pig with sound is just the thing that my FD would buy - especially if it was available in 1 Gauge..   This image is from the Dutch Three Rail site - wiki.3rail.nl |
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Originally Posted by: xxup  Ah yes.. A 30455 with sound would be a surprise.. My FD bought one of these about 12 years ago. When Miss 19 was miss 7, we tried it out on our layout and the ears managed to collect every signal, tree and light fitting on the layout.. A lucky pig with sound is just the thing that my FD would buy - especially if it was available in 1 Gauge.. I actually know someone who has one of these and has converted it with sounds.... it's quite amusing |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin to presented 2018 Surprise locomotive in two weeks time. Hi Steven, that's intriguing, what is your source or reference for that suggestion? Cheers |
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin to presented 2018 Surprise locomotive in two weeks time. Hi Steven, that's intriguing, what is your source or reference for that suggestion? Cheers I believe he doesn´t know about it... |
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin to presented 2018 Surprise locomotive in two weeks time. Hi Steven, that's intriguing, what is your source or reference for that suggestion? Cheers The surprise details will be in Insider News 05/2018, so we will know the lok for the end of this month or firsts days of October At IMA koln (15 to 18 of November) we will know the first Insider Modell for 2019, and the details will be on Insider News 06/2018 I think that is the kalender |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin to presented 2018 Surprise locomotive in two weeks time. Hi Steven, that's intriguing, what is your source or reference for that suggestion? Cheers The surprise details will be in Insider News 05/2018, so we will know the lok for the end of this month or firsts days of October At IMA koln (15 to 18 of November) we will know the first Insider Modell for 2019, and the details will be on Insider News 06/2018 I think that is the kalender Ok, but where was it announced (notified, mentioned or hinted), that there would be a "surprise announcement" to come in the Insider news 05/2018? A rumour always starts somewhere.  |
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin to presented 2018 Surprise locomotive in two weeks time. Hi Steven, that's intriguing, what is your source or reference for that suggestion? Cheers The surprise details will be in Insider News 05/2018, so we will know the lok for the end of this month or firsts days of October At IMA koln (15 to 18 of November) we will know the first Insider Modell for 2019, and the details will be on Insider News 06/2018 I think that is the kalender Ok, but where was it announced (notified, mentioned or hinted), that there would be a "surprise announcement" to come in the Insider news 05/2018? A rumour always starts somewhere. No news... is expected BR44 but Marklin is a lottery :-) |
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Surprise loco for 2018 - 39242 BR08. |
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Any information about this loco? I've never heard of a Br08! |
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I'd say it's an uglier version of the beautiful French 241, probably captured by Germans during the war... Can't afford either of them, but if I could I'd prefer the French one...  39241 |
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster I'd say it's an uglier version of the beautiful French 241, probably captured by Germans during the war... Can't afford either of them, but if I could I prefer the French one... 39241 I have a Le Train special magazine book on the Les Mountains, one or two ended up in Germany during the war. There’s a clear view of one in camouflage as well!! |
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Thanks for the link Francois! Very good & interesting reading... |
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Interesting model! I'm sure there can't be many of these around so it's something quite specialised for a change. The perfect excuse to get a 241P when you only model German railways! |
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And the price is dropping to something more reasonable.....thinking about it now, will wait for prices of my usual dealers and see |
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Originally Posted by: xxup This image is from the Dutch Three Rail site - wiki.3rail.nl If you can't fly, go by rail  |
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Originally Posted by: sjbartels Originally Posted by: xxup Ah yes.. A 30455 with sound would be a surprise.. My FD bought one of these about 12 years ago. When Miss 19 was miss 7, we tried it out on our layout and the ears managed to collect every signal, tree and light fitting on the layout.. A lucky pig with sound is just the thing that my FD would buy - especially if it was available in 1 Gauge.. I actually know someone who has one of these and has converted it with sounds.... it's quite amusing How is the sound going? oink oink here and a oink oink there? Old McMärklin has a farm ...? 
