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Offline NS1200  
#1 Posted : 02 April 2016 13:47:38(UTC)
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The good old Marklin F7 Diesel units are great and look like they will last forever.
I have several versions by now.
The single A units have standard couplings causing a gap between two of these units.
These couplings can be replaced by Marklin partcode 28960 (later 289600) which is a flat metal plate with two holes and two small bolts,reducing the distance between the two A units and making it much more realistic.
I have bought a set for my newly aquired Rio Grande F7 units.

The A-B-A combinations issued by Marklin have them factory fitted,which is good.
Story also goes that the separately sold B units have two sets included.

Partcode 28960/289600 can be found on internet,i found it on Ebay.de,from an Italian seller.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline dickinsonj  
#2 Posted : 02 April 2016 16:37:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
The good old Marklin F7 Diesel units are great and look like they will last forever.
I have several versions by now.
The single A units have standard couplings causing a gap between two of these units.
These couplings can be replaced by Marklin partcode 28960 (later 289600) which is a flat metal plate with two holes and two small bolts,reducing the distance between the two A units and making it much more realistic.
I have bought a set for my newly aquired Rio Grande F7 units.

The A-B-A combinations issued by Marklin have them factory fitted,which is good.
Story also goes that the separately sold B units have two sets included.

Partcode 28960/289600 can be found on internet,i found it on Ebay.de,from an Italian seller.

That is a perfect description of my one set of F7's too: beautiful, powerful and they will outlast me! Mine came in an A-B-B configuration with the permanent connections between motor units and the close spacing looks really nice. That will make a great upgrade to your new Rio Grande set IMO. Want to share what F7 sets you have in your yard?

That is a nice upgrade resource to know about - Thanks for the information.

Jim
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline NS1200  
#3 Posted : 02 April 2016 18:18:35(UTC)
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Thanks,Jim.

The German Ebay is a great source for Marklin stuff anyway,Marklin being a German company,it stands to reason that the number of Marklin items on offer is overwelming.
I buy most of my Marklin items that way.

Apart from the 3062/4062 Rio Grande A-A units i have the 3060/4060 A-A Santa Fe red/silver units and the 3362 A-B-A Santa Fe blue/silver units.
Some time ago i sold the 3349 A-B-A grey Demonstrator set,a great bargain with two motors,upon closer look rather beautiful,not a grey mouse really,i might buy it again!
As said,the magnificant 26600 California Zephyr is on the wishlist for 2017.

Noting you have the A-B-B combination that must be the 37629 Union Pacific,right?

The SF red/silver warbonnets were first issued in the early sixties,a boys dream!
I think those metal bodyshells are still used,be it with added detail,clear windows instead of milky windows,etc.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2...eName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Cheers,
Paul
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#4 Posted : 06 April 2016 02:00:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Thanks,Jim.

The German Ebay is a great source for Marklin stuff anyway,Marklin being a German company,it stands to reason that the number of Marklin items on offer is overwelming.
I buy most of my Marklin items that way.

Apart from the 3062/4062 Rio Grande A-A units i have the 3060/4060 A-A Santa Fe red/silver units and the 3362 A-B-A Santa Fe blue/silver units.
Some time ago i sold the 3349 A-B-A grey Demonstrator set,a great bargain with two motors,upon closer look rather beautiful,not a grey mouse really,i might buy it again!
As said,the magnificant 26600 California Zephyr is on the wishlist for 2017.

Noting you have the A-B-B combination that must be the 37629 Union Pacific,right?

The SF red/silver warbonnets were first issued in the early sixties,a boys dream!
I think those metal bodyshells are still used,be it with added detail,clear windows instead of milky windows,etc.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2...eName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Cheers,
Paul

My one lonely set of F7's are the A-B-B units pulling my 26600 California Zephyr. BTW, it just happens to be one of the most beautiful passenger train sets that I have ever seen! BigGrin

Totally agree on the warbonnets - if I can only have one F7 set, that is the one that it should be. Maybe someday!

