1960s: No transformers in Britain?

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Markus Schild		#1 Posted : 30 September 2017 09:52:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi, I recently got this 1965 catalogue for the UK. I noticed that the page with the transformers is missing. Instead just a nice photo: I know that also the 1963 GB - catalogue does not show transformers while Märklin offered 240V for the UK in the regular English catalogue (E o. P (Englisch ohne Preise - English without prices) ). Does anybody know the reason? How did British modellers operate their trains? Regards Markus
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 30 September 2017 10:30:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Perhaps they purchased them in New Zealand and had them shipped to the UK, because the English language catalogs sold here had them on page 51. This seems to be the same page no you show with the photo of the electric locos.
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RayF		#3 Posted : 03 October 2017 13:10:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		All the English language catalogues I remember had the complete range of transformers, including a version for 240V. In those days, however, it was quite common to run electrical devices in UK (and other areas nominally 240V), even though the devices were labelled 220V. The extra voltage did not get in the way of the primitive electrics, though they no doubt caused some premature failures. I still have my old 16VA blue transformer from 1958. I'll dig it out and check the voltage on it. Edit: I checked and it is marked 240V Edited by user 06 October 2017 19:11:55(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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cookee_nz		#4 Posted : 06 October 2017 05:55:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi, I recently got this 1965 catalogue for the UK. I noticed that the page with the transformers is missing. Instead just a nice photo: I know that also the 1963 GB - catalogue does not show transformers while Märklin offered 240V for the UK in the regular English catalogue (E o. P (Englisch ohne Preise - English without prices) ). Does anybody know the reason? How did British modellers operate their trains? Regards Markus Hi Markus, that is a very curious omission indeed - there is (or was) bound to be a good reason for it. Reminds me of a Faller catalogue, coincidently also from 1965 where the English (GB) version featured an endorsement from Stirling Moss whereas the English (US) version did not have it. Presumably because the US had no idea who Stirling Moss was!! Cheers
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gcanton		#5 Posted : 09 October 2017 01:13:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/06/2004(UTC) Posts: 71 Location: Hampshire, UK		I believe it was a purchase tax thing, in the UK a power supply was taxed less than a toy so they were often sold separately as power supplies not part of a toy. Train sets may well have not included them often or only a horrible battery thing. Graham

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Markus Schild		#6 Posted : 09 October 2017 10:50:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Graham, This seems to be logical for me. I discussed a number of theories with friends, but none of them really were satisfying. Edit: This can be also proofed comparing the prices in Germany and in GB: While the German catalogue shows DM 27.00 for the railbus 3016 and DM 35.00 for the 30VA transformer, the British consumer had to pay even more for the railbus (5-19-0) than for the transformer (5-5-0). But this leads to another question: Is there a "Märklin-Power-Supply" - leaflet I missed so far? Regards Markus Edited by user 09 October 2017 18:58:40(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Wildrose-Wally		#7 Posted : 09 October 2017 14:04:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/12/2013(UTC) Posts: 563 Location: Sunny Southern Alberta		I think in the 60's the British still ran their trains on steam.



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kiwiAlan		#8 Posted : 09 October 2017 15:17:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Wildrose-Wally I think in the 60's the British still ran their trains on steam. They certainly ran their power stations on steam ...


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steventrain		#9 Posted : 09 October 2017 21:47:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		From Catalogue GB. 1964/65 GB 1961/62 GB 1963/64 GB
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steventrain		#10 Posted : 09 October 2017 21:53:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		The catalogue in English edition. Note 'England' is for UK market. 1962/63 E o.P. 1960/61 E o.P. (for Australia)
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Markus Schild		#11 Posted : 11 October 2017 10:14:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi, This is the page 45 of the 1962/63 GB-edition: Higher resolution: https://dl.dropbox.com/s...4dgolqspa/45-1962-hr.jpg Regards Markus
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Bigdaddynz		#12 Posted : 11 October 2017 10:29:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Same picture that is on the front cover of the 0331 trackplan book.
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