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Actually, I had high hopes for the singing pig.. Maybe next year? |
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 Originally Posted by: Goofy I prefer buy an cheaper Brawa with better sound decoder. That's NOT a surprise.  Per. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Surprise loco for 2018 - 39242 BR08. The H0 model of the class 08 heavy express steam locomotive, with a powdered coal tender for the first time in the proven Märklin/TRIX quality. The unique locomotive now designated as road number 08 1001 went first to the maintenance facility at Berlin East Station after being completed in July of 1952. Here it was scheduled to pull the D 13/14 pair of express trains to/from Stralsund with the start of the winter schedule on October 5, 1952. The records of locomotive supervisor Specht at the maintenance facility at Berlin East Station reveal the following: On October 8, the unit came early from Leipzig and hauled the D 13 to Stralsund without maintenance. Despite "bad" powdered coal, the steam generation was good. Like the run out, the run back also occurred without problem. Another run on October 10 also gave no cause to complain and locomotive supervisor Specht noted: "Best steam generation. Bunkers 2+3 were still about 80 cm / 31 inches full on arrival in Stralsund." After transfer to the FVA in Halle in February of 1953, intensive test and measurement runs were done that resulted in many new findings. Model: The locomotive has an mfx+ digital decoder and extensive light and sound functions. It also has controlled high-efficiency propulsion with a flywheel, mounted in the boiler. 4 axles powered. Traction tires. The locomotive and tender are constructed mostly of metal. The model has a factory installed 72270 smoke unit. The dual headlights on the locomotive and tender change over with the direction of travel. They and the built-in smoke unit will work in conventional operation and can be controlled digitally. There is also cab lighting and running gear lights that can be controlled digitally. Maintenance-free warm white LEDs are used for lighting. There is an adjustable coupling with a guide mechanism between the locomotive and tender. The rear of the tender has a close coupler in an NEM pocket with a guide mechanism. The minimum radius for operation is 437.5 mm / 17-1/4“. Brake hoses, heating lines, and imitation prototype couplers are included. Length over the buffers 29.4 cm / 11-9/16“. |
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Hi everyone Mike sent me the price including tax. I'm going to buy myself a little something crazy: I ordered it. It is a loco too cool Thewolf |
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Nice one, although this was predictable
The DR 08 001 was originally a twin sister of the SNCF 241A, build in France before WW II , brought to Germany during the war and kept in the Soviet occupation zone after Vday .
It was used by the DR to test powdered coal firing , hence the totally different tender.
The coal powder firing experiment wasn't too successful, and the complexity of the compound expansion SNCF loco made it difficult for DR crews to draw all the capabilities of the machine.
Nevertheless it is a very nice and spectacular model and a piece of RR engineering history and a joy to behold!
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Still a minimum radius 437.5? |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Nice one, although this was predictable
The DR 08 001 was originally a twin sister of the SNCF 241A, build in France before WW II , brought to Germany during the war and kept in the Soviet occupation zone after Vday .
It was used by the DR to test powdered coal firing , hence the totally different tender.
The coal powder firing experiment wasn't too successful, and the complexity of the compound expansion SNCF loco made it difficult for DR crews to draw all the capabilities of the machine.
Nevertheless it is a very nice and spectacular model and a piece of RR engineering history and a joy to behold!
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Jacques This doesn't match what Troy Yang is saying above, but I guess there are differences of opinion on what is successful. Marklin brochure is here. DE/EN downloads OK, but the F/NL seemed to have a broken link. The text that Troy Yang quotes is straight from this brochure.
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Still a minimum radius 437.5? Hi The BR 08 is obviously derived from the SNCF 241A (Marklin 39241) and is very capable driving on R1 tracks at any speed (I have tested myself). The only restriction being the visual aspect. See here mine in action on R1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5xxW5V25TICheers Jean |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: jvuye Nice one, although this was predictable
The DR 08 001 was originally a twin sister of the SNCF 241A, build in France before WW II , brought to Germany during the war and kept in the Soviet occupation zone after Vday .
It was used by the DR to test powdered coal firing , hence the totally different tender.
The coal powder firing experiment wasn't too successful, and the complexity of the compound expansion SNCF loco made it difficult for DR crews to draw all the capabilities of the machine.
