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john black		#51 Posted : 20 August 2008 00:45:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Your "knowledge" is at odds with the information received by other members of this forum from their dealers, but you dimiss this out of hand. So much did this upset one of our most popular members that he has left the forum. Fair right, Ray - a big shame, that is. And a dark day for this otherwise great forum [:(]
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Bigdaddynz		#52 Posted : 20 August 2008 01:08:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse <br />How much does it cost Big Daddy? I want a class 85. Too bad if I had to get a CS to aquire it!-----The B-O-S-S wouldn't like it! Spitz, I think the set cost around $NZ1700 ($US1200). There are ebay dealers who break these sets up, so you may be able to buy the class 85 without having to buy the rest of it. The set is certainly a fine one, I'd be tempted myself, but I don't need a 2nd CS (and if I did I'd wait for a CST2).
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Weltenbummler		#53 Posted : 20 August 2008 02:28:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Hi, did it ever come to your mind that the CS shown in the picture is a mock-up. A prototype just made out of wood to show what is possible or might be available in the near future. And therefore as I said before anything in this thread here is pure speculation
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nevw		#54 Posted : 20 August 2008 02:30:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		AS posted in another thread Lutz should not give up his other job to be the M Pr Man on this forum
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Guus		#55 Posted : 20 August 2008 02:47:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Off topic: Very nice sites you have Thomas! Kind regards Guus
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Bigdaddynz		#56 Posted : 20 August 2008 03:13:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br />did it ever come to your mind that the CS shown in the picture is a mock-up. Yep sure did, but then we have to have something to keep the forum going on!!
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Bigdaddynz		#57 Posted : 20 August 2008 04:47:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />Well, even you wrote that CS's can still be expected in the near future.... Sorry Lutz, please show me the post where I wrote that! I made reference to Charlie's post, where he states that stock may be available by October, but that is not the same as me writing it!
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TimR		#58 Posted : 20 August 2008 07:35:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: Well, even you wrote that CS's can still be expected in the near future.... Sorry Lutz, please show me the post where I wrote that! I made reference to Charlie's post, where he states that stock may be available by October, but that is not the same as me writing it! Back to the topic ... After nearly one year of "temporarily out of stock", I don't see the commercial merit of Marklin restarting production of 60212 as the secret is already out! A definately improved CS2 is already on the way! To move the old CS, M would either have to bundle them together with new mega sets or sell them at huge discounts to their dealers - as dealers now have to take a greater risk of stocking a product that is nearly the end of its model life cycle. This is akin to car dealers having to have to offer huge discount to move older models when the new ones began arriving - usually at around the same price of the model it replaces.. In the mean time, of course alternatives like ECoS would continue to dominate the central station market ... either way, I see this as a commercial blunder for M. The best way for them is to go is to speed up the introduction of CS2 to beat off their competitors.
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Bigdaddynz		#59 Posted : 20 August 2008 07:57:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Let's hope they do discount heavily, Tim. Then I might be able to afford one of those 1 Gauge starter sets!
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xxxxdown		#60 Posted : 20 August 2008 11:32:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/01/2008(UTC) Posts: 22 Location: ,		I have been with my mother , she has been sick and i have to take care of her. we have no computer or internet where I was living so I have not been reading forum until today. school got internet conection and they let me have look. I see that Herr Lutz is being very silly again. attacking peoples because they have a differnt minds to your mind. you should learn to be a good kind man
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RayF		#61 Posted : 20 August 2008 11:57:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br />Hi, did it ever come to your mind that the CS shown in the picture is a mock-up. A prototype just made out of wood to show what is possible or might be available in the near future. And therefore as I said before anything in this thread here is pure speculation Thomas, Isn't that what this forum is about? We hear about new things from Marklin, we speculate about whether they will be good or not so good, and we look forward to trying them out. Most of us are enthusiastic about our Marklin, so we want the new items to come out as quickly as possible. Speculation is good. It keeps us going! Ray
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john black		#62 Posted : 20 August 2008 15:14:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Yep sure did, but then we have to have something to keep the forum going on!! Fair right, BigDaddy and Ray. We just love conspiracy theories ... [}:)]
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john black		#63 Posted : 20 August 2008 15:18:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxxxdown <br />we have no computer or internet where I was living so I have not been reading forum until today. school got internet conection and they let me have look. ...
