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David Dewar
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08 October 2008 18:56:07(UTC)
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Hi Luis. Just to say what a great idea for the CS2 known issue thread where all we get are the facts without the arguments and comments etc.
May be an idea though to have some of the positive points as well as those which indicate that the unit has been issued too early. For example can we switch on and run trains and turnouts etc without any problems and does the shuttle feature work. I was surprised that somebody said there was not an icon for a function decoder as i have lighting in most of my coaches.
The known issues is a great thread ... we need more like this where all we get are the facts.
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09 October 2008 11:45:26(UTC)
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Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Here's one for Macca. The very first starter set with CS2, before Marklin have announced a starter set with CS2's!!
http://cgi.ebay.de/29840...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Davies (x2)
Noted the trick of inserting the CS2 into the set.
Also noted the price and 'VAT' comment and closed the page.
Another rip-off merchant?
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09 October 2008 11:48:03(UTC)
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Originally posted by Hemmerich
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Originally posted by laalves
Hi Lutz,
Can you verify the issues I've posted? Do you think they will be addressed in the nex update?
Hi Luis,
I've already included some response in the CS-II technical information thread.
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Perhaps you could take them to the attention of one of your contacts within Märklin.
You can and should do what applies as well to every other Märklin/CS-II customer worldwide - send your issue(s), questions or suggestions to the attention of the technical service as provided here (either enter "60213" or "CS-II" in the subject line):
http://www.maerklin.de/de/servi...lfe/kontaktformular.html
BTW: They were quite thankful for my (constructive) feedback so far; I see no reason why this would be much different for you. [^]
Are you an Official Beta Tester, Lutz?
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09 October 2008 12:03:52(UTC)
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<br />It is a shame that not everyone has a dealer with a demo unit connected to an actual layout 10 min away from home like I do....
True Luis, that's my situation here. However, we have a Model Rail Exhibition that our club jointly organises with 2 other clubs coming up in November. Our main Marklin dealer (www.toottoot.co.nz) normally attends this exhibition, so hopefully he will have a CS2 with him that we can all take a look at.
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09 October 2008 12:06:17(UTC)
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<br />Another rip-off merchant?
I think so Macca. Shame really, that set could have been a real good buy for someone like yourself wanting that set with a CS2.
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09 October 2008 15:06:43(UTC)
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Originally posted by laalves
<br />...I really can't understand the keyboard screw up, though. This should have been picked up by testing, plain and simple. Testing was not thourough, that's for sure. One would have noticed that when you try to rename a lok and press "b" a "V" shows up, and if you want a "z" or "Z", there is none! You do have two "y", though quite useful, in case you forget where the normal one is...
I sounds like the same problem we had with the English edition of the eCOS. What you have is a German keyboard on the keylock... ESU fixed the problem months ago, (April this year from memory) but I can't remember if the update made it to the CS1..[B)]
The link is here
http://www.esu-support.eu/showthread.php?tid=1513
, but here is the first [post to give you the idea..
"I just started working with ECoS, (software 1.1.1) and found the following problem.
Arrow key does not work at all: > <
Turn Caps On entering “z” shows up as “Y”,
";" shows up as “<”
":" shows up as “>”
Does anyone else have this problem?"
Response from ESU
"Dear Nugget,
there is a small bug in the english keyboard. We will fix it with FW 1.1.2.
Thanks for your hint and sorry for the inconvenience caused...
1.1.2. will be available for download in a very short time!"
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09 October 2008 18:24:07(UTC)
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CS2 actually is much more clean and complete than first first batch of CS1 3 years ago !!!
Remember the bugs...
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10 October 2008 16:38:24(UTC)
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Time for me to chip in with my impressions so far.
Serial no. 1900, hardware version 3.1, software version 1.05(2)
Generally, I really like the CS2 and I am sure that it will fit my needs for a control setup for a long time to come. As already documented there are issues that need resolving (English keyboard, missing function icons etc.), but as far as I can tell from Stummi's forum these are all acknowledged by Göppingen and being worked upon.