Like you I have been dreaming of that locomotive since the 60's. I have been working really hard to not get a Super Chief, so far successfully. BigGrin

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline NS1200  
#5 Posted : 06 April 2016 08:01:30(UTC)
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Comparing the latest Marklin version of the Super Chief with the price of the 26600 set i would certainly opt for the latter!
There is no need to buy the Super Chief set anyway because most of the coaches were released as individual items years ago and can still be bought on internet or on fairs.

Check Marklin 37622, a red/silver warbonnet SF combination A-B digital with sound!
Price around Euro 200.- overhere.
Buy this set first and then one coach each year!
Note the loco already has clear windows,not the milky windows of the old version.

The set 26600 sells around Euro 600.- overhere,and i have blown my 2016 budget already!

http://www.vectis.co.uk/...tionImages/217/314_l.jpg

http://www.marklinistas..../GRR_F7/_media/ima04.jpg

Come to think of it,i might buy the 37622 this year,and the 26600 set next year!

Please also see the F7 in Alaska version,3462 analogue,3663 digital,nice loco!

Cheers,
Paul

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Offline BrandonVA  
#6 Posted : 06 April 2016 15:18:30(UTC)
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Hi all, here's a complete list of F7s produced by Marklin in H0 up until about 2003:

http://www.hfkern.de/Maerklin/USA_f7.html

Post 2003:

37618 - B&O A-B-B (mfx, 2 motors, era III), with tin-plate caboose
37624 - PRR A-B-A (mfx, 2 motors, era III)
37628 - KCS A-B-A (mfx, 2 motors, era VI)
37629 - UP A-B-B (mfx, 2 motors, era III), with tin-plate caboose
39620 - SOO Line A-B-A (mfx, 2 motors, era III), with plastic caboose
39621 - GN A-A (mfx, 2 motors, era III)
26496 - ATSF A-B-B "Super Chief" (mfx, 2 motors, era III), with coaches

To me, Marklin has had four distinct "generations" of F7.

1st generation - Original F7s, 3060, 3061, etc, 1961-1995. Milky windows, clear number boards, simple lighting (all lighting controlled by one bulb)

2nd generation - ATSF & Amtrak units between 1997-2002. These units have sharper paint than the 1st generation, clear windows, more realistic number boards (clear numbers on black backgrounds), simple lighting (all lighting controlled by one bulb).

3rd Generation - Three unit issues between 2002 and 2014 such as 37618, 37628, 37629. These units have excellent paint, clear windows, excellent number boards (white letters on black backgrounds, backlighted as previous versions). They also have grab irons on the nose and top of cab, simple lighting (all lighting controlled by one bulb)

4th Generation - 2014-present (issues such as 39620, 39621, 26496, onward). This generation uses an newer tooling with more realistic cab windows, cab interiors, marker lights, number boards the similar to 3rd generation in appearance, and grab irons on nose and top of cab. Paint is slightly improved from 3rd generation in detail. Numberboards can be digitally controlled separately from headlights. Some models feature a Mars light.

-Brandon
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Offline BrandonVA  
#7 Posted : 06 April 2016 15:29:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Comparing the latest Marklin version of the Super Chief with the price of the 26600 set i would certainly opt for the latter!


I am biased, but I agree for price. I got the California Zephyr set, 26600, a couple of years ago. Even though the set was introduced in 1999, it is still very competitive today. Just opening it, you realize what a premiere set it was, and how hard Marklin tried at the time to make it cutting edge. Having a separate decoder and lighting control for the coach set is a big plus in my opinion. There is also the option to expand the lenght of the train by adding more Vista Dome Coaches (Marklin 43614, "Silver Mustang, 2000-2009).

Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post

Check Marklin 37622, a red/silver warbonnet SF combination A-B digital with sound!
Price around Euro 200.- overhere.
Buy this set first and then one coach each year!
Note the loco already has clear windows,not the milky windows of the old version.



37622 is also a really nice set. Not quiet as detailed as the California Zephyr, but good enough to completely passable. The clear windows and improved number boards go more than far enough. The sound on these fx decoder F7 sets (37622 and 26600) is just great. I think it's some of the best sound Marklin have ever made. They really have a great growl, probably in part due to the huge speaker in the B unit. One note about 37622, look it over well, they came have some chipping on the nose paint of the locomotive and/or roof staining from the styrofoam in the box. The same goes for the roof to the WP CZ locomotives, make sure they have been stored with the plastic sheet in place.

