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Hi there, Recent developments call for a new thread. I start with a number of treasures floating around the forum lately: 1) Krauss-Maffei ML built in the 1960s for the US market and tested, inter alia, in Austria. 2) Rebuilt 1930s ATSF EMC diesel #1 B-unit. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Not much info about this odd fellow. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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On the island of Sylt off the North German coast operated until 1970 the "Sylter Inselbahn" on 1000 mm narrow gauge. In the 1950s Borgward trucks were converted for passenger transport. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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These are monsters.... How did they think while designing these ? .... The classic Schienenzeppelin also fall into this category.... The meat grinder at the back looks like it can suck the guys on the platform into it in the last pic...  Webmaster attached the following image(s): |
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Mutated in 1909, " Beyer Peacock works photograph of K1, the world's very first Garrat steam locomotive, built for the North East Dundas Tramway in Tasmania. This engine is now preserved at the Welsh Highland Railway." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GarrattY |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  Not much info about this odd fellow. Here is what I found: "Southern San Luis Valley RR D-500 locomotive home built in 1955 on steam locomotive tender trucks, powered by a chain drive from International Harvester diesel engine, Blanca, Colorado." Another angle:  -Brandon |
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Another couple of Southern San Louis Valley RR masterpieces. Apparently they didn't have much money, and preferred to DIY. Note the tires on the second one...   |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  On the island of Sylt off the North German coast operated until 1970 the "Sylter Inselbahn" on 1000 mm narrow gauge. In the 1950s Borgward trucks were converted for passenger transport. Let's stick a cow catcher on that thing.  |
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Somebody could not make up his or her mind - steam or diesel punk? Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  And the floodgates open...
How about a remote control B unit? Introducing the "Haysi 1" Eery.  I would have baptized this one "Polyphem" instead. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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 Transnet Freight Rail's "Luxrailer Inspection Trolle", Lions River, South Africa 2013 -Brandon |
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Small is beautiful? (1) Loco with Moskovich car engine, Krasnoyarsk, Russia (1960s) (2) Loco in Omsk, Russia (1960s) (3) Combined Ship & Railway Loco (100 years-old ad of German chocolate company) Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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If you want something bigger then, there are these...  Southern Railway class Q1 0-6-0 No 33020 (British Railways) Clapham Junction, London, 1963. Info: http://www.railpictures.net/vie...p?id=452171&nseq=125 EMD BB40-T3 (Former SD40-T2). Divinópolis (MG), Brazil, 2012 "An Ex Southern Pacific SD40-T2 rebuilt by Progress Rail to run in meter gauge. In Brazil, It's called "Titanic" due to the length of the platform." Apparently they added axles to reduce loading on the rails as well. Info: http://www.railpictures.net/vie...p?id=441224&nseq=197-Brandon |
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English equipment: (1) Southern Railway "Q1" (1) Partly-built "Leader" Nº3 in Brighton Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Spanish steam loco 140.2438 Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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It is a low rider!  |
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I am not so sure if these are ugly, but they may be classified as "monsters" since they were built in GE in Schenectady, NY in 1927, and are still in regular revenue use today (not tourist rail). 87 years for any machine is pretty scary! GE Boxcar 289A in Tocopilla, Chile, 2013  Info: http://www.railpictures.net/vie...hp?id=464420&nseq=55-Brandon |
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The Q1 would be perfect for Märklin "MyWorld"... |
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While on GE, the E33 at the now defunct Potomac Clarification Yards in Alexandria, VA in 1978. This is one different duckling. As a side note, Potomac Yards would handle 4000-5000 cars a day, working 24/7. During WWII the traffic doubled.  -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster  The Q1 would be perfect for Märklin "MyWorld"... I know! I can only assume the pistons are inside the frame? It was listed as an austerity model, somewhat like BR52 and the like, built to the simplest means possible to conserve resources. -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  It is a low rider!  Low riders? What's next...wait...check out these rims!  Fontaine Locomotive (listed on one page as "The Fontaine Freak." Built in 1881 to try and address some perceived engineering challenges and increase efficiency and speed. It did not. -Brandon |
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Another case of "How did they think?".... Would be very interesting to know/follow the reasoning behind some of the designs....  |