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Weltenbummler		#64 Posted : 20 August 2008 19:28:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus <br />Off topic: Very nice sites you have Thomas! Kind regards Guus Hi Guus, the layout site is my one. The database belongs to Frank, also a member (fr) here at the forum and a very good friend of mine here in Berlin I'm just helping a bit to fill this site with data. At the moment I haven't got that much time for both things. And on friday I'm going on a duty trip to a place which is in the media almost every day. Try to take lots of pictures to show afterwards. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />... Yep sure did, but then we have to have something to keep the forum going on!! ... And that's what makes this forum interesting. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />... Most of us are enthusiastic about our Marklin, so we want the new items to come out as quickly as possible. Speculation is good. It keeps us going! Ray Sure you're right Ray. But it doesn't have to end in a "war" between members just because one says he knows more than the other, etc...
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Webmaster		#65 Posted : 20 August 2008 23:32:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld But it doesn't have to end in a "war" between members just because one says he knows more than the other, etc... Thank you Thomas, this is what I try to say too now and then...
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nevw		#66 Posted : 21 August 2008 10:22:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Unfortunately Thomas, Lutz goes to full war footing when one makes a remark against Marklin, or if it is a different opinion to Lutz. Lutz starts the war with his provocitive posts and then blames others. Just like Germany against Poland in WW2. Unfortunately Lutz is the reason Stephen train left the Forum. as stated here: Originally posted by steventrain I have to decide give this forum because having trouble with Lutz. I am having to moving to another forum, So I cannot read this anymore now. Very sorry and goodbye for now. I will NOT return here now! Lutz will take a post and twist it to suit his purposes. and will never say he is wrong. NN
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RayF		#67 Posted : 21 August 2008 10:24:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Yes, we all know who started the war. (I mean here on the forum, of course!) Ray
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RayF		#68 Posted : 21 August 2008 10:26:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Oops, Nev beat me to it!
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nevw		#69 Posted : 21 August 2008 10:28:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Just Ray Just. I was adding more. NN
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RayF		#70 Posted : 21 August 2008 10:48:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Getting back to the topic, the CS might never again be delivered to customers, even if there is another (perhaps final) production run. This might be what was indicated to Steven and others by their dealers. It is likely that, if a few more are produced, they might be reserved for factory replacements and/or starter sets. ...but this is just speculation. Ray
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RayF		#71 Posted : 21 August 2008 10:53:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Your "knowledge" is at odds with the information received by other members of this forum from their dealers Instead of blaming me personally beyond all rules here, you should better contact Märklin personally (like I did) if you want to get clarification what's now "correct" regarding the continued availability of the CS. Not different to what I suggested as well already to Stephen. It would be really interesting to see the name of the dealer who gave him this information of "no more production", which is so different from the one given directly by Märklin. It would really be worth to be upset on someone who gave him such an information! I don't see how a statement of fact can be interpreted as a personal attack, Lutz, except that you take everything personally. However, as a gesture of goodwill, and to keep our esteemed webmaster sleeping well at night, I will refrain from commenting further on your contributions to this subject. Ray
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john black		#72 Posted : 21 August 2008 12:22:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />It would be really interesting to see the name of the dealer who gave him this information Hey, GF - we got news for you: 1) CSI is out of production 2) CSII coming by end of this year 3) Rather freezes hell before you get names Have a nice day FYI: GF = "good friend" ...
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Purellum		#73 Posted : 21 August 2008 13:01:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		I find it very hard to believe that 60212 will be available in great numbers, when this item is no longer produced: http://www.maerklin.de/d...tails.html?art_nr=610479 Thus my conspiracy theorie will be that the CS2 will have the right connectors for MS What Märklin plans for Ugly-Box(TM)-users I don't know; a new conspiracy theorie has to be invented Per.
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Weltenbummler		#74 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:06:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Hi Nev, sure I know the behaviour of a special member here and had my own experience in the late 90's and 2005. But the more any answer goes against his information, the more he starts to fight for his rights. Hi Bigdaddy, <s>I believe you're not going to start a good friendship with Märklin for the future. Cause this picture is a too close comparison to the Third Reich and may cost Juhan running this forum any longer.</s> I'm not a troll, I'm German as well as other members here, but I have a problem with pics like this. Thanks for deleting the mentioned pic And I don't go to the cellar for a good laugh. But if this thread here goes more and more in a direction which I can and will not understand I might be leaving this forum as well. Please let's concentrate on our hobby and do not bring all German members here in conjunction with one special German member.
