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parakiet		#1 Posted : 02 May 2017 22:09:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 280 Location: Flanders!		Which passenger wagens could I hook up on my BR221 without creating a fantasy setup? Are TEE sets possible? Is the HANS SACHS set possible? Somehow I think they don’t match the blue/beige paint of the loc. When I search photos the br221 keeps popping up in its red paintjob.. Which cars should I get ?!?
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H0		#2 Posted : 02 May 2017 23:07:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		Hi! See pictures #17 and #16 on this page: http://www.bundesbahnzei...200%20Hochburg%20Luebeck The transition from green and blue coaches (e.g. Hans Sachs) via "Popwagen" to cream/ocean blue took several years. Do not use the BR 221 to push a push/pull train. But mixing different colours is no problem.
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applor		#3 Posted : 02 May 2017 23:27:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,654 Location: Brisbane, Queensland		I don't think the Hans Sachs set would be appropriate. The BR221 in ocean blue is epoch IV and at that stage hauling standard passenger and freight consists. Here are some pictures I found to give you some idea: http://www.bundesbahnzei...Bilder/b19-221%20111.jpg http://www.bundesbahnzei...Bilder/b25-220%20023.jpg http://www.bundesbahnzei...Bilder/b41-221%20115.jpg The passenger coaches appear to be a throw together mix of blue/cream and green UIC 26.4m cars.
		modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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parakiet		#4 Posted : 02 May 2017 23:35:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 280 Location: Flanders!		Originally Posted by: H0 Hi! See pictures #17 and #16 on this page: http://www.bundesbahnzei...200%20Hochburg%20Luebeck The transition from green and blue coaches (e.g. Hans Sachs) via "Popwagen" to cream/ocean blue took several years. Do not use the BR 221 to push a push/pull train. But mixing different colours is no problem. Waw thanks for the link. A lot of mixing going on! Are the green cars (pic 30) these cars: Marklin 8753+8754+8755 Umbauwagen ( https://www.maerklin.de/...ts/details/article/8753/ ) ? They seem to match. I love the way shorter wagens take curves in comparison to longer more modern wagens :)
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Minok		#5 Posted : 03 May 2017 01:27:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,310 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest
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parakiet		#6 Posted : 03 May 2017 07:06:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 280 Location: Flanders!		Originally Posted by: Minok Strange passenger transport
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Minok		#7 Posted : 03 May 2017 18:55:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,310 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest		What can I tell ya, by the time the loks were in that color scheme they had been put on a lot of freight service duty and on regional train routes for which photos are scarce.
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analogmike		#8 Posted : 04 May 2017 04:14:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 739 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		No TEE but lots of other wagons. Mikey
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parakiet		#9 Posted : 04 May 2017 07:43:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 280 Location: Flanders!		Originally Posted by: analogmike No TEE but lots of other wagons. Mikey apparently there was a service: BR221 was known to pull the short (2 carriages) TEE "Merkur", which ran from Stuttgart, Germany to Copenhagen, Denmark. I probably base my train on that little setup! :) Now since I am new to MRR and new to DRG-DB trains I am having a hard time linking photo's to actual marklin (or other) Z products :) So thank you al for the given input!!
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Markus Schild		#10 Posted : 12 May 2017 20:09:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Originally Posted by: analogmike Hi Mikey, These two pictures show the former 221 in their service in Greece. Regards Markus
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