 Joined: 07/09/2016(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Michigan, Canton
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After 18 month manufacturing delay by ESU, I just received ESU 31271 (Class 66 HGK DE 61). As expected, user manual advises to use ESU smoke fluid only. Has anyone had experience with other smoke fluid?
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 Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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You need to use the ESU smoke fluid with ESU locos, as some other fluids may have additional additives that may foul the ESU smoke generators.
I have used Suethe fluid in my ESU BR215, which worked OK, but now that I have the ESU fluid that's what I use.
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Joined: 15/12/2015(UTC) Posts: 523 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  You need to use the ESU smoke fluid with ESU locos, as some other fluids may have additional additives that may foul the ESU smoke generators.
I have used Suethe fluid in my ESU BR215, which worked OK, but now that I have the ESU fluid that's what I use. So ESU has their own design smoke generators and don't use Seuthe? Interesting, kinda like re-inventing the wheel. Chuck
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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It's the same for KM1 Gauge 1 locos, you have to use their smoke fluid for the same reason.
The ESU and KM1 locos have smoke generators that have better features than other manufacturers - Diesel locos that have smoking exhausts, steam locos that have cylinder steam as well as smoke. They've had these features for some time, but Marklin hasn't caught up H0 wise, and has only just started to in the last couple of years as far as 1 Gauge goes.
This is why the 'wheel has been reinvented'.
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 Joined: 04/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 777 Location: England, London
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So whats the difference then between Marklin 02420 smoke fluid at 20Euros per 100ml and 2421 at 8 Euros per 100ml? Don't tell me 12Euros per 100ml!!
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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I come back to the point on 1 Gauge models with special features - cylinder smoke, etc. Marklin 02421 smoke fluid is "a large refill bottle with 250 ml / 8.45 oz. especially for 1 Gauge models with cylinder steam or for all smoke units." https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/02421/i.e. Don't use 02420 smoke fluid in Gauge 1 models, use 02421.
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Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,319 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest
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For the same reason 0w40 motor oil isn't the same as sewing machine oil different characteristics thought they all do lubricate, but the bigger question is: can you safely use vape fluid in them all so that as your steam or diesel runs around your layout your train room starts to smell like cheesecake or lemons? |
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