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster  Another case of "How did they think?".... Would be very interesting to know/follow the reasoning behind some of the designs....  Juhan, If you are interested, take a look here: http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odcuri.HtmlThis is what is written on the page about this locomotive: "The Fontaine Freak. In 1881 the Grant Locomotive Works, of Paterson, N. J., built a locomotive, Fig. 11, designed by Eugene Fontaine, of Detroit, which excited great attention for a few years owing to the radical departure from established practice in designing locomotives. Fontaine built his engine with the driving wheels above the boiler, so arranged that their tread pressed upon and transmitted motion to the carrying wheels by frictional contact. The reasons given by the designer for building this form of an engine were: "The question of faster speed in railroad travel is one that is now attracting attention on the part of the public, who demand it, and of the railroads, who are anxious to meet the demand. "It is well known that to increase speed in locomotives, as now used, beyond a certain rate, can only be done by an increase of steam pressure, which can only be obtained by increased expenditure of fuel, and such an expense increases in a tenfold ratio to the increased rate of speed obtained, to say nothing about the additional strain upon the boiler." To overcome these imaginary deficiencies the locomotive with two driving wheels set up in the air above two other driving wheels that rested on the rail was built and put in service. There was considerable discussion on the invention, but there were very few engineers who believed that any advantage of steam or economy could be secured by the wheel arrangement adopted. Their judgment was vindicated by the results of practical service. The engine was tried on all kinds of trains, but proved inferior in every respect to the ordinary engines of the same capacity. The engine was examined as a curiosity in a variety of roundhouses for a few years. There was always something needed to make its work satisfactory. After many changes the proper one was made when it was converted into an ordinary eight wheel engine." There's some more interesting "how did they think?" versions on this page as well. -Brandon |
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Not sure how to classify these, maybe as mummies? (1) AMTRAK rebuilt RS 3MS (2) Rebuilt RS 3 (3) RS1 ... Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Ahm, yes: ICE "locos" in Germany: 1) 2011 near Nuremberg 2) 2013 in Hamburg Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  Krauss-Maffei ML built in the 1960s for the US market and tested, inter alia, in Austria.
Produced by Rivarossi 1964-1981 with SP and D&RGW liveries - see pix. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  Ahm, yes: ICE "locos" in Germany: 1) 2011 near Nuremberg 2) 2013 in Hamburg
I like the ICEs, but without the coaches and missing parts, they are really some monsters... Cheers, Walter
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PRR Baldwin DR-12-8-1500/2 "Centipede" sighted in Altoona, PA 1951 BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Saratoga and North Creek Railway's BL2 which looks to me like a streamlined EMD SW1200 switcher. North Creek, New York, 2013 BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  PRR Baldwin BP60T "Centipede" sighted in Altoona, PA 1951 This is a "monster" indeed - in a positive way... |
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster  This is a "monster" indeed - in a positive way... More wheels is always better, right?  |
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And in the same vein,  2ft gauge loco based on the Field Marshal tractor. Single cylinder Diesel (yes really). Started with a modified shotgun cartridge without shot. The small handle in the nose below the number is removed and a burning paper is fitted into a holder. The cartridge is placed into a receptacle on the right of the nose and a hammer is used to strike a pin - firing the cartridge when if you are lucky the engine starts ! And further to the "Centipede" posts here is my Demonstrator pair by Broadway Limited.  Regards, Colin.
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  PRR Baldwin DR-12-8-1500/2 "Centipede" sighted in Altoona, PA 1951 Send this photo to Marklin's marketing department please and maybe a wise man see the locomotive and marklin make it for us.
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Originally Posted by: EMD_GP7  And in the same vein,
2ft gauge loco based on the Field Marshal tractor. Single cylinder Diesel (yes really). Started with a modified shotgun cartridge without shot. The small handle in the nose below the number is removed and a burning paper is fitted into a holder. The cartridge is placed into a receptacle on the right of the nose and a hammer is used to strike a pin - firing the cartridge when if you are lucky the engine starts !
Oh yeah, modified shotgun shell...that's how I start my lawn mower too.  Very interesting! Presenting the ugliest GP40 duck you've ever seen...Herzon Railway Service's modified GP-40 at BNSF Lindenwood Yard in Saint Louis, MO, 2012. BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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GM's "Aerotrain" in PRR livery, Newark, New Jersey 1956. These didn't last long, despite looking like a giant Buick.  And the back:  BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Quote:GM's "Aerotrain" in PRR livery, Newark, New Jersey 1956. These didn't last long, despite looking like a giant Buick. I quite like these. In fact I have a model. Con-Cor DCC & sound.  Regards, Colin.
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Hi all. The Aerotrain was a child of it's time along with Juke Boxes and Huge fins on cars. It was a rough and ready thing using a Switcher (shunter) engine and GM bus body parts for the coaches and rode terribly. If you want a real scary monster then how about this.  Darth Vader springs to mind ! Union Pacific M10000 streamliner of 1936. Not Diesel but spark ignition "Distillate" engine. Model by Con-Cor in H0 scale. Regards, Colin.
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Wow Colin: HO scale models of "Centipede" Demonstrator pair, GM's "Aerotrain" & Union Pacific M10000 streamliner. I would like to reiterate that you do have a fine and tasteful selection of rare machines!  |
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