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Goofy		#1 Posted : 01 July 2016 20:44:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		I have tried to figure out about new models 2016. Is there any one of theme which do have new motor or is it still same 3 pole motor? Like BR 64 39648... And what does sound decoder do present...it´s still old mfx+ or it´s generation 3? Any one who knows?
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Goofy		#2 Posted : 02 July 2016 08:50:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Come on! Nobody who knows and have some information??? I know some members here do have Märklins 39648. Is this model really do have same 3 pole motor like others and same mfx+ decoder? Sometimes are Märklin bastards with porr information.
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RayF		#3 Posted : 02 July 2016 09:56:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I have no idea what motor is in my latest locos. As long as they run OK I don't complain.
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Goofy		#4 Posted : 02 July 2016 10:21:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: RayF I have no idea what motor is in my latest locos. As long as they run OK I don't complain. So you have this loco? Do you know if it´s mSD3 sound decoder?
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Goofy		#5 Posted : 02 July 2016 11:19:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Is there any loco reviews about 39648? I want to know if this loco do have mSD3 decoder.
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Joined: 08/04/2015(UTC) Views messages in topic : 303 Location: Vigo, Spain		Märklin´s instruction leaflet numbers the decoder as part 262193 if that is of any help... Regards Carlos
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RayF		#7 Posted : 02 July 2016 16:34:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: RayF I have no idea what motor is in my latest locos. As long as they run OK I don't complain. So you have this loco? Do you know if it´s mSD3 sound decoder? No sorry, I don't have this loco.
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kiwiAlan		#8 Posted : 02 July 2016 18:18:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,464 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Goofy Is there any loco reviews about 39648? I want to know if this loco do have mSD3 decoder. Why don't you buy one and take it apart to find out
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Goofy		#9 Posted : 02 July 2016 19:32:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Goofy Is there any loco reviews about 39648? I want to know if this loco do have mSD3 decoder. Why don't you buy one and take it apart to find out No i´m just curious.
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Purellum		#10 Posted : 02 July 2016 20:39:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Don't buy it. The decoder-PCB is square. Per.
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Goofy		#11 Posted : 03 July 2016 08:33:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Purellum Don't buy it. The decoder-PCB is square. Per. I don´t understand yours comment. The decoder-PCB are rectangle.
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Goofy		#12 Posted : 03 July 2016 10:22:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		I have just been in the youtube and did watched this video about the BR 64. It seems only the package is changed,but the locomotive do have same sound decoder and 3 pole motor like others same type old model. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-cBvLJYt8
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Purellum		#13 Posted : 03 July 2016 10:48:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Something is changed from 39644 to 39648, since the available sounds are different. It could be just what is loaded into the decoder; but I don't know. Per.
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Goofy		#14 Posted : 03 July 2016 15:26:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		I did found this article number. MOTOR 39644...196 528 39648...196 528 MFX+ SOUND DECODER 39644...194 196 39648...262 193 It´s same motor,but not the sound decoder. Edited by user 04 July 2016 20:43:01(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#15 Posted : 03 July 2016 15:40:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Here is another new model 2016...BR 218 39186/37767 old model MOTOR 39186...252 284 37767...162 120 MFX+ SOUND DECODER 39186...269 406 37767...185 066 Edited at: by user 04 July 2016 20:42:45(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#16 Posted : 03 July 2016 15:47:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Electric E 41 39415 MOTOR 232 162 MFX+ SOUND DECODER 246 665 Another model with the 5 pole motor. Edited by user 04 July 2016 20:42:19(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#17 Posted : 03 July 2016 15:55:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Now i present insider model 2014...E 93 37870 MOTOR 193 078 MFX+ SOUND DECODER 204 893 This model seems to have 3 pole motor. Trix version 22870 do have same motor and the decoder. Edited by user 04 July 2016 20:45:11(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#18 Posted : 03 July 2016 19:26:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		I did found this too: BR 50 37835 MOTOR 255 885 MFX+ SOUND DECODER 239 299 BR 628.2 37728 diesel rail car MOTOR Old standard 5 pole DCM MFX+ SOUND DECODER 262 347 Insider model 2016 BR 95 39095 5 pole motor and mfx+ Edited by user 04 July 2016 20:46:29(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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H0		#19 Posted : 03 July 2016 20:43:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,441 Location: DE-NW		Since they store the ref. number of the loco in the decoder, there will be a new spare-part number for the decoder whenever there is a new ref. number. This does not imply new decoder hardware. You cannot tell the decoder version from the spare-parts list. The retail version msd/3 does not have mfx+.
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Goofy		#20 Posted : 04 July 2016 05:33:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: H0 Since they store the ref. number of the loco in the decoder, there will be a new spare-part number for the decoder whenever there is a new ref. number. This does not imply new decoder hardware. You cannot tell the decoder version from the spare-parts list. The retail version msd/3 does not have mfx+. Yes it´s truth,but there is no fact from the Märklin. It shows only the numbers. Question is also about the type of motor... mSD3 doesn´t support +. It´s correct. I did started topic to find the answer. It´s really sad that Märklin are so bad with the information!
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