Nevertheless it is a very nice and spectacular model and a piece of RR engineering history and a joy to behold!
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Jacques This doesn't match what Troy Yang is saying above, but I guess there are differences of opinion on what is successful. Marklin brochure is here. DE/EN downloads OK, but the F/NL seemed to have a broken link. The text that Troy Yang quotes is straight from this brochure. No problem. My info originates from the Alba Book Dampflokomotiven . The loco worked faily well originally but the unfamiliarity and the complexity made it difficult to handle by the German Engineers accustomed to simpler machines. |
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Hello:
I was curious how do the newer generation of Marklin 37xxx & 39xxx series steam locomotives pull/perform? I noticed on Marklin's description that they will say drive on all main axles however, the exploded view only shows one "geared" drive axle. The older locos usually had all drive axles geared. I cannot see them performing well on a 3% grade..
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Originally Posted by: mike187 Hello:
I was curious how do the newer generation of Marklin 37xxx & 39xxx series steam locomotives pull/perform? I noticed on Marklin's description that they will say drive on all main axles however, the exploded view only shows one "geared" drive axle. The older locos usually had all drive axles geared. I cannot see them performing well on a 3% grade..
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB
The BR 08 is obviously derived from the SNCF 241A (Marklin 39241) and is very capable driving on R1 tracks at any speed (I have tested myself). The only restriction being the visual aspect.
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I agree Jean - my Märklin 29241 runs perfectly everywhere on my layout and it is such a beauty. I was lucky to have decided quickly or I would never have had any chance of getting one. This is an interesting model of an interesting loco but the Märklin 39242 lacks all of the beauty of the original machine, at least to me it does. I know that many people have been hoping for other versions of the SNCF 241, but Märklin taking the next sequential number for this loco makes me rethink that. Perhaps that tiny run of the 241.A.65 will be it for Märklin, for some unimaginable reason. |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj
This is an interesting model of an interesting loco but the Märklin 39242 lacks all of the beauty of the original machine, at least to me it does. I know that many people have been hoping for other versions of the SNCF 241, but Märklin taking the next sequential number for this loco makes me rethink that. Perhaps that tiny run of the 241.A.65 will be it for Märklin, for some unimaginable reason.
I'm sure they will produce at least one more, probably more than one, release in French livery. There will be a pre-war version at some point, and maybe one in wartime livery. I would expect to see it be the Nurnberg Toy Fair loco at some point (39249? - the model number ending in a 9 is often a special version), it has the majesty to have a release for that, quite possibly with a set of coaches as they did for this years Toy Fair loco. That could well be the way they release the start of a suitable series of French coaches for it, then I would suspect they will have lined up a set of loco and coaches as well at sometime. Doing the 39242 gives them a quick return on some of the design costs, using a tender they already had I think (although I can't think what other models used a powdered coal tender, a Br44 possibly?).
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Thanks, indeed I have overseen your link in post #30 - sorry. Well, I realized my eyes are no longer as good as they had been, when I sticked the M-tracks together. Nowadays I am always pleased changing to C-tracks. These I stick together blind.
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Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 I have 3 on order with modellbahn lippe OK, I'll bite...... Whatever do you want 3 for?? There was only ever one loco of this type....
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 I have 3 on order with modellbahn lippe OK, I'll bite...... Whatever do you want 3 for?? There was only ever one loco of this type.... 1 for West Germany, 1 for East Germany, 1 for Deutsche Reichsbahn |
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39242 is now Sold out at the factory. Lokshop still have 39242 available to order.  |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain 39242 is now Sold out at the factory. Lokshop still have 39242 available to order. Any idea of how many will be made?. |
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Originally Posted by: Alfa V8
Any idea of how many will be made?.
Maybe same as 39241 last year, Possible 1,800 approx. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: Alfa V8
Any idea of how many will be made?.
Maybe same as 39241 last year, Possible 1,800 approx. As long as Marklin doesn't forget mine that I ordered. Thewolf |
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Well ,Marklin change it to orange light.
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I see some dealers are offering this loco for 566.99 Euro instead of the RRP of 629.99 Euro
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