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Offline I_love_Marklin_37538  
#151 Posted : 04 December 2013 12:13:15(UTC)
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May I troll Paul please?
Offline kweekalot  
#152 Posted : 04 December 2013 13:07:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Go to Quoted Post
May I troll Paul please?

No you may not, I hate to see anyone upset, so please don't say things that are way out of line.
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Offline Goofy  
#153 Posted : 04 December 2013 18:36:15(UTC)
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I know myself that Marklin are always depending of customer to survive by shop train products.
Maybe now when i start Marklin again to become marklinist,it will become plus for the Company... Wink
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Offline old toot  
#154 Posted : 04 December 2013 20:31:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
And... Any more news on the product line this topic really is about? Wink

here's a new addition to the marklin my world range 29207
these are selling well grandads are buying these as well as a pack they can have at their place and pull out when the grankids come around
and because its all c track easy setup and pack away this one is brother to the MAUS 29206 one

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Offline Webmaster  
#155 Posted : 04 December 2013 20:41:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Go to Quoted Post
May I troll Paul please?

No you may not, I hate to see anyone upset, so please don't say things that are way out of line.


Good advice there... We try to be the friendliest forum on the net, so there is no need to stir things up more than some members manage to do by themselves...

@Goofy - Starting with Märklin again? - maybe the new planned "kiddie sets" are for you??? BigGrin LOL
Just kidding, of course... Smile


I am still interested in what would be the new starter/Hobby line that Mr Siebel Jr is contemplating upon...
It has to be contemporary, both in models & technology so the youngsters feel comfortable and can show genuine interest...
For the very youngest, battery operated & remote control as the current MyWorld would maybe be ok, but when you get around 9-10 - you need "more"...
In my personal opinion though, the old M-track analog that could take some beating and have slight glitches in the track layout is still better than battery trains
on a C-track, since there is not so much "compromise" laying tracks as what you could get away with using M-track... M-track inspired creativity in a young mind...

Most youngsters will be lost anyway in the teens and some years upwards due to "other interests" - read "hormones", "future success dreams", maybe "education" and then "career"...
But if the interest is caught in the childhood years, then they maybe will (as many of us) regain the interest when kids & family are started up... Or if we are old enough to say that
we liked what we did as kids, and now we can afford it and maybe make those childhood dreams of a big layout finally come true...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Old Chinese Proverb]
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Offline BrandonVA  
#156 Posted : 04 December 2013 21:27:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post

But if the interest is caught in the childhood years, then they maybe will (as many of us) regain the interest when kids & family are started up... Or if we are old enough to say that
we liked what we did as kids, and now we can afford it and maybe make those childhood dreams of a big layout finally come true...


I think this is a big part of the puzzle, to retain the draw to bring you back. Not many of us have returned to Lincoln logs or GI Joes (no offense to these toys). It should be flexibly to be exciting and creative for children, but have the ability to be involved enough for adults. I am excited to see what it will be.

-Brandon
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Offline Goofy  
#157 Posted : 05 December 2013 07:28:04(UTC)
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Juhan has right!
When i was kid,there was no hobby or and "My world".
There was anyway start set and mostley of kids was happy to get Marklin start set.
This was before PC did invided in every house.
Today Marklin knows the problem when other toys and electronic technology can also beat out train toys.
We should be glad and happy,that Marklin keep on to support marklinist who really believes theirs products.
It´s all question what to do and support customer.
Kids and grown up people are the customer.

Carpi Diem
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Offline H0  
#158 Posted : 20 December 2013 19:14:53(UTC)
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Found a new article:
http://www.swp.de/ulm/na...erzimmer;art4325,2357636

"Zudem will Märklin Produkte mit Geschenkcharakter kreieren, die über neue Vertriebsschienen wie Elektronikmärkte oder Buchhandelsketten angeboten werden. Zur Spielwarenmesse plant Märklin mit dem Brettspielhersteller Noris zwei Produkte, die in Richtung Puzzle oder "Malen nach Zahlen" gehen. Zielgruppe sind Frauen und Männer ab 40."

Optimized google translation:
"In addition Märklin want to create products with gift character that are offered on new distribution channels such as electronic markets, or bookstore chains. For the Toy Fair Marklin plans two products with the board game manufacturer Noris that go towards puzzle or "painting by numbers". The target group are women and men ago 40+."

