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Bigdaddynz		#51 Posted : 20 October 2013 12:10:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Tom. There's a reason why I asked for that locomotive - I've managed to score myself one! Should be here in about 10 to 12 days! Your photo also fulfills another request I had in mind - a picture of some container trains! I've got the VT08 railcar, but not one with the typo (but it is of the same model number), so someone else will have to give us a picture.
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H0		#52 Posted : 20 October 2013 13:06:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		The typo on the VT 08.5 is famous, the typo on the Hertha loco is less famous. Other candidates are one coach from 42811, the RAG loco 37656, 3422 (BR 194), 3680 (BR 323)
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pa-pauls		#53 Posted : 20 October 2013 15:01:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz .....I've got the VT08 railcar, but not one with the typo..... I do 39081 but no photo at the moment, sorry
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Bigdaddynz		#54 Posted : 21 October 2013 12:21:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		It's more than 24 hours since Tom posted (well maybe 1/2 an hour short, but I'm not going to wait up until the 24 hrs is up), so I'm posting a picture of my 39081 VT08 which doesn't have the 'typo' error. I'd like to see picture(s) of member's first Marklin items they ever had, along with a brief description of what it means to them. Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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DumbGuy		#55 Posted : 21 October 2013 17:06:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Tennessee, USA		Here’s a CM-800 (AKA 3000) BR 89-005 from the 1950’s. Bought new in Munich by my Grandfather for my Father then handed down to me. Two front headlight bulbs, plastic body, and analog SFCM motor. Still in perfect running condition! It was the first “hook” that started me in this obsessive hobby. It will pass down to my son. FWIW I've edited my original post to add a display photo of the loco with rolling stock of similar vintage. They were all part of the "hook". This was a very fine request, Bigdaddy. Thanks I give my turn for a request to the next poster. Regards -- Richard DumbGuy attached the following image(s):
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jvuye		#56 Posted : 21 October 2013 17:46:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,881 Location: South Western France		Ok, I'll jump in then... Here's my first loco, an RSM 800, anno 1950. Must have run literally hundreds of km... A witness to the quality of Märklin production of the era. Perfect durability even though this was at the time the entry level offering. Now if you ask why the "vandal" part in my signature... here's why: this engine has suffered an incredible amount of abuse! First it was tested to see at what speed it would jump off the tracks. Witness is a little gash in the roofline as it flew off teh table and landed on the flor one day. Then it was "endurance tested" running days on end, without interruption. The trafo died (280A model) but the loco did not! Then it was basically the test piece for all my unfortunate attempts to understand "how does it work? " and "how do I fix it?" It received a thorough refit in the 1980's when I finally had acquired **some** skills on how to do it the right way. Still runs impeccably. Yes Mehmet, it is still analog! To me , an irreplaceable and priceless piece of my life... Oh yes...almost forgot: I'd like to see a picture of an SNCB streamlined Type 12 steam engine Edited by user 21 October 2013 23:00:21(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified jvuye attached the following image(s):
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DV		#57 Posted : 21 October 2013 23:48:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 956 Location: Mount Barker, South Australia		Sorry for intruding without a picture, BUT, what Dave requested (your first loco) could be the start of a very interesting topic on its' own - unless off course it all ready has been started previously (and I was too lazy to check ) Anyone want's to start?
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Bigdaddynz		#58 Posted : 22 October 2013 02:50:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		I can start one when I get home tonight.
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Bigdaddynz		#59 Posted : 22 October 2013 03:35:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Couldn't resist, thread now opened. https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=28577
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Token		#60 Posted : 22 October 2013 07:06:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		In response to Jacques request, can I refer to the attached link? http://www.qrz.com/db/OT12BR My request - the prototype of Maerklin set 43229 '50 year anniversary of Federal Parliamentary Council' Regards, Token.