-Brandon
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Offline witzlerh  
#8 Posted : 06 April 2016 16:03:09(UTC)
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Yeah. Now we just need the VIA Canadian...which the coaches are still in service!
Harald
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#9 Posted : 06 April 2016 17:06:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
To me, Marklin has had four distinct "generations" of F7.
Unlike earlier models, the newer ones have a gap at the rear below the door to accommodate cable harness between permanently coupled A and B units.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#10 Posted : 06 April 2016 17:11:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: witzlerh Go to Quoted Post
Yeah. Now we just need the VIA Canadian...which the coaches are still in service!


That reminds me, Candian F7s:

Marklin 37500 - Marklin Nordlander. This set had an F7A unit along with three cars from the RAm TEE (the prototype of which were purchased in 1976 and sent to Canada from Europe). The set is single motor, with the F7A unit being motorized, fx digital, sound, lighted coaches. This is an era IV livery.

-Brandon
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#11 Posted : 06 April 2016 17:14:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
There is no need to buy the Super Chief set anyway because most of the coaches were released as individual items years ago and can still be bought on internet or on fairs.

Check Marklin 37622, a red/silver warbonnet SF combination A-B digital with sound!
Price around Euro 200.- overhere.
Buy this set first and then one coach each year!
Note the loco already has clear windows,not the milky windows of the old version.
Does not have to be the SC all the time, the transcontinental trains 23/24 (formerly the "Grand Canyon Limited") were quite short and can be modeled easily with Maerklin stock, e.g. 37622 + 43603 + 43601 + 43601:
ATSF 85 - Apr 27 1968 - Westbound No 23 Eng 44 West of Starkville Colo - Jim Ozment-L.jpgATSF 85 - Apr 27 1968 - Westbound No 23 Eng 44 West of Starkville Colo - Jim Ozment
http://www.westernrailim...eka-Sante/Santa-Fe-1980s
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#12 Posted : 06 April 2016 17:20:40(UTC)
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Forgive me, slightly off-topic, since the thread started discussing "Shortcouplers for Marklin F7 Diesels", but closely related to my last post: Those short transcontinental ATSF trains 23/24 were pulled by Alco PA double-headers, too (Maerklin art. 37611/49611).
atsf2016grandcanyonshort.png
Source: "Pike Size Passenger Trains" [Model Railroader]
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Offline NS1200  
#13 Posted : 06 April 2016 20:06:56(UTC)
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Would love to see a Marklin F7 version in the CN colors,red,black and white.

http://www.railpictures..../2/7/6927.1136088000.jpg
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#14 Posted : 06 April 2016 23:14:34(UTC)
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Forum member Pierre Gillard once built a CN F7 by combining genuine F7 Märklin parts with improved Athearn shells.
2012-129769.jpg
https://www.marklin-user...can-HO-Layout#post375307
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Offline NS1200  
#15 Posted : 07 April 2016 11:51:44(UTC)
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About 3349 the A-B-A Demonstrator set:
I think it is best to buy this set at a fair and bring it home by means of own transport.
The one I bought on internet:
Arrived damaged because the Marklin carton box is too weak to protect the long and heavy locomotive during rough handling in postal facilities.
The innershell is made of thin hard plastic which easily cracks under the weight of the locomotive.
Mine had rocked back and forth causing deformed frontcouplings.
The hard innershell was found completely chipped into bits and pieces.

As an alternative,if buying from internet,you could ask sellers to take the three units out of the box and wrap them separately from the original packing,provided you want the Marklin box.

http://www.bing.com/imag...06eca0eo0&ajaxhist=0

And I think she is a hidden beauty:

http://www.bing.com/imag...f784e1fo0&ajaxhist=0
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Offline NS1200  
#16 Posted : 07 April 2016 12:06:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
There is no need to buy the Super Chief set anyway because most of the coaches were released as individual items years ago and can still be bought on internet or on fairs.

