 Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel
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Hi all, Merry Christmas! I received this BRAWA 6560 Cable Car set for Christmas. Unfortunately it is for N scale, but I think it is close enough to Z scale that it will be fine on my Z scale layout. Has anyone used these cable car kits on their layout? I would like to see some members' photos or videos, if possible. Thanks, David 
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I was thinking of installing one of these on my Z layout in the future; would be very interested in how your project goes.
Andy
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Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel
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Hi Andy,
I will definitely post photos when I do get around to finishing my layout and incorporating this cable car set.
Thanks,
David
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Joined: 19/11/2017(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: Colorado Springs, USA
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Did you get your pictures? I see this post was back in December 🚂🚂🚂
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 Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,238 Location: Montreal, QC
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Joined: 22/12/2013(UTC) Posts: 563 Location: Sunny Southern Alberta
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Those things are dangerous. In every James Bond movie where they show up, there's always one or two people falling out of them.  |
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,238 Location: Montreal, QC
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They have been in a few Bond movies (OHMSS (Schilthorn CH), Moonraker (Rio BR), Spectre (Soelden AT). Other than Bond, there was also "Where Eagles Dare" and there was a disaster movie about people trapped in a gondola in the 1970s. I think it was "Skyway To Death"
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 Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,458 Location: Scotland
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Originally Posted by: PeFu  How did you find building the kit. Some time ago I bought the Faller HO cable car and gave up. I have built several hundred Faller kits including ntheir Fairground ones with no problem but the cable car kit I found impossible to build. Apologies for slightly changing the topic. |
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,238 Location: Montreal, QC
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Originally Posted by: PeFu I know that it is just a model train layout and none of us or very few of us have to have everything 100% prototypical, but I know, as a former skier, that I would not be happy to take a cable car and to then find out that you had to stop half way down the hill and hike down to the base station as the snow did not go all the way down the hill. ;) Looks like a pretty decent alpine setup for a small space. We had the Eheim/Brawa Chairlift, but never built it. Regards Mike C
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Joined: 19/11/2017(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: Colorado Springs, USA
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Figure out how to quite the motor? Mine also makes a lot of noise.
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Originally Posted by: mike c Originally Posted by: PeFu I know that it is just a model train layout and none of us or very few of us have to have everything 100% prototypical, but I know, as a former skier, that I would not be happy to take a cable car and to then find out that you had to stop half way down the hill and hike down to the base station as the snow did not go all the way down the hill. ;) Looks like a pretty decent alpine setup for a small space. We had the Eheim/Brawa Chairlift, but never built it. Regards Mike C Haha!  Well, if you’re a devoted skier, you will find the glaciere spots during summertime. Especially if there is an impressive vertical drop of 40 meters... 😎 I also found it diffucult to implement. There should be 2 ”carrying” cables for each car. I skipped them, as this derived a better cable friction at the motor wheel. Also, I skipped the mid-tower, that was just another source for failure.... But the skiers liked the result! |
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,238 Location: Montreal, QC
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I remember when we were trying the Kanzelwand lift, we had a piano wire guide which kept the line in place and then a string that was used to pull the chairs along the line.
I don't know whether other models used the same principle.
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Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel
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Hi Leistef,
I have been so busy lately and I haven't had a chance to set up the cable car set. It's great to see all this commentary regarding these Brawa cable cars though! By the way, PeFe, your layout looks great!
David
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Joined: 19/11/2017(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: Colorado Springs, USA
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Thanx Dave, whatever PeFe means 🤪
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Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel
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Ha typo. Sorry I was referring to member PeFu's layout.
David
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Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel
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Leistef,
The layout in your avatar looks awesome as well! Are you interested in setting up a cable car on yours?
David
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Joined: 04/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 19
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Has anyone had any experience with the slightly more rustic looking Faller 232372 'Goods and Passenger Ropeway'? (This is also for N Scale and I would am considering it for a Z Scale layout.)
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Joined: 21/04/2022(UTC) Posts: 10 Location: Connecticut, Hartford
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Hi! I know this is a very old thread, but I wanted to find out more about the motor noise. Last year we bought a vintage Eheim HO Aerial Cable Car System model 4021 at a Train Show. By all appearances, it's identical to the Brawa 6280 system. I finally got around to installing it (which wasn't easy because it didn't come with instructions!). It's up and running on wood blocks - no landscaping yet - but the motor is ridiculously loud! I lubed it a bit but it made no difference. Has anyone had any luck with silencing it? Do I need to replace the motor with a newer model?
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 Joined: 26/07/2021(UTC) Posts: 635 Location: Sydney
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Surely a company like Radio Shack in USA (was in Australia as Tandy decades ago) has something.
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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I've bought the HO version many years ago and yes the motor is noisy, and the gondola when going over the support beam starts toswing a bit, it is very important when you assembly the cable car not to twist the wire to much and the instructions do tell you it has to be constructed similar to rainbow bow but of course not to that extend., |
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,914 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Don't sound insulate the motr with anything that ,ight make it overheat, not that it runs much? Or add a sound decoder to mask the noise. I got the Jaegorndorfer ho set, and the accompanying ESU sound decoder. It's modern, but really neat!
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Joined: 26/07/2021(UTC) Posts: 635 Location: Sydney
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I agree, don't cover the motor in acoustic insulation, but you may be able to fill the space allowing enough air gap and add a Noctua 40mm fan for air movement past the motor. https://noctua.at/en/nf-a4x10-flx/specification I have one of these fans which I used for cooling a small transformer. Although they are expensive, they are quiet and might solve a difficult heat situation. If you have a bit more room the Noctua 40mm fan 20mm thick https://noctua.at/en/pro...-a4x20-flx/specificationI have about 50 of their various larger fans bought to quiet down computers. Also mounting the building on a bit of rubber or something a bit flexible will help reduce noise transmission. A bit of trial and error here as you need to listen carefully at the type of sound problem to be solved.
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What a neat little fan! A 6 year warranty too.
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If you are really keen on pushing Noctua fans, 40mm x 20mm for cooling! 
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Joined: 26/07/2021(UTC) Posts: 635 Location: Sydney
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 What a neat little fan! A 6 year warranty too. I swapped the 3 x 80mm fans in my 3.0kVA Eaton UPS for a quiet environment in 2007, still going, most of my Noctua fans are very old. I have repurposed some of them for an after cooler (and other items) for my triple tyre compressor set-up for outback Australia (4.5cfm at 90PSI up to 90amps draw according to DC clamp meter) which if I place in the car's refrigerator, I have the best moisture removal other than a last line of defence, desiccant drying.  (2 small engine oil coolers redesigned for an air compressor after cooler) But really the Noctua fans are very good, cost a lot up front but are worth every cent in the long run.
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 Joined: 20/12/2021(UTC) Posts: 7 Location: England, Brighton
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Originally Posted by: river6109 I've bought the HO version many years ago and yes the motor is noisy, and the gondola when going over the support beam starts toswing a bit, it is very important when you assembly the cable car not to twist the wire to much and the instructions do tell you it has to be constructed similar to rainbow bow but of course not to that extend., Your Seilbahn looks nice & great job on scenery.! I have managed to acquire the same mechanism in a box of bits & when I realised what it was decided to restore it. I have the valley unit & the top station motorised unit but no central pylon (can still be purchased so no problem). The bit I need advice on is the reversing mechanism. The contact relay is in place but the reversing arm is loose in the box & no way to hold it in place. Can you please post close up photos of how the reversing arm is held in place. There are some holes in the reversing arm, is some kind of wire spring needed. Any help appreciated. Dick
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