I received the CS2 at the beginning of the week, but only had time to start playing yesterday so there are still things that I haven't tried yet. Initial setup seemed absolutely painless. I powered up, connected a LAN cable from my router and hit the update button, CS2 phoned home and updated itself to 1.05(2). Powered down again and connected cabling to the track sections, programming track and my 60173 booster, rechecked everything and realised that red/brown were actually crossed on one of the two supplied connectors - this explains the small 1-page reminder in the package
Having fixed this I then switched both CS2 and Booster trafos on simultaneously and shortly after I could add a couple of mfx locs - big change from the CS1 here, literally just takes a few seconds. The annoying part is that you have to edit the funtion buttons afterwards as not all assigned functions are read by the CS2, I am sure this will be fixed but it
is
annoying! On the subject of loc editing, I have not been able to assign a custom picture to a loc (Thomas 36120) despite following the instruction in the on-line help. I have seen other reports about this on Stummi's forum.
Moving on to the Keyboard section, I added all my switches and checked that they responded. Next, defined a few routes in the Memory section - really easy as well. Finally, I played around with the layout section a while and managed to mimic my SchattenBahnhof fairly well. Please notice that I have not started any advanced controlling yet, such as using contact tracks, S88 etc. so you will have to look elsewhere to find out whether there are any problems of that kind. Before going to bed I did a full backup, both internally and to a USB stick - haven't tried a restore yet, though.
So far, so good. For the moment I'll keep my CS1 so that I can still play around with function mapping, but let's see if Mother M doesn't cave in to user pressure at one point and provides us with that in CS2 as well
Cheers,
Søren
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10 October 2008 16:46:43(UTC)
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Originally posted by xxup
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<br />...I really can't understand the keyboard screw up, though. This should have been picked up by testing, plain and simple. Testing was not thourough, that's for sure. One would have noticed that when you try to rename a lok and press "b" a "V" shows up, and if you want a "z" or "Z", there is none! You do have two "y", though quite useful, in case you forget where the normal one is...
I sounds like the same problem we had with the English edition of the eCOS. What you have is a German keyboard on the keylock... ESU fixed the problem months ago, (April this year from memory) but I can't remember if the update made it to the CS1..[B)]
Märklin claims it developed the CS2 on its own. That might be true, but still it is very likely they based the software on the sources of the CS1. That software is freely available to all. Since it has the GP License, this would mean they have to release the sources of the CS2 software too.
René
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10 October 2008 19:54:23(UTC)
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Question about CS2 ?
Can you transfer your setups from CS1 to CS2 without having to recreate everything ?
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11 October 2008 01:29:40(UTC)
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<br />Hi nev,
I have the CS2 connected the same way I had the CS1, via a Linksys WET54G, which is a wireless bridge. This then communicates to the wireless router. That's how it updated itself, it simply phones home!
My top floor is an open space where I work and to connect the router to the CS in an invisible manner using a cable,I would need about 30 m of cable! And a lot of work. So, I gladly paid 70€ or so for the WET54G.
Got a Wireless Bridge on Order.
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07 November 2008 00:42:30(UTC)
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Just received my CS2 60213 and so far I am pleased with it. All I managed to do so far is power it up and connect my PS2 keyboard with built in touchpad (via a PS2 to USB adapter) and my USB trackball, all connected with a powered USB hub. All work perfectly together and very smooth scrolling on the trackball.
Will have to do more testing before I connect it to my layout and try my current software on it.
Matthew
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Tivvy
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07 November 2008 05:26:44(UTC)
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What serial number is your unit Matt?
Hope it doesnt lose any smoke on you. Sounds like a loverly piece of equipment when it is working correctly.
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07 November 2008 06:09:51(UTC)
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<br />What serial number is your unit Matt?
Hope it doesnt lose any smoke on you. Sounds like a loverly piece of equipment when it is working correctly.
I agree , when all of the bugs are worked out and all of the functions implemented it will be a lovely piece of equipment.
But the OZ $$ has to get back up to around .85- .90USD to make it affordable.
$1350-1400 OZ $ makes it very expensive.
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07 November 2008 14:46:16(UTC)
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<br />What serial number is your unit Matt?
Hope it doesnt lose any smoke on you. Sounds like a loverly piece of equipment when it is working correctly.
Can't remember exactly but mid 1800's [:0]
One thing I never do is use the built in booster for the main track, even with my current 6021. I beleive that If I can afford an item like this then I can afford also one more booster and power supply. In this case I can easily switch control units or central stations with out really having to do any further changes to the reamining infrastructure. Currently I am using 6017 style boosters since mfx features is not essential for me at this time.
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