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Yumgui		#61 Posted : 23 October 2013 21:47:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: Token My request - the prototype of Maerklin set 43229 '50 year anniversary of Federal Parliamentary Council' This is it, I think : http://www.trains-specia...exte/voitures-salons.htm ... Adenauer salon car ? Hard to find any pix of the full train ... I'd like to see a TGV, model or prototype ... Y
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Token		#62 Posted : 24 October 2013 08:09:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Thank you Yumgui - it was the result of one of my few forays into eBay that added this set to my collection. The set goes to the heart of my fascination with the Federal Republic of Germany in Era 3 and the 'Wirtschaftwunder'. I appreciate any information on this model that is out there. Regards, Token. P.S. If you are interested in the TGV... http://www.4rail.net/visions_france_tgvstory1.php
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cookee_nz		#63 Posted : 24 October 2013 08:12:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,979 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: Token Thank you Yumgui - it was the result of one of my few forays into eBay that added this set to my collection. The set goes to the heart of my fascination with the Federal Republic of Germany in Era 3 and the 'Wirtschaftwunder'. I appreciate any information on this model that is out there. Regards, Token. P.S. If you are interested in the TGV... http://www.4rail.net/visions_france_tgvstory1.php Sheesh, he stopped just in time, another 100cm and he'd be off the track !!! (Slippery rails?)
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Token		#64 Posted : 24 October 2013 09:30:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Following my earlier response, can anyone find a picture of a prototype BR 42.90 (DB)? I gather there were only two and not as successful as the DB BR50.40. Regards, Token.
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Yumgui		#65 Posted : 24 October 2013 22:09:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: Token Following my earlier response, can anyone find a picture of a prototype BR 42.90 (DB)? I gather there were only two and not as successful as the DB BR50.40. Token, Thanks for that TGV proto, never saw it before ^^ ! Now, see here a very interesting article on the Franco-Crosti boiler system (BR 42.90 DB) : http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pi...ocrosti/francocrosti.htm Made for Belgium, Italy, Ireland, Britain and Germany ... Are these the two locos you're looking for ... ? : ... or ; Märklin model of 42.90 series ... ref number 39160, Digital, Insidermodell 2002 ; ... also, check out a concept version for Russia, WOW : http://www.aqpl43.dsl.pi...O/francocrosti/bfc8b.gif ... if so, I'd like to see prototype pix of models which Märklin never made, and really wish they did : Heisler, Shay (2 or 3 truck), Garrett, Cab Forward, Camelback ... Yum PS: Get with the program Märklin, please !
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TouchCab		#66 Posted : 24 October 2013 22:59:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 149 Location: Denmark		Yessir! Heisler. Shot in Elbe, Washington, on the Mount Rainier Scenic Railroad Shay. The 'Dixiana' - a class B shay at Roaring Camp in Felton, California. Cab forward. Southern Pacific 4294 at the Golden State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, Califonia And I would like to see model or prototype images of a red/creme E10/BR112 'Bügelfalt' with matching coaches. Edited by user 26 October 2013 01:54:18(UTC)  | Reason: Changed the wish condition from 'and' to 'or'
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Token		#67 Posted : 27 October 2013 09:56:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Hi = back again with the response; Link - http://die-buegelfalte-110.de/die-baureihe/ Could not find the matching coaches though. Anyone else? If not - I'll claim the time lapse and ask if anyone can find a colour photo, to prove the historical accuracy of the black paint scheme for the BR 05 001 as depicted in Maerklin model 37051? Regards, Token.
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Bigdaddynz		#68 Posted : 27 October 2013 11:34:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: TouchCab And I would like to see model or prototype images of a red/creme E10/BR112 'Bügelfalt' with matching coaches. This is the Tee Rheinpfeil set (or part of it) Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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Bigdaddynz		#69 Posted : 27 October 2013 11:53:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		On that note, I'm always happy to see pictures of my favourite electric loco, the TEE Br103.
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H0		#70 Posted : 27 October 2013 13:09:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		So what: are we looking for pictures of a black streamlined BR 05 or for pictures of a 103?
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Bigdaddynz		#71 Posted : 27 October 2013 21:17:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		The '103. Token did not completely provide the picture Jens was asking for, and the request for the BR 05 was only if the 24 hour time period expired.