Check Marklin 37622, a red/silver warbonnet SF combination A-B digital with sound!
Price around Euro 200.- overhere.
Buy this set first and then one coach each year!
Note the loco already has clear windows,not the milky windows of the old version.
Does not have to be the SC all the time, the transcontinental trains 23/24 (formerly the "Grand Canyon Limited") were quite short and can be modeled easily with Maerklin stock, e.g. 37622 + 43603 + 43601 + 43601:
ATSF 85 - Apr 27 1968 - Westbound No 23 Eng 44 West of Starkville Colo - Jim Ozment-L.jpgATSF 85 - Apr 27 1968 - Westbound No 23 Eng 44 West of Starkville Colo - Jim Ozment
http://www.westernrailim...eka-Sante/Santa-Fe-1980s


Great idea!
This combination was sold on Ebay.de for Euro 450.-:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/M...gen-SpurH0-/271495012867

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#17 Posted : 07 April 2016 15:12:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Great idea!
Dankje.

Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
This combination was sold on Ebay.de for Euro 450.-:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/M...gen-SpurH0-/271495012867
Very close: Besides loco and baggage car, the sold consist consisted of a coach 43601 and an "incorrect" sleeper 43602 (Besides the interior, the window configuration differs). However, "late" ATSF trains 23 & 24 had been all-coach trains without sleeper service.

By the way, "De Tombe" in Oegstgeest near Leiden used to have for a long time a - seemingly new - Maerklin H0 scale streamliner in stock. Not sure if a 43601 coach or a 43602 sleeper though.
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Offline NS1200  
#18 Posted : 07 April 2016 15:59:03(UTC)
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Sorry,i was not so much concerned about the coach configuration as sold on Ebay.de.
It was just the combination of the 37622 A-B loco and the three coaches which caught my attention.

Whilst the 26600 set is still on the wishlist,i could do with the 3060/4060 I already have,and buy the 43601/43602/43603/43604/43614 coaches one by one.
I used to have all these coaches and sold them,likely because there were other essential needs in life at that moment.

The funny thing about these superb coaches is that they make you believe they follow the actual prototypes.
Not so,the Marklin coaches are made of aluminium,the prototypes were made of stainless steel..........
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#19 Posted : 08 April 2016 00:28:20(UTC)
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No reason to be sorry. In the end, it is about the fun and the Maerklin sensation.
:o)

Below a bonus pic of ATSF train 24 on my small layout.
;o)
train24badland2016.png
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#20 Posted : 08 April 2016 10:35:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
About 3349 the A-B-A Demonstrator set:... Arrived damaged because the Marklin carton box is too weak to protect the long and heavy locomotive during rough handling in postal facilities.
The innershell is made of thin hard plastic which easily cracks under the weight of the locomotive.
Mine had rocked back and forth causing deformed frontcouplings.
The hard innershell was found completely chipped into bits and pieces.
I experienced the same with the 3369, which I bought twice. The first one arrived in such a battered shape that I bought a second set, which arrived unharmed. In both cases the original plastic inlay of the Maerklin box was a totally disintegrated mess. Luckily, the sender of the second set anticipated this when packing. And fortunately, the 3349/3369 sets are affordable.

Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
About 3349 the A-B-A Demonstrator set:...And I think she is a hidden beauty:

I could not agree more (see pic 1).3349.jpg

While not hindered by any resembling to reality (see pic 2)...EMD_1950.jpg

...the livery plus black trucks and single headlight come quite close to the New York Central "lightning stripe" design (see pic 3).
nyc1782.jpg
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#21 Posted : 08 April 2016 13:00:25(UTC)
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And pretending that the 3349/3369 represents a loco from the New York Central (NYC) system, the Maerklin 2957x set caboose would be a perfect match. Painted in NYC Century Green, it is lettered for the NYC owned "Pittsburgh and Lake Erie Railroad" (P&LE).
P1150198.jpg

Below a prototype photo from Elkhart, Indiana.
722-0369.jpg
http://www.trainweb.org/...ips/050715A/050715A.html
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#22 Posted : 08 April 2016 13:03:39(UTC)
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And in H0 this NYC mock-up would look like this:
IMG_2641.jpg

Embellished with NYC tin plate cars.
IMG_2639.jpg
:o)
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Offline NS1200  
#23 Posted : 08 April 2016 14:18:20(UTC)
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Collecting Cabooses would be an art on its own!
In particular I like the Marklin tinplate cabooses,be it their construction is rather basic.
I recently bought the Southern Pacific version and it arrived completely disassembled in the Marklin blue box,nothing is glued together,tinplate parts simply pushed together and prone to go their own way.

