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Originally Posted by: steventrain  INSIDER 2ND MODEL 2017.
39753 Class 75.4 Steam Tank Locomotive
41324 Set of "Rebuild" Cars Hi Stephen, The loco number seems to relate to a E03. regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: steventrain INSIDER 2ND MODEL 2017.
39753 Class 75.4 Steam Tank Locomotive
41324 Set of "Rebuild" Cars Hi Stephen, The loco number seems to relate to a E03. regards Kimball No, I look at google and found Ebay seller and someone else type in error number 39753. It should be 39 573 E03. |
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Thank you Stephen.
If it is a loco without the DB Kek, I will probably order it.
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According to a Dutch website eventually there will also be a 39751 and a 39755.
This makes sense.
The 39751 for ERA 1 (see Marklin 3312),the 39753 for ERA 2 (Reichsbahn) and the 39755 for ERA 3 (Deutsche Bundesbahn).
As is common for Marklin,there will be various versions of a new model,as such spreading the R&D costs over the various interest groups.
Freely translated i would call this "Milking the cow". |
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Was also discussed here a year ago, with information from Stummi. I think i will just wait for a model in era I and/or II |
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I have the model 37132, running number 75 073.
I think this must be called a Class 75.0
Here is the Marklin description: "Machinery companies in Esslingen and Heilbronn built the class T5 tank locomotive for the Royal Württemberg State Railways starting in 1910. These units were designed mainly for fast passenger train service on short main lines and important branch lines. These units soon proved themselves as general purpose locomotives due to their successful design."
It is one of my favorite runners, so I think the variation in the class 75.4 will be most welcome on my layout.
Here is Marklin description of 39753:
"A world premiere: The series 75 locomotive (ex bad. VIc) in H0 for the first time from Märklin. ......"
The rest of the text is embargoed till 31/05.
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow I have the model 37132, running number 75 073.
I think this must be called a Class 75.0
Yes that is right, different locomotives just the same wheel arrangement Class 75.0: Württemberg T 5 Class 75.4,10-11: Baden VI c https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_75Currently it seems only Liliput make the 75.4 in H0 (75 406) As mentioned, if it is being sold with rebuild cars it must be either epoch 3a or epoch 3b. Originally Posted by: NS1200
Freely translated i would call this "Milking the cow".
It allows people with focused modelling periods to be able to buy the right model. I think its great and it works well for both Marklin and the discerning modeller. If you don't model any particular period, you just buy whichever you like. I also think most manufacturers do the same thing, yet they don't cop any flak for it and I don't see why anyone should see it as a negative. |
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Be aware of the Liliput model(s).
Story goes that the distances between the drive axles is incorrect,distance between 1 and 2 should differ from distance between 2 and 3.
Marklin has done it right with the Spur 1 model.
Applor: i do not see it as a negative.
The insider model will probably come as ERA 2,the other versions will follow in due course,everybody happy.
The UP Big Boy once started as an insider model,various versions have been issued since.
Just to say there will be more than the now proudly announced Insider model.
My comments have also attracted questions on the Stummi forum,Germans always being very critical about everything,rather unpleasant.
Some people can only give negative comments rather than using their imagination.
Me referring to the 3312 only served the purpose of saying there will be an ERA 1 model also.
Possibly it has the horizontal connecting tube between the domes the first series had. |
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No pictures of the model? |
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Hi all! Originally Posted by: NS1200 The insider model will probably come as ERA 2,the other versions will follow in due course,everybody happy. Umbauwägen were built in era III and do not go well with an era II loco. I think Eric is on the right track and most likely it will be DB era III. It could be DR and era III or IV, but that is rather unlikely. |
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I like the Baden VI c! It has quite a rugged look to it.
I look forward to seeing how it looks from Marklin and what the different versions will be.
