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Offline fhp2  
#1 Posted : 20 October 2016 19:32:03(UTC)
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Hello,
If I switch to the CS3+, is it possible to transfer all my CS2 accessories/locos datas to the CS3 so that I can immediately run my layout under the new CS3+ ?
Thank you for your help, Francois.
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Offline Goofy  
#2 Posted : 20 October 2016 22:06:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fhp2 Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
If I switch to the CS3+, is it possible to transfer all my CS2 accessories/locos datas to the CS3 so that I can immediately run my layout under the new CS3+ ?
Thank you for your help, Francois.


Short answer...Yes!
But you cannot export CS3+ data to the CS2.

H0
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Offline fhp2  
#3 Posted : 20 October 2016 22:25:02(UTC)
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How do you do this ?
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 21 October 2016 09:22:56(UTC)
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How do you do this ?


There is manual for the CS3+ in the Märklins homepage by download.

H0
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Offline fhp2  
#5 Posted : 21 October 2016 13:54:42(UTC)
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Hello again,
I could not find where it explains how to transfer all the datas from a CS2 to a CS3+...
Can you help ?
Thank you, Francois.
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Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 21 October 2016 20:48:07(UTC)
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Tip for users of CS3 and CS3 plus : wait a while with the transfer of the (old) CS2 to CS3 files. According to Stummi Forum will hereby prevent certain features may not operate more in CS3. Marklin is working on an update. Without transferring the old CS2 files CS3 works, despite some minor software bugs - RML 3railforum.
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Offline NewComix  
#7 Posted : 22 October 2016 16:10:49(UTC)
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Dear François,

Originally Posted by: fhp2 Go to Quoted Post
Hello again,
I could not find where it explains how to transfer all the datas from a CS2 to a CS3+...
Can you help ?
Thank you, Francois.


you just restore the backup from a USB stick, but use a Backup file from your old CS2. My import worked fine, but wait a few days some users did encounter problems.

Kind regards
Jörg

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Offline Rocca  
#8 Posted : 25 October 2016 22:21:00(UTC)
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Hello to everybody,

I'm just asking, what about the CS1 (Märklin 60212)? Would I be allowed to transfer all the datas to a new CS3 or not? The Manual seems supposing you need a CS2 to connect through an Ethernet cable to the CS1.
What do you think about, please
Best regards

Stefano Rocca

quote=fhp2;531006]Hello,
If I switch to the CS3+, is it possible to transfer all my CS2 accessories/locos datas to the CS3 so that I can immediately run my layout under the new CS3+ ?
Thank you for your help, Francois.
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Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 26 October 2016 08:33:07(UTC)
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It seems that transferring data from a CS2 to a CS3 currently bricks the CS3. Do not try this until Märklin tell is it can safely be done.
This transfer uses USB memory.

The 60212 can be used as a slave with the CS2. I presume the data transfer goes the other way: the master CS2 transfers some data to the slave CS1.
I expect that CS1 users have to start from scratch when switching to a CS3 now.
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Tom
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Offline antazio  
#10 Posted : 10 October 2017 18:56:52(UTC)
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Hello

Has anyone managed to transfer data from CS2 to CS3 correctly? Most important for me is to transfer layout data without an issue...

Thanks
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Offline TEEWolf  
#11 Posted : 13 October 2017 05:29:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: antazio Go to Quoted Post
Hello

Has anyone managed to transfer data from CS2 to CS3 correctly? Most important for me is to transfer layout data without an issue...

Thanks


I only got a CS 3+ and did not have the transfer problem from a CS 2. Nevertheless the handbook describes the transfer as very easy. Doing a regular backup on an USB-stick at the CS 2. Stick the stick into the CS 3 and download the CS 2 data into the CS 3. It sounds not complicated.

The problem arises at the layout. Somewhere at a Maerklin publication (sorry, name forgotten) I read that the differences between the layout of a CS 2 to a CS 3 are so substantial, there is no possibility of a transfer. It has to be built up again at the CS 3. But of course you have the advantage, all your magnetic articles are availbale from the transfer.

At MM 03/2016 page 25 Maerklin writes, if you got a CS 2 60213 or 60214 for connection purposes you must use a CS 3 PLUS!

I myself have the opinion that also the first model of CS 2 60215 (till software version 3) can only be connected with a CS 3+ because of the missing galvanic seperation inside.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#12 Posted : 28 September 2021 11:51:24(UTC)
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The process does work with the current CS3 version (2.3.1).

My biggest problem was getting my CS2 to recognise a USB stick to write to - had to try several before a 4 month old Toshiba 16Gb stick worked. The stick should be formatted FAT32.

The process is

- Insert USB stick into CS2 (may need to try several before one works)
- Perform a system backup to USB. Name the file some appropriate.
- Remove USB stick from CS2 and insert it in the CS3 (you may also need to have a mouse plugged into the 2nd USB port before the stick is seen - needs verifying)
- Perform a system restore from the file on the USB stick (located in the 'cs2' directory)
- Wait for a while, then a popup screen in German appears. Click on the message tick box to clear it, after about 30 seconds you should see your locos and solenoid devices appear.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#13 Posted : 28 September 2021 16:04:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

At MM 03/2016 page 25 Maerklin writes, if you got a CS 2 60213 or 60214 for connection purposes you must use a CS 3 PLUS!

I myself have the opinion that also the first model of CS 2 60215 (till software version 3) can only be connected with a CS 3+ because of the missing galvanic seperation inside.


No, you are wrong here. ALL 60215 have the galvanic isolation. The later 60214 also have it, the earlier 60214 do not have it. The difference can be determined by the hardware revision level that is listed when looking at the hardware screen, but I can never remember the hardware revisions (rev 3.something against rev 4.something IIRC).
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#14 Posted : 28 September 2021 20:53:06(UTC)
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I think it was v4.31 and above from memory but would have to check.
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Offline fhp2  
#15 Posted : 29 September 2021 08:30:22(UTC)
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Hello,
I am shifting from a CS3+ to a new one, and I would like to only transfer the loco datas, nothing else (the new CS3+ has lots of datas for a new layout...).
Is it feasible ?
Thank you for your help.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#16 Posted : 01 October 2021 12:01:03(UTC)
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No, you cannot transfer only loco data as there is no ability to pick and choose in the transfer process what items you want to transfer - it is an all or nothing process.
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