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H0		#72 Posted : 27 October 2013 21:27:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		I have a picture of an E 03, former 103. Does that count? I want to see a picture of a real steamer that you took yourself. H0 attached the following image(s):
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Iamnotthecrazyone		#73 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:02:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,044		I was going to make a joke about steamer's photos but I'd better don't. Instead here you have one taken near Lithgow, ZigZaq railway around 1991. Sorry about the quality but I didn't have a digital file. Australia of course. I want to see a photo of the real train the 3070 is based on. Iamnotthecrazyone attached the following image(s):
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Yumgui		#74 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:26:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: Token Could not find the matching coaches though. Anyone else? If not - I'll claim the time lapse and ask if anyone can find a colour photo, to prove the historical accuracy of the black paint scheme for the BR 05 001 as depicted in Maerklin model 37051? Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz The '103. Token did not completely provide the picture Jens was asking for, and the request for the BR 05 was only if the 24 hour time period expired. Seems like Token was right on the 24Hr timing to ask for the Black BR 05 (don't be a hog now BD ^^ ;) ... so here are some pix on the fascinating BR 05 subject : 05 001 - Speed record over 200 km/hr, and later scrapped (boh!) ... in black and white livery (probably doesn't count) ;P 05 002 - Red and located in the DB Museum in Nuremberg I always thought that the BR 05 was built in two protos, the 001 and 002 ... but read on some forum recently that 3 were built ??? Anybody have authoritative info on that ? ... Now, for a steam loco I've seen recently, here is a 141-TC-701 SNCF at 1/5 scale being restored in the Pras model workshop in Paris ... Made by 14 to 18 year olds learning the craft in 1929, it is part of the permanent exhibit of the Museum in Epernay (check out the 1/5 scale tool kit they built !). While it was built as a steam loco, it is now converted to pneumatic drive for Museum purposes ... : As for the following request , and to try once again to get this show on a regular rhythm, I'll go with The NOT Crazy One ^^ ;) "I want to see a photo of the real train the 3070 is based on ..." Y PS: Per, as you know, the response is posted before all photos are uploaded .. and so it goes, patience is of the essence ^^ ;) Yumgui attached the following image(s):
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Purellum		#75 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:33:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,508 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Sorry to jump in; but I would like to see a picture of this: "Now, for a steam loco I've seen recently, here is a 141-TC-701 SNCF at 1/5 scale being restored in the Pras model workshop in Paris ... Made by 14 to 18 year olds learning the craft in 1929, it is part of the permanent exhibit of the Museum in Epernay. While it was built as a steam loco, it is now converted to pneumatic drive for Museum purposes ... :" Per. Edit: Thank you, I got it now
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Bigdaddynz		#76 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:37:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Yumgui Seems like Token was right on the 24Hr timing to ask for the Black BR 05 Actually there is 60 hours between the two posts, so we both got it wrong. Originally Posted by: Yumgui I always thought that the BR 05 was built in two protos, the 001 and 002 ... but read on some forum recently that 3 were built ??? My understanding was the there were 3 BR 05's and 2 BR 06's. Wikipedia lists 3 BR 05's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_05
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H0		#77 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:39:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Yumgui 05 001 - Speed record over 200 km/hr, and later scrapped (boh!) ... in black and white livery (probably doesn't count) ;P A black and white photo, most likely showing the loco in its early, red livery. There were three locos: 05 001 and 05 002 were very similar, only details were different. 05 003 was Germany's only cab-forward steamer. Märklin made models of all three.
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H0		#78 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:41:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		I guess the current request is this: "I want to see a photo of the real train the 3070 is based on."
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Bigdaddynz		#79 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:41:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: H0 I have a picture of an E 03, former 103. Does that count? It barely just qualifies, the prototypes were never called BR 103, afaik they remained E03's. I'll have to provide a photo myself! Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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Bigdaddynz		#80 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:44:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: H0 I guess the current request is this: "I want to see a photo of the real train the 3070 is based on." Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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Purellum		#81 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:50:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,508 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		I hope it is OK that I jump in again, with one more E03-picture: Per.
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Bigdaddynz		#82 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:50:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Tom's request for a picture of a steamer that you took yourself got me thinking. Since I didn't have my camera with me the day I got to climb over a NZR class Ka locomotive, I'd like someone to provide me with such a picture!
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H0		#83 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:56:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz It barely just qualifies, the prototypes were never called BR 103, afaik they remained E03's. No, they were E 03 in era III, 103 in era IV - and the one on my picture became E 03 again in era V when it was prepared as a museum loco. The Märklin set 37574 includes an era IV version of a prototype loco labelled as 103.
