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Offline walters48  
#1 Posted : 02 January 2016 02:17:09(UTC)
walters48

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As the Koll Catalogs are written entirely in German, I have been unable to ascertain what grade/condition the price in Euros represents. Would one you Deutschlanders please explain this pricing system to me?
Thank you,
Chas
Offline 3rail4life  
#2 Posted : 02 January 2016 06:36:54(UTC)
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Hi Chas,

The Koll's prices are for flawless models in original condition without box, and from the 1960's on, with the original box.

Cheers,
Gordon
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Offline cookee_nz  
#3 Posted : 02 January 2016 06:41:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: walters48 Go to Quoted Post
As the Koll Catalogs are written entirely in German, I have been unable to ascertain what grade/condition the price in Euros represents. Would one you Deutschlanders please explain this pricing system to me?
Thank you,
Chas


My understanding of the grading system is that the highest price/grade represents an item in absolutely mint condition, completely original, all original items included. Ie 'Mint"

The next grade is for an item that much the same as above but which has had minimal use, ie test-use only, but still 99% original. It 'could' be missing something like the factory inspection tag, or maybe very light signs of handling to the box. ie "Excellent or near-mint"

Their lowest grade is still for an item in very good condition, again with original box, minimal handling wear, but could be an item which has seem some careful use and handling.. ie "Very Good to Excellent)"

Koll's does not take account of unbox items or item showing significant wear/playworn.

That level of pricing comes down to personal determination and so-called LHP "Love of Hearts Pricing"

Greenbergs book had an attempt at an English Pricing guide in the 90's but it was believed to be somewhat biased by the items held by the contributing authors.

Hope this helps, and I'm sure one of our more knowledgeable members will add to this.

Regards

Steve
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 02 January 2016 11:21:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post

Greenbergs book had an attempt at an English Pricing guide in the 90's but it was believed to be somewhat biased by the items held by the contributing authors.


My understanding is that the same applies to Kolls - which is why some items never appear in it, he never managed to obtain one.

Also some items have the price in brackets. As far as I can tell, this is because he has estimated the price because although the items are known, they are so rare that one hasn't changed hands in a long time so there is no baseline to estimate a price. Items that fall into this category tend to be pre-war items.

Prices are normally given in rounded Euros, but occasionally a decimal point with a cents value is shown. This is because at the time of the edition going to press that item was still a production item.

Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 02 January 2016 23:19:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Prices are normally given in rounded Euros, but occasionally a decimal point with a cents value is shown. This is because at the time of the edition going to press that item was still a production item.
RRPs are marked with an asterisk (*). Not all RRPs have decimals.

Regards
Tom
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#6 Posted : 03 January 2016 00:35:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Prices are normally given in rounded Euros, but occasionally a decimal point with a cents value is shown. This is because at the time of the edition going to press that item was still a production item.
RRPs are marked with an asterisk (*). Not all RRPs have decimals.



Ah, thanks for the explanation. Just that I had noted that items that I knew were being delivered around the time the catalogue went to press were shown at what looked like street prices, but i hadn't picked up on RRP.

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