 Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Hi Everybody  I do not know if I am on the good place, but I would like to announce you something that I saw quite a lot of time in videos: the very fast speed of the steam locos, even excessively fast. I saw locos which run about 160-180 km / hour It is crazy  and I give up the video   I don't like this speed but I understand ...some people like the excessive speed and I respect the choice of this people ...but personally it will not arrive to on my layout Have a nice day Thewolf |
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Hi! Originally Posted by: Thewolf  I saw locos which run about 160-180 km / hour That's the prototypical speed - for very few locos. That's within the NEM limits for many H0 locomotives. Many people run their trains too fast - often beyond the NEM limits. But seriously I support your move: on many layouts many locos run too fast - not just on video. Everybody is entitled to enjoy their layout their own way - if that includes high speed, let them have it. But those who share videos and want to achieve a prototypically correct impression are well advised to reduce the speed - especially if they want to show details of the trains. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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 Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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I totally agree, Wolf. It pains me to see trains running at breakneck speed, especially on small layouts! I like to see goods trains crawling along at walking pace, and passenger trains at a slightly faster speed but still fairly slow. Even modern passenger trains often go quite slowly through station areas and around sharp curves. To be able to achieve the speeds I like I am progressively upgrading all my delta and older-generatiion digital locos to newer speed-regulated decoders and, where possible, to 5 pole motors. Apart from that, as Tom suggests, you can appreciate their details better when they pass slowly past your eyes!  |
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Completely all right with you 2 Personally my B29 has a 100 kph maximum speed, I read about by that in reality this speed is 96 kph. My control software ( Itrain) allows me to check the speed by the calibration of the speed to reunite as much as possible the reality. The fun Thewolf |
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The ideal speed limit of the steam locomotives depends.
Also focus in difference era.
Era 1:15-90km/h
Era 2:Up to 110 km/h
Era 3-4:Up to 140 km/h
Freight traffic do have lower speed,while express do have higher speed.
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 Joined: 20/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 570 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife
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It worth noting that German, and probably other continental countries, imposed a maximum speed limit for each class and this would be displayed on the information panel on the side of the cab. In France there was for most of the steam era a blanket steam limit of 120 kph (75 mph) enforced by recordable speedometers. This led do the development of locomotives which could maintain a constant speed both up and down hill.
A useful rule if like me you still think in imperial units is that in HO one foot per second or perhaps more realistically ten feet in ten seconds is equal to a scale sixty miles per hour. When it comes to running our models we should also remember that trains acceleration is considerably slower than that of motor vehicles and of course running slower is a good way of making our layouts appear larger.
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Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto
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You may very well all be right, BUT I LOVE FAST LOCOS!  While I do love my latest little steam loco with smoke, I do wish it could go a lot faster. The thrill of two locos kind of racing each other is pure fun, fun, fun.  That's me. |
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baggio you may have to change your handle to Casey Jones
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My software does not let a train exceed the speed limit of any loco within the train, nor the speed limit of the section of track it is running in.
However, actual 1:87 scale speed looks very slow, so there is an accepted over-speed factor for each scale that makes it 'look' like the proper scale speed, and I do allow that.
Net result is that steam runs slower than others, heavy good trains run slower than commuters and the ICE is the fastest.
Recently I obtained a small video camera that I have placed at the front of a train and when one view the video from that point of view, it is clearly too fast!
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi Wolf, For you... Ian. ....
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Good joke Ian  Thewolf |
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Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,730 Location: Toronto
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Top speed, no doubt.  |
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