Michael Sieber is CEO of Noris.
Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline Webmaster  
#159 Posted : 20 December 2013 21:15:40(UTC)
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I think it's a good idea to "interweave" model trains into the general toy & game market, let's see if this widens the horizons for the "general public"... The Märklin brand is still a strong brand name and known by many as the "equivalent" of model/toy trains, but the brand knowledge is still a bit unexposed outside that scope...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline BrandonVA  
#160 Posted : 20 December 2013 22:31:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
I think it's a good idea to "interweave" model trains into the general toy & game market, let's see if this widens the horizons for the "general public"... The Märklin brand is still a strong brand name and known by many as the "equivalent" of model/toy trains, but the brand knowledge is still a bit unexposed outside that scope...


Why not, Marklin entered the market in 1859 making toys other than trains :D
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Offline Osterthun  
#161 Posted : 21 December 2013 14:37:27(UTC)
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Hi gents (and damsels),

I have read some of the posts above. I feel the urge to comment on something Paul said.

I do happen to know the Rotterdam shop Paul is referring to as well. (This can only be M&B).
The fact that they keep their prices up is a fact that suits them for many years past. It has never changed for better.
There was a saying about this shop in particular, which also counts for K. in Utrecht: "Their trains' prices include the price of the ties and suits these dealers wear. But their arrogance is for free."
No hard feelings, but that's one reason why I never go to stores like these again.

I rather take my car and drive some miles further away to this very kind dealer (the same one indeed, who so generously renders me the keys of his shop for shooting whatever old and new stuff there is).
Here I purchased the larger part of my collection over the past 15 years, with excellent service and friendliness. Coffee and a fine chat are for free...

Frits
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Offline pab  
#162 Posted : 21 December 2013 15:07:34(UTC)
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When I started this hobby it was common use to have model trains in toy shops and department houses. In the 80ies most of the train departments in the general toyshops disappeared for a number of reasons like less interest, but also a growing collection and higher prices. The buyers became more demanding. So a specialisation was needed. Compare the market for gaming computers, those products also moved to more specialized shops. The cd/dvd/br world moves more and more to the internet shops.
When we were looking for Christmas presents for our grandson I saw, to my surprise, some Märklin my world sets for a reasonable price in our local general toyshop. But toys are also moving to the webshops. In general good prices, delivery the next day and a better choice.

So yes, I think that it is good to start selling in general toy stores, but I do like a specialised shop with a salesperson that knows what he is talking about.
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Offline old toot  
#163 Posted : 30 December 2013 01:06:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Osterthun Go to Quoted Post
Hi gents (and damsels),

I have read some of the posts above. I feel the urge to comment on something Paul said.

I do happen to know the Rotterdam shop Paul is referring to as well. (This can only be M&B).
The fact that they keep their prices up is a fact that suits them for many years past. It has never changed for better.
There was a saying about this shop in particular, which also counts for K. in Utrecht: "Their trains' prices include the price of the ties and suits these dealers wear. But their arrogance is for free."
No hard feelings, but that's one reason why I never go to stores like these again.

I rather take my car and drive some miles further away to this very kind dealer (the same one indeed, who so generously renders me the keys of his shop for shooting whatever old and new stuff there is).
Here I purchased the larger part of my collection over the past 15 years, with excellent service and friendliness. Coffee and a fine chat are for free...

Frits


Hi Frits
your point is well made, you go the extra because you find the service good and coffee etc Its not hard stuff to smile, be polite and make people feel welcome and a few bags of coffee over the year can be written off to advertising, and in my down times I read catalogues, this site anything that builds my background knowledge they have just said here the Christmas trading was up and the Boxing day sales NZ nation wide was 12 % up and thanks to a very astute Prime minster who knows how to handle money under very difficult conditions to the point they are saying NZ will grow 3.5% this year ahead of US britain and Australia because we are a can do nation and we produce the best value Dairy products in the world i.e the smallest labour cost to product and export dollar approx 25%
regards bryan
were we pickit, packit and postit
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User is suspended until 23/03/4752 12:54:35(UTC) Mulldog Lemon  
#164 Posted : 30 December 2013 02:40:56(UTC)
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And... Any more news on the product line this topic really is about? Wink


No. But here's the press release at Simba-Dickie. Apologies if it's posted already, but I went cross-eyed trying to read and follow all this.
Press Release


I'm seeing this as the key statement:
Quote:
Sieber also sees children and teens returning as the focus for the future business strategy.


But there are also answers to some issues raised at the start of this discussion.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#165 Posted : 30 December 2013 05:52:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mulldog Lemon Go to Quoted Post
Apologies if it's posted already.......


It was posted in another thread some time ago - the date on that Press Release is March 2013, so is somewhat 'old news'.
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