I'm not an Insider so I will look out for re-sales on ebay... |
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Nice! 👍 Looks now with matt finish color on the body. Not the gloss! What functions is there? |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Looks now with matt finish color on the body. Not the gloss! Rendered by a computer, based on CAD drawings. Hand-made samples are old school, now we get rendered images or models from a 3D printer. Glossiness may be different on the real model. |
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It looks fantastic, certainly going on my to buy list. Not sure about the coaches as M has made so many over the years. Perhaps these will come with interior lighting?
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  It's not on the M site yet. Wonder if it has smoke? Very nice Lok. Peter.
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Take look at the chimney...it seems to fit seuthe nr 20. I think locomotive will also have cab lighting. |
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Another nice job by Marklin!
Price will again discourage me,i am sure.
Pointing my arrows at a good old 3316 instead. |
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I have a 3312 which I love to bits and have converted with a 60760 kit. This loco looks completely different so I'm quite happy to have one of each type! |
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Hi. Moba 2009 Images of the Journey in the UEF 75 1118 Ulm-Goppingen    
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Price/date.
39753 Class 75.4 Steam Tank Locomotive 349.99 EUR Due Q3
41324 Set of "Rebuild" Cars 219.99 EUR Due Q3 |
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The locomotive looks beautiful, I'm going to get it for sure, the wagons well... I have plenty of umbau, I'm quite undecided if taking them or not. |
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Well that shows that the Insider version is epoch3b - triple headlights and the DB cookie.
The 39755 may be an epoch3a version then, or they'll make it the same as the 39753 Insider but with a different road number and no sound (most likely). |
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Originally Posted by: twmarklinfan It looks fantastic, certainly going on my to buy list. Not sure about the coaches as M has made so many over the years. Perhaps these will come with interior lighting? 41324 came with Factory-installed LED interior lighting and current-conducting couplers. |
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Both on Marklin database. >39753< - 30 Functions and Factory-installed smoke unit. >41324< |
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 According to a Dutch website eventually there will also be a 39751 and a 39755.
This makes sense.
The 39751 for ERA 1 (see Marklin 3312),the 39753 for ERA 2 (Reichsbahn) and the 39755 for ERA 3 (Deutsche Bundesbahn).
As is common for Marklin,there will be various versions of a new model,as such spreading the R&D costs over the various interest groups.
Freely translated i would call this "Milking the cow". Any link? Nothing hear from marklin about 39751 and 39755. |
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Originally Posted by: applor Well that shows that the Insider version is epoch3b - triple headlights and the DB cookie.
The 39755 may be an epoch3a version then, or they'll make it the same as the 39753 Insider but with a different road number and no sound (most likely). You were correct,of course. Let us wait for the other versions over the next 5 years or so. |
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Was also discussed here a year ago, with information from Stummi. I think i will just wait for a model in era I and/or II I guess it was not known a year ago that this model would be the second Insider model of 2017? But now it is here,and it looks great! |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Take look at the chimney...it seems to fit seuthe nr 20. I think locomotive will also have cab lighting. Nope...no cab lighting.  |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: Goofy Take look at the chimney...it seems to fit seuthe nr 20. I think locomotive will also have cab lighting. Nope...no cab lighting. I check Marklin database function table and 'Light Function' F21 I am sure it will be cab light with CS3? Function table Headlight(s) Smoke generator Steam locomotive op. sounds Locomotive whistle Direct control Sound of squealing brakes off Bell Whistle for switching maneuver Letting off Steam Air Pump Sound of coal being shoveled Conductor's Whistle Grate Shaken Injectors Switching maneuver Coupler sounds Water Pump Sanding Safety Valve Generator Sounds Light Function Squeaking sounds from wheels Replenishing fuel Replenishing fuel Replenishing fuel Grade crossing Cab chatter Cab chatter Surrounding sounds |
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The Cab chatter will be interesting i guess.