I have reason to believe that the word Caboose comes from the Dutch word Kombuis,which is the word we still use for the "kitchen" (galley) on board of a seagoing vessel.
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Offline NS1200  
#24 Posted : 08 April 2016 15:41:35(UTC)
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I have reason to believe that the Marklin 3349 EMD Demonstrator set is based on the actual prototype of the GM EMD F3,not F7.
The F3 toured the USA in 1949,covered 125,000 miles,result being that orders were placed for 746 units.
If you google pictures for EMD F3 Demonstrator you will find a picture of an A-B-A combination in the colors of the Marklin 3349,including the nice logo on the front.

It happens to be that Lionel have released a version in O scale,not as nice as the Marklin version I must say.......
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#25 Posted : 08 April 2016 19:57:00(UTC)
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Hmmm, could you post a link or a photo?

Whenever I find a color photo of an EMD F-unit demonstrator (FT/F3/F7) the paint scheme is colorful, but not grey. There had been two F3 demonstrative sets, the #291 ABBA set built in July 1945 and #754, an ABA set; A-units were built in September 1946 and the B-unit came from the former #291 set. The #291 color photo I saw shows a bright blue paint scheme. For #754 I found only a black and white photo, which does not resemble the Maerklin "flow of lines" paint scheme.

I recall having read somewhere a German report about a Maerklin official stating around the time of the 3349/3369 release that there is finally no collector complaining about lack of prototypicality, since there is no prototype at all. However, I cannot retrieve the source...

BTW - to complete the confusion: According to the "Model Railroader" October 2006, pg. 60-65 drawings, the Maerklin shell is a F3 phase IV / F7 phase I.

:o)
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#26 Posted : 08 April 2016 20:13:30(UTC)
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Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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#27 Posted : 08 April 2016 20:56:21(UTC)
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With artistic license and some goodwill...
:o)
Offline BrandonVA  
#28 Posted : 08 April 2016 21:48:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

While not hindered by any resembling to reality (see pic 2)...EMD_1950.jpg


Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
I have reason to believe that the Marklin 3349 EMD Demonstrator set is based on the actual prototype of the GM EMD F3,not F7.
The F3 toured the USA in 1949,covered 125,000 miles,result being that orders were placed for 746 units.
If you google pictures for EMD F3 Demonstrator you will find a picture of an A-B-A combination in the colors of the Marklin 3349,including the nice logo on the front.

It happens to be that Lionel have released a version in O scale,not as nice as the Marklin version I must say.......


I can't find an F7 demonstrator looking like the Marklin version. However, here is a very close F3 lashup, save the yellow pinstripe, and perhaps the exact shade of gray.

UserPostedImage

-Brandon

Edit: I see Paul already found it :)
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#29 Posted : 08 April 2016 21:53:01(UTC)
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This is a little less inspired...

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#30 Posted : 08 April 2016 22:15:01(UTC)
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We can't forget about the surviving FT demonstrator set with its unique scheme...

FT A-B

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#31 Posted : 08 April 2016 22:27:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
I recently bought the Southern Pacific version and it arrived completely disassembled in the Marklin blue box,nothing is glued together,tinplate parts simply pushed together and prone to go their own way.
A loose caboose? Seems to be running in the family: My SP caboose shows the same symptoms. Regarding tin plate versions in my possession, UP as well as brown and blue ATSF ones behave, but the red ATSF caboose wants to be loose, too.
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#32 Posted : 09 April 2016 07:09:14(UTC)
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Loose cabooses:

Part of their charm i would say.
No clear windows,just open black holes,sliding roof,ladders simply pushed in without any firm connection to the car.....
The ladders by definition are at a negative angle of some sort.