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Sander van Wijk		#75 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:22:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi all, Although I try to stay away from the every now and then occurring topics like this one, I do want to make a statement here: NEVER MENTION THE BLOODY WAR! Neither by drawing parallels to it in text or pictures.
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TimR		#76 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:33:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Getting back to the topic, the CS might never again be delivered to customers, even if there is another (perhaps final) production run. This might be what was indicated to Steven and others by their dealers. It is likely that, if a few more are produced, they might be reserved for factory replacements and/or starter sets. ...but this is just speculation. Ray My thoughts exactly too Regardless of whatever that may be at the root of Marklin's problems, the fact is CS has been unavailable for far too long.. Most customers might as well consider CS out of production. Now that it might as well be obsolete as a new replacement is coming...
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john black		#77 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:37:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum <br />What M plans for Ugly-Box(TM)-users I don't know; a new conspiracy theorie has to be invented Good one, Per. Let's wait for UBII (TM by Flash ) You can connect it to your bank account ...
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David Dewar		#78 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:37:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		Gee its all happening when I am in my beddy byes. Thomas : I have German friends here two doors down from me and I also consider yourself to be a pal on this forum. I would like to be quite clear that Lutz is the problem and where he comes from is not. It is just unfortunate that he is in the same country as Marklin. I have just had to plod through 19 emails from the forum members including those who have left and it may well be that another group will be opened to which you would of course be very welcome as would Charles who also provides good information. As you say Thomas the problem has also appeared in the past and saying that Lutz can provide techinical information is just not an excuse for his behaviour as we have plenty of others who can provide the same without causing problems. This problem will continue as long as Lutz is a member here which is exactly what has happend in previous forums. It is of course up to Lutz himself as I have always said the door to my cave is open to all who enjoy fun and model rail and treat it in a light hearted manner. David
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TimR		#79 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:43:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Sander van Wijk <br />Hi all, Although I try to stay away from the every now and then occurring topics like this one, I do want to make a statement here: NEVER MENTION THE BLOODY WAR! Neither by drawing parallels to it in text or pictures. If I might add: Let us keep in mind that regardless of our often contradicting views in discussions like this, we are all still "Marklin Users" and that is the one common thing that we all share. Or.. maybe there is too much bickering because there is too much love for Marklin around here..
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supermoee		#80 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:49:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 534		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring From what i've seen , you are right However , are you so sure about the price , on a frenh forum someone has said he paid 349 E for this CS coming from startset in Switzerland Which is a good price (IMHO) Hello, the price I gave is related only to the Karstadt in Munich, not to Switzerland. rgds Stephan
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john black		#81 Posted : 21 August 2008 14:55:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi Stephan, with CSII on the rise - can we suppose the old one's price will go down rapidly, then ? Like they had to do with the very last CU6021 STARTER SET #29857 a few years back. €299.- [^]
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Bigdaddynz		#82 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:07:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Hi Stephan, with CSII on the rise - can we suppose the old one's price will go down rapidly, then ? Like they had to do with the very last CU6021 STARTER SET #29857 a few years back. �299.- [^] That probably won't happen until M actually annouces the CSII. BTW, I think I just bought the 2 blue cars in John's picture........so that's where they came from. Bought them to go with the 3 cars in my 29845 set.
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RayF		#83 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:14:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Well John, Now we're talking! I wouldn't mind the old CS if it came in a deal like that. Ray
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john black		#84 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:24:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi Ray , I don't wanna be a dealer with lots of this old controller in stock ... But in a bargain set it would be a nice one for our Grandkids. One only has to wait a bit CSI, track and cars for the rugrats - and the engine(s) for me [^] Cos of M's misleading statements [xx(] nobody guessed this thing would be deleted that fast !!! So let's wait how long CSII will stay. Oughta be the same as with cell phones today ... [}:)]
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Bigdaddynz		#85 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:39:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Hope they do it with a 1 Gauge starter set........or am I asking too much?