Will it be dialect German or formal German? |
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Marklin TV No.84 German only |
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More interestingly to me was to confirm that 2 issues noted on the 103 were just a prototype problem, the lack of detail of the driver and the red painting on the ends of the loco. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: Goofy Nope...no cab lighting. I check Marklin database function table and 'Light Function' F21 I am sure it will be cab light with CS3? Function table Headlight(s) Smoke generator Steam locomotive op. sounds Locomotive whistle Direct control Sound of squealing brakes off Bell Whistle for switching maneuver Letting off Steam Air Pump Sound of coal being shoveled Conductor's Whistle Grate Shaken Injectors Switching maneuver Coupler sounds Water Pump Sanding Safety Valve Generator Sounds Light Function Squeaking sounds from wheels Replenishing fuel Replenishing fuel Replenishing fuel Grade crossing Cab chatter Cab chatter Surrounding sounds It´s possible the light function are for shunting? Let´s see later. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin TV No.84 German only Nice loco! This is only the handmade non-serial model,of course. Interesting to note that the voice over says that the cabinview is see-through "of course",how different from the past where the electromotor was blocking the view in the cabins of the smaller steamengines,well done Marklin! The cabin chat seems to have a twist of South German dialect but German members on this forum will know better than me. Now we only need non-glossy realistic moving cows! Real cows are not glossy so why are 1/87 cows glossy? And:good to see that Marklin locomotives have a female touch! |
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Looks like a great model.
I will wait for an era II or IIIa version.
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I compared the Marklin gauge 1 models with the Marklin 39753.
It would seem Marklin are taking the gauge 1 models as an example for the H0 models,which is good.
The new 39753 shares its cabinnumber 751102 with the gauge 1 55753.
Perhaps from this it follows that the gauge 1 55751 (ERA 1 VIc 934) will be the example for an ERA 1 39751 in scale H0.
Who knows....... |
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 I compared the Marklin gauge 1 models with the Marklin 39753.
It would seem Marklin are taking the gauge 1 models as an example for the H0 models,which is good.
The new 39753 shares its cabinnumber 751102 with the gauge 1 55753.. Speaking of the Gauge 1 BR75, here is a picture of the 55752 BR75. This is not my loco, but rather belongs to a friend. 
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: NS1200 I compared the Marklin gauge 1 models with the Marklin 39753.
It would seem Marklin are taking the gauge 1 models as an example for the H0 models,which is good.
The new 39753 shares its cabinnumber 751102 with the gauge 1 55753.. Speaking of the Gauge 1 BR75, here is a picture of the 55752 BR75. This is not my loco, but rather belongs to a friend. That is obviously the ERA 2 Reichsbahn version,looking at the text on the cabin. We may safely assume that in H0 there will at least be 3 versions in the end,following the path of the gauge 1 loco's. |
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Funny Dutch language errors found in the Dutch/French version of the PDF.
I wonder whether M takes the trouble to let a Dutchman look at the printingproof before it goes out to the public.
I can read German very well but never ask me to write anything in German without making any grammar mistakes,German grammar is very different from Dutch grammar.
Like for any language,some tricks you can only learn as a young child from your parents,Google Translator will not help you.
Just something i do not expect from the professional M organisation. |
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Stummi member said BR75.4 running at Marklin digital infotag layout and it look stunning.
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Funny Dutch language errors found in the Dutch/French version of the PDF.
I wonder whether M takes the trouble to let a Dutchman look at the printingproof before it goes out to the public.
I can read German very well but never ask me to write anything in German without making any grammar mistakes,German grammar is very different from Dutch grammar.
Like for any language,some tricks you can only learn as a young child from your parents,Google Translator will not help you.
Just something i do not expect from the professional M organisation. Hi Paul. You're absolutely right. Marklin is obviously too cheap to have their books properly edited before final printing. Frankfurt is where the famous annual book fair occurs every year. I'm sure there are many editing houses there that they can use. This has been a problem with their publications for many years and is not a new issue. Peter. 
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30 functions and the most are sounds.
With so many sounds function it make fast boring to control all of them... |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy 30 functions and the most are sounds.
With so many sounds function it make fast boring to control all of them... People like to press all the buttons:) Of course for the owner it would get troublesome but a lot of the sound functions would be triggered randomly and can also be triggered as part of computer control. Better to have too many than not enough. |
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