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Yumgui		#84 Posted : 27 October 2013 22:58:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: Purellum I hope it is OK that I jump in again, with one more E03-picture: Just great ^^ ! Y
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Token		#85 Posted : 28 October 2013 08:58:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Hi BDNZ, a photo as requested but in a fairly poor state of repair at Paekak; In happier days.... Regards, Token. Still looking for the evidence of BR05 in black colour scheme...
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Bigdaddynz		#86 Posted : 28 October 2013 09:35:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Token Still looking for the evidence of BR05 in black colour scheme... Not sure that it exists! Another piccie of Ka 945
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Token		#87 Posted : 28 October 2013 12:17:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Thanks BD, I think you are right. Could not find anything about it and as an aside, I would love it if someone could let me know on what basis Maerklin produced the black colour scheme as opposed to the red. Any ideas out there? On the subject of NZR, I quite enjoyed a ride on this one..... ...and how about the only one of these left in the world.... ...anyone (outside NZ hazard a guess what the second regulator is for (below)? Regards, Token.
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Iamnotthecrazyone		#88 Posted : 28 October 2013 12:29:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,044		Originally Posted by: Token Thanks BD, I think you are right. Could not find anything about it and as an aside, I would love it if someone could let me know on what basis Maerklin produced the black colour scheme as opposed to the red. Any ideas out there? Token. There was a thread sometime ago discussing the colour, nobody could come up with undisputable evidence because photos were black and white. It wouldn't be the first time Marklin issues a non existent colour. Isn't the latest black croc one of them?
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Tom Jessop		#89 Posted : 28 October 2013 20:21:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 800 Location: Newcastle NSW Australia		2 regulators, 1 for the pistons driving the wheels the other is for the cog drive. Tom in Oz
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Bigdaddynz		#90 Posted : 28 October 2013 20:32:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Token ...and how about the only one of these left in the world.... I visited the Fell Museum in Featherston in March this year and I posted some photos somewhere on the forum.
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Webmaster		#91 Posted : 28 October 2013 20:32:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		I suppose this is a black BR05 (de-streamlined)... Will it pass as a valid entry??? If it does, I'd like to see a prototype BR52 with the stiff frame tender (not the bathtub one...). The BR05 001 (streamlined) looks black in pics, but the wasteline is blacker than the rest of the body...
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Token		#92 Posted : 28 October 2013 20:45:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Brilliant - you got me there! Any requests for pictures? Regards, Token.
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Webmaster		#93 Posted : 28 October 2013 20:47:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		I'd like to see a prototype BR52 with the stiff frame tender (not the bathtub one...). This BR05 003 actually looks a bit black too...
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Webmaster		#94 Posted : 28 October 2013 21:08:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		Originally Posted by: Webmaster I'd like to see a prototype BR52 with the stiff frame tender (not the bathtub one...). Just to clarify, I'd like to see a prototype picture of a single one of them - not a yard full of them...
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RayF		#95 Posted : 28 October 2013 23:29:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,854 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Will this do, Juhan? I'd like to see a photo of a prototype of the Br89 (Like Marklin's 3000)
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RayF		#96 Posted : 28 October 2013 23:30:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,854 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Or maybe this one? edit: Maybe not. This might be a class 50
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H0		#97 Posted : 28 October 2013 23:55:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,344 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: RayF Maybe not. This might be a class 50 Locos labelled 052 or 053 are definitely class 50. By 1968 DB had gotten rid of all BR 52 locos and 050 through 053 were all class 50 locos. Only your first picture qualifies as Steifrahmentender (tender 4 T 30, stiff frame, no trucks).
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Bigdaddynz		#98 Posted : 29 October 2013 00:25:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: RayF I'd like to see a photo of a prototype of the Br89 (Like Marklin's 3000) How's this Ray! BTW, there were 10 prototypes built, and over 5 million Marklin models. Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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Bigdaddynz		#99 Posted : 29 October 2013 00:27:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,723 Location: New Zealand		I'd like to see a coloured picture of the streamlined BR 06 prototype.
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Token		#100 Posted : 29 October 2013 07:38:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW		Not colour, I know but I would love Maerklin to produce one of these! All I have to do is work out how to fit era II loco's into my era III layout. Oh well, I guess people might not notice.... Token.
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