Hi Eddie,

Swiss 2-6-6-2 type "Crocodiles" can be said to be small or large depending of the model in H0 scale. Actually the "large" ones are not in correct H0 scale and these are the ones based on old Märklin CCS 800 and 3015 models. There is one analog brown "large" one 30159 that was the Insider model in 1996. Other than these there are the digital version of this brown "large" insider model = 36159. There are also green and white "large" Crocodiles in the sets 31859 and 31860. All of these are full metal models with large motor in the middle and cardan shafts supply the power to all large driving wheels (6 wheels per side).

The smaller correct H0 1:87 scale Crocodiles are made in many, many versions. Some of the earlier versions were analog and had a plastic body. In 3300 set there were a metalbody Swiss Crocodile with an German Crocodile. Almost all are metal models and their prototype is Be 6/8 III, Ce 6/8 II or Ce 6/8 III. There have been many different liveries like different green ones, brown ones, black (fantasy) ones, blue (fantasy?) one...

The newest Ce 6/8 II models have two motors and again all large driving wheels (12 in total) are driven by these two motors. Before these ones all the Be 6/8 III and Ce 6/8 III models had only one motor and 6 driving wheels (other ends larger wheels). The other ends larger wheels were running freely without any supplied power from the motor.

Here some examples:

3756 green full metal with DCM 5-pole motor. Made in two versions Be 6/8 III and Ce 6/8 III. These are from the 1990's and digital, no mfx.

39560 green full metal with C-Sinus motor. 39561 brown full metal with C-Sinus motor. These are both Ce 6/8 III and made in 2000's. Digital, no mfx.

39563 green full metal with SDS motor, 39565 brown full metal with SDS motor. These are also both Ce 6/8 III and made later than the example models above. Digital with mfx. 39563 has only whistle sound and 39565 has full sounds.

37565 green and brown Ce 6/8 II newest type two motored Crocodiles. Digital, full sounds and mfx.

By writing these model numbers of these Crocodiles you can see more details or photos from Google.

You are right that there is also the Swiss "baby Crocodile" having 2-4-4-2 wheel arrangement. There are some versions of this too and all are full metal.

Regards,
Janne

How about 37337 sometimes known as the French croc

Hi Eddie,

See post #6 in this topic and the fourth photo in it. There is an Austian Crocodile. In my opinion red siderods looks better in black "fantasy Crocodile" having also red wheels than green Austrian Crocodile with black wheels, but this is just my opinion.

The original nick name "Crocodile" should be used for locomotives with articulated frames and siderods. So even German E94 or BR E 194 ones are not real "Crocodiles" in my opinion as they don't have siderods. But Swiss Be 6/8 III, Ce 6/8 II, Ce 6/8 III and De 6/6 "Baby Crocodiles" are "the real ones" . Other forum members may disagree...

Cheers,
Janne

I agree Janne, I only put the flat iron in the mix, as I don't own a Marklin croc yet I will get there thoe. And I can become a proud owner.
I have mentioned before on the forum that I would like the heavy shunter conversion of the croc. Can you tell me if these crocs were the same type, which has recently been new tooling by Marklin, or the older tooling. I now it's been done in Gauge one by them. And by that other make in HO But I want a nice metal Marklin one

Thanks guys , I stand corrected. Eddie

Shunting Crocodile (1 scale 1:32 one) is the Ce 6/8 II type so the same type as the newest tooling H0 scale 1:87 two motor versions. But there is not yet this model having only one pantograph in H0 scale available from Märklin. Maybe later they will produce this as it should not be too difficult to do the modifications to be able to sell this version also.

Cheers,
Janne