Märklin Storeloco 39955 "Jacobs Kaffee" limited to 500 - Only from Märklin Stores:
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Hello,

the selling of the normal VT95 seems not to be succesful. The pricing is going down and now they are already coming out with limited editions with alternative paintings and weatherings. This happened quite fast.

rgds

Stephan

Hi Stephen,

It could be a factor, but other locos with 3 pole motors have sold well, I think, and most owners don't really care what the motor is if it runs OK.

The real one wasn't fitted with a bell?

Realistically, they are not going back to the expensive C-Sine or SDS motors, with their non-standard decoder requirements.

Best we can hope for is a Faulhaber type motor, but those are also expensive. I think we might as well get used to the fact that they are going to carry on using these new 3 pole motors....

Ouch! That sort of implies that I'm the only person in the world happy with a Marklin model with a 3 pole motor. I've seen several posts in this forum of members saying they're quite happy with their new locos when the loco in question has definitely had a 3 pole motor. Not everyone is as unhappy with the new motors as you seem to think.



I bow to your superior knowledge. I just couldn't see a bell in any of the photos I've seen of the model or the prototype.

The bell is hidden under the train:
See this post on DSO:
http://www.drehscheibe-o...oren/read.php?17,7018811

You may have to click the link twice. Search for "E 76" to find a picture that is clear as mud.

Long story short: you cannot see it on the model, but the prototype had it and it's nice to get the sound of a bell with an era III model.

So that's why I couln't find one!

Thanks for the info!

I just ordered the model and hope to pick it up in about 4 weeks time when I am in Germany,,,

We always get told its too expensive and we have to cut back and the fact is it has nothing to do with the model, its the shareholder and profit margins which dominate and drive these actions and we as train enthusiasts pay more and get less, haven't heard anything bad about the 3 pole motor so far.

I like to know how much money they pour into marketing to be affective and how much goes into the design and which market strategy cuts corners, I don't think its the marketing and I think there is more energy going into marketing to convince the buyer he's getting a good deal for his new loco, I also think locos are these days a byproduct of the ever growing and necessary marketing power, just look at car advertising, GPS and bluetooth are the dominant advertising factors about buying a new car.

Hi!

If anyone is interested there is a very thorough test available on Youtube from
Modellbahnshop-Lippe.



It's not the "Kaffee" version but should give an idea about the sounds and running caracteristics of the model.

I would also like to add that the Märklin three pole is possible to "tame" with the use of a good decoder like an ESU or Zimo. The motor can be made to run incredibly smooth, very similar to a ROCO motor.

Only problem I've experienced is with the carbon brushes. These can start to make a hissing noise at low speed. It's an easy fix though. After pulling the flywheels off. Just pry apart the two metal tabs holding the motor together and pull the rotor out. Clean the brushes and the commutators and put everything back in reverse order. Fixed! Great motors!

Best Regards!

Emil

It can only show red and it only goes backwards during shunting. In real operation the trailer is always at the rear end (this is no push/pull train).

The coupler pockets are lower than normal and there could be problems with the centre rail studs on turnouts.

Buy two and run a push/pull consist VT+VB+VB+VT.

Mine has been ordered

BR

Glenn

A wye at your terminal station is another solution. We agree there is no easy way to uncouple and "run around", besides only one coupler on each unit has current conducting capabilities. So even if current conducting couplers would work, your trailer wouldn't have any power for its lights. You may be able to fix that, but I have not disassembeled my 39984 to see if the conducting clips could be added to the coupler pockets. A turntable would work, but that isn't cheap and more than I think one would find at a (prototype) branch terminal station. A wye would allow you to turn it all around. It would't need to be to large either since it is only a two unit consist.

Very sure. Yesterday I added a bell function to my ESU decoder. The sinus drive does not permit a download to the decoder when installed in the lok. So I seperated the two units to make handling it easier as I removed the decoder. When I put it back together, the missing coupler pocket clip allowed me to readily determine "front" and "back".