Basically the same applies to the tinplate boxcars,you better not touch them,once you have the roof off,the whole sliding door arrangement goes its own way.

And,me being a lover of Marklin tinplate DB coaches,must confess that the roofs are not always firmly attached to the cars.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline jvuye  
#33 Posted : 09 April 2016 08:49:54(UTC)
jvuye

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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Collecting Cabooses would be an art on its own!
In particular I like the Marklin tinplate cabooses,be it their construction is rather basic.
I recently bought the Southern Pacific version and it arrived completely disassembled in the Marklin blue box,nothing is glued together,tinplate parts simply pushed together and prone to go their own way.

I have reason to believe that the word Caboose comes from the Dutch word Kombuis,which is the word we still use for the "kitchen" (galley) on board of a seagoing vessel.


Hmmm??
That's an interesting observation.
I always thought it was the "cab with the booze" Laugh

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Offline jvuye  
#34 Posted : 09 April 2016 08:52:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
...A loose caboose? Seems to be running in the family: My SP caboose shows the same symptoms. Regarding tin plate versions in my possession, UP as well as brown and blue ATSF ones behave, but the red ATSF caboose wants to be loose, too.


Ouch!
What's worse?
A loose Caboose or a loose Canyon?Cool
Cheers



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Offline NS1200  
#35 Posted : 09 April 2016 12:17:52(UTC)
NS1200

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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Collecting Cabooses would be an art on its own!
In particular I like the Marklin tinplate cabooses,be it their construction is rather basic.
I recently bought the Southern Pacific version and it arrived completely disassembled in the Marklin blue box,nothing is glued together,tinplate parts simply pushed together and prone to go their own way.

I have reason to believe that the word Caboose comes from the Dutch word Kombuis,which is the word we still use for the "kitchen" (galley) on board of a seagoing vessel.


Hmmm??
That's an interesting observation.
I always thought it was the "cab with the booze" Laugh



The Dutch word Kombuis holds the combination UI whereby the pronounciation can only be performed by the Dutch,but you can always try of course.
There is no English word as far as i know which has the same sound included.
As such,i think the locals in the USA quickly adopted the word Caboose,which was a bit easier for them.......

True or not true,it is an interesting possibility,right?

Here a South African Kombuis (=kitchen),the lady uses some Dutch words here and there,the area once was one of our playgrounds:



An Australian girl tries to say "buik" (=belly),hahaha!

Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline dickinsonj  
#36 Posted : 10 April 2016 15:54:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
I got the California Zephyr set, 26600, a couple of years ago. Even though the set was introduced in 1999, it is still very competitive today. Just opening it, you realize what a premiere set it was, and how hard Marklin tried at the time to make it cutting edge. Having a separate decoder and lighting control for the coach set is a big plus in my opinion. There is also the option to expand the length of the train by adding more Vista Dome Coaches (Marklin 43614, "Silver Mustang, 2000-2009).
-Brandon


It is off-topic but I have a question that pertains to the 43614 Silver Mustang. I added this coach to my CZ several years ago but I recently had to remove the coupler pocket that accepts the current conduction drawbar to replace a broken one in the observation car of the CZ. Does anyone have any advice on where I might find this part - I don't even have a part number to start with or any local dealers who could help me. I assume this part was used in other coaches and might be available if I knew where to look.

Thanks,

Jim
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
Offline Alsterstreek  
#37 Posted : 10 April 2016 16:15:39(UTC)
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Märklin spare part no.
EE579120

See link for photo:

https://www.marklin-user...10-and-579120#post456536
Offline Alsterstreek  
#38 Posted : 10 April 2016 16:21:39(UTC)
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EE579120 = "Deichsel" f. 436xx streamliner cars
Offline dickinsonj  
#39 Posted : 10 April 2016 18:51:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Märklin spare part no.
EE579120


Perfect - that is exactly what I need. I will probably get some extras when I find them because they seem to be pretty easy to break.

Update: I found them online here in the US and have already ordered them - soon my CZ consist will be back to full strength!

Thanks for helping me to figure that out!
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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