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Offline pietercc  
#1 Posted : 16 January 2017 00:34:26(UTC)
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Does anyone know how to update decoders on the CS3 yet. There seams to be no obvious button to update like on the CS2 and the manual for the CS3 was not helpful.
Offline TEEWolf  
#2 Posted : 17 January 2017 05:34:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: pietercc Go to Quoted Post
Does anyone know how to update decoders on the CS3 yet. There seams to be no obvious button to update like on the CS2 and the manual for the CS3 was not helpful.


What do think about Maerklins new book offer Art# 03092 "Controlling Digitally with the CS 3"? Believe it or not: this book even comes in English!

There I do not have a CS 2, I do not know how you update them with a CS 2. I only read it in the book art# 03081, which is only in German available. I only have a CS 3+.

And indeed, a quick and incomplete research for programming the loco and sound decoders (they are the only ones which can be updated, so far as I know) it looks like, that you need the new mDT3 decoder programmer. This stick goes only with a computer and a new software you have to download first from Maerklins homepage.

Get a look here:

http://www.maerklin.de/e...ammer-for-mld3-and-msd3/
http://www.maerklin.de/e...etails/article/60971/21/
https://www.maerklin.de/...achruest-decoder-mldmsd/
https://www.maerklin.de/...3msd3/mdecodertool-mdt3/

http://downloads.cdn.re-...LOK_MIT_LEITERPLATTE.pdf

https://www.maerklin.de/...es/D_DecoderTool_A5c.pdf

https://www.maerklin.de/...n/Leitfaden_online_E.pdf

Hopefully these links gives you support.

It seems to me that you have risen a good new question: programming of decoders with a CS 3 possible? This needs further investigations. Probabely you might have to buy the art# 60971 mDT3 for programming purposes, if you only have a CS 3.
Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 17 January 2017 08:16:59(UTC)
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With the first versions of the CS2 many features were still missing and some tasks had to be done with a CS1.

So maybe you just have to have some patience, wait until the CS3 reaches a decent level of maturity, and upgrade the decoders a bit later.
Regards
Tom
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Offline mauriziogold  
#4 Posted : 03 February 2017 11:41:47(UTC)
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Hello to all
The software still Decoder Mdt3 tool does not recognize the Cs3.
Anyone know anything?
Regards
Maurizio
Offline TEEWolf  
#5 Posted : 03 February 2017 20:59:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mauriziogold Go to Quoted Post
Hello to all
The software still Decoder Mdt3 tool does not recognize the Cs3.
Anyone know anything?
Regards
Maurizio



May I understand your post correctly, your CS 3 recognizes the mDT 3 tool, but the mDT 3 does not recognize your CS 3? Or does both not recognize each other?

I got a CS 3+ but not yet a mDT 3, which actually I am thinking to buy one for upgrading my mfx decoders. But if a CS 3 does not yet recognize it, it is not worthwhile yet buying it.

Just before Christmas I wrote Maerklin Service an e-mail, because of different software versions at the CS 3 and my problems with version 1.0.1. Just three days ago I received their answer. Beside the fact, that in this community are obviously some Maerklin beta-software tester available, Maerklin told me not until version 1.2 it is possible updating a MS 2 with a CS 3. And indeed after installing version 1.2, I could update my MS 2 very easily and quickly.

It could be possible that the software either, for a CS 3 or for the mDT 3, are not yet able to communicate with each other. As H0 wrote already, it is not unusual for a Maerklin software. It is a petty Maerklin only does it communicate, if you ask them. Can't you write Maerklin and ask for it? Or perhaps one of our beta tester here has more information about it?
Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 03 February 2017 21:23:05(UTC)
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The "mDT3" is a software tool. You can get it free from Märklin's website. No need no buy it.
Regards
Tom
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Offline mauriziogold  
#7 Posted : 03 February 2017 22:32:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
May I understand your post correctly, your CS 3 recognizes the mDT 3 tool, but the mDT 3 does not recognize your CS 3? Or does both not recognize each other?


"MDT3" software when open does not recognize the CS3 but only the CS2.

Regards, Maurizio.

Sorry for my English but I use Google Translate.

Offline Crazy Harry  
#8 Posted : 04 February 2017 03:15:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mauriziogold Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
May I understand your post correctly, your CS 3 recognizes the mDT 3 tool, but the mDT 3 does not recognize your CS 3? Or does both not recognize each other?


"MDT3" software when open does not recognize the CS3 but only the CS2.

Regards, Maurizio.

Sorry for my English but I use Google Translate.



I'm guessing that you have to wait for Marklin to do an update to the mDT3 decoder tool software. The current version is 3.2.2 from the 8th of June 2016 when the CS3/CS3+ were not released yet.

Harold.
Offline TEEWolf  
#9 Posted : 04 February 2017 03:16:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mauriziogold Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
May I understand your post correctly, your CS 3 recognizes the mDT 3 tool, but the mDT 3 does not recognize your CS 3? Or does both not recognize each other?


"MDT3" software when open does not recognize the CS3 but only the CS2.

Regards, Maurizio.

Sorry for my English but I use Google Translate.



No good news. I think that the software for the 60971 mDT 3 is not yet usable for a CS 3. Interesting that I could not find the software very easy directly on Maerklins homepage any more, as it is described in the mDT 3 manual. I only found it, because I have an old link stored in my favorits.

Then I looked up the published changelog from Maerklin. The entries stopped on June, 8th 2016. M started the sale of its CS 3 somewhere in September/October 2016. I think it is the best writing to Maerklin a mail and ask for the software for the 60971 which aligns with a CS 3.

Do not hesitate to write in Italian language. I know from a visit at Maerklin, that they employ plenty of Italians in their company who speak very good German as well. So Maerklin has the ability to translate your e-mail easily.

The next days I will do an investigation for you in the German Maerklin communities (like the Stummi Forum), if somebody there has written about your problem already.

The same happened to me with my MS 2 before the CS 3 software was updated to the ersion 1.2.0. The CS 3 did not recognize anything of the MS 2 before.

Here are the links:

software vers 1.0.0 from November 8th, 2012
https://www.maerklin.de/...mldmsd/mdecodertool-mdt/


software vers 3.2.2 from June 8th 2016
http://www.maerklin.de/d...3msd3/mdecodertool-mdt3/

Be aware that the software is only applicable for very specific art# of decoder. So please compare the article numbers first. Märklin writes that you have to be carful, which tool is used for which decoder. A part is for the mdt and another part is for the mDT3!!!

The mdt is only for a CS 2 from vers 2.1 and the mDT 3 is only for a use of a CS II from software version 4.1. No word about a CS 3, so I think it will not function with a CS 3 at the moment. Sorry all this text at the links is in German.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#10 Posted : 09 April 2017 05:01:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mauriziogold Go to Quoted Post
Hello to all
The software still Decoder Mdt3 tool does not recognize the Cs3.
Anyone know anything?
Regards
Maurizio



Since March 27th, 2017 there is a software update (version 3.2.3) for the mDT3 available. You find it here:

https://www.maerklin.de/...3msd3/mdecodertool-mdt3/

The changelog mentions that now a mLD/3 revision D (what ever it is, because it is not explained) was done and the 32/64 Mbit sound memory will be supported now. Perhaps this update resolves now your problem of recognition the CS 3. I did not test it and unfortunately everything only in German available.
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