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mjrallare		#86 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:45:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR If I might add: Let us keep in mind that regardless of our often contradicting views in discussions like this, we are all still "Marklin Users" and that is the one common thing that we all share. Or.. maybe there is too much bickering because there is too much love for Marklin around here.. You're absolutely right! We all love Märklin and still we argue. This thread reminds me of an Astérix-book I read to my son this other night. It's called "Asterix och Tvedräkten" (swedish title), or in its original language (french) "La Zizanie". One of the main characters in that story is called "Semper Batallius" (swedish) or "Detritus" (french)... There really are som striking resemblances! /Torbjörn Sorry but I don't know the english names.[8)]
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Purellum		#87 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:48:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Per, you surely missed that Märklin "upgraded" this part number to now being product number 60124; this was even discussed in the forum here. Probably the best way to make sure customers (and their dealers) know what to order in addition when they want to connect their MS's to those many CS's that are still to come. You are right, I missed the post; but found it now. About being "Probably the best way" I don't know; I can't find it anywhere on Märklins webside. More than doubbleing the price can only be best for Märklin Per.
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john black		#88 Posted : 21 August 2008 15:59:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mjrallare <br />This thread reminds me of an Astérix-book I read to my son this other night. It's called "Asterix och Tvedräkten", or in its original language (french) "La Zizanie". One of the main characters in that story is called "Semper Batallius" or "Detritus" (french) ... There really are some striking resemblances! "Tullius Destructivus" (in Latin). Excellent, Torbjörn !!! Like most here you too see through the smoke ...
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Bigdaddynz		#89 Posted : 22 August 2008 00:16:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Ah Astérix, that along with the Tin Tin pictures posted in the Apollo 11 thread, remind me of my childhood.
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efel		#90 Posted : 22 August 2008 01:23:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 800		I'm happily surprised to see that Asterix is known in Sweden, USA, NZ. As shown above, it's really the mirror of the life!
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RayF		#91 Posted : 22 August 2008 01:27:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Asterix was my favourite reading material for years. I have books 1 to 22, then I gave up after one of the authors died, I think it was Uderzo? It just wasn't the same. Is it also funny in French? Ray
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RayF		#92 Posted : 22 August 2008 01:46:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Alea jacta est!
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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nevw		#93 Posted : 22 August 2008 02:19:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br />Hi Nev, sure I know the behaviour of a special member here and had my own experience in the late 90's and 2005. But the more any answer goes against his information, the more he starts to fight for his rights. And I don't go to the cellar for a good laugh. But if this thread here goes more and more in a direction which I can and will not understand I might be leaving this forum as well. Please let's concentrate on our hobby and do not bring all German members here in conjunction with one special German member. Thomas, In my remark re Germans I was referring to only one member. No other. I hope that other members can see this. [size=2]If not I apologise to all German Members bar One.
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efel		#94 Posted : 22 August 2008 02:23:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 800		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Is it also funny in French? Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />then I gave up after one of the authors died, I think it was Uderzo? It just wasn't the same. You are right! Hope we don't have to give up this forum as it is becoming "not the same" Fred
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Bigdaddynz		#95 Posted : 22 August 2008 03:36:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Don't worry Fred, the good guys here out number the bad ones, so you are safe. Any one who likes Astérix has to be OK, in my book!
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mvd71		#96 Posted : 22 August 2008 12:41:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,		Oh yes, I read all the Asterix books in the Pinehaven library when i was a smaller child. A very enjoyable way to spend rainy days during school holidays!
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Purellum		#97 Posted : 22 August 2008 13:49:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		I'm sorry Lutz; I just don't get it [:I] I have found the same page you now show; but where shall I "gewünschte Stückzahl eintragen" I can't find either availability status or price Using the 60124 number I get " Teil unbekannt oder nicht mehr lieferbar" or "Leider konnte zu Ihre Suchanfrage kein Produkt gefunden werden" Note: I don't need this item, I just can't find the information you say I should be able to find [:I] Is this information for insiders only Per.
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RayF		#98 Posted : 22 August 2008 14:01:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Only for the "Inner Circle", on a need-to-know basis.
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Macfire		#99 Posted : 22 August 2008 15:50:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Okay. Given the latest info in the parallel thread - What happens now????? Availability now a non-issue?
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supermoee		#100 Posted : 25 August 2008 12:40:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 534		Hello Strange, the shop that last week had so many CS1 on stock, took these out from his homepage and is already taking orders for the CS2: www.stucki.spielwaren.ch why, if the CS1 should not be discontinued? rgds Stephan
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