Perhaps they are, but as we can't get Marklin to do the same on coach sets with factory lighting and factory supplied current conducting couplers (we are forced into a fixed car placement and direction), I would find it odd that they decided to do something different on a set that uses a "permanent" coupler requiring the equivalent of the hand of God to remove the consist from the track and separate the the two pieces so you could then operate the VT95.9 as the DB does.



Tom, I figured you of all people here at M-users would take Marklin's product description with a grain of salt (now recollecting the motor icon with five stars thread). I see no reason for Marklin to make them current capable when there is no (model railroading capable) situation where you could operate it as the DB did. By the time you remove it from the track to separate the pieces and swap position, you could just flip it around and not have to mess with uncoupling the drawbar. You yourself said the coupler pocket is probably too low for the current conducting couplers (post #27), so you couldn't just replace the drawbar and uncouple the motor coach and run it around to the other side. Unnecessary current capable couplers would also run counter to their "If it works without this part, why supply it?" cost cutting attitude.



Hopefully someone will, I'm curious. At the moment, it appears I am the only one here with a mechanically identical unit, sinus drive excepted.

I got your point, you say it is a completely different model as it is based on a different prototype. I say that although the body moldings may be different due to differences between the VT95 and VT98, the mechanics of 39984 and 39950/39955 are the same underneath that body molding with the exception of the motor. Compare the (extensive) instructions to replace the rubber tire on both units. With the exception that 39984 provides part numbers in the instructions that match the exploded parts diagram at the back of the manual, they are identical. You VT95 guys btw will want to download that manual since those referenced part numbers make it easier to understand what you are doing. "Remove four screws, #4" is much clearer than "Remove four screws". I am not the only one who says these instructions are the same, see link below. Also compare the exploded diagrams themselves. The pieces are physically the same. The only difference is the instructions for 39984 provide part numbers for most every part. 39950/39955 only provides replacement part numbers for a few parts. Another result of the cost cutting measures. I know Marklin claim the 39950 is "Completely new tooling". We also wait for years for a loko update, but they will scrap the newish (2006 release) 39980/39984 VT98 tooling that will work with a VT95? And to what aim? Clearly not to make it easier to service, nor make the speaker less obtrussive in the interior. Both valid complaints I would hope "all new tooling" would correct. Based on all the arguments I have just provided, I maintain completely new tooling is an error in the 39950 description. The trailer car is the only completely new tooled component. I am not saying the product description is inaccurate on purpose, just a mistake. It is due to this identical mechanical structure of the power unit that I provided info based on what I have observed with my 39984. If you feel those observations are irrelevant, so be it.

https://www.marklin-user...and-body.aspx#post457450

Edited by user 23 August 2014 04:17:49(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I expected that.
The product database contains many incorrect information, caused by their maintenance method with care for detail and love for accuracy (the method is known as "quick'n'dirty cut'n'paste").
But if they write something new then it's often true for the model where they use the text for the first time.

Rumours say that Märklin had been negotiating with T4T about the automatic T4T couplers.
This VT 95.9 (39950 and 39955) would be an excellent candidate for that type of coupler. The lowered NEM pockets shouldn't be a problem here.

Rumours say that the T4T offer was only a few cents more expensive (per coupler) than Mother M's expectations, but they couldn't come to an agreement in the end.

Powering both sides also reduces "lights not working false alerts" when people connect trains the wrong way. With the new model there is no wrong way.

AS far AS I know, the VT95.9 has a five pole motor! The VT75.9 has a 5 pole Motor, too. The same for the BR 89.75. These very small and compact Motors are 5 pole.

Therefore, the motor is quite good, not as good as the SDS but much better then the 3-pole China drives. If there is a VT 95.9 for 160€, I will buy one (I paid this price for my VT75.9 with sound).

39955 is starting delivery.

39955 is now complete sold out.