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Coolness [:p] - was there also a prototype  (idiotic question of mine - guess yes ...) |
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Don't worry, John, I have the same idiotic question, you're just faster on the trigger than me.  Per. |
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Yep - Wikipedia entry here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoadrailerThey are very fragile in rail terms - always marshalled at the end of a train as they are not strong enough to take the weight of extra cars behind them. |
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WOW, John - most impressive layout and train ... [:p][:p][:p] !!! At first glance one might think Swiss Alps - that's the playground LGB is made for  Big congratulations  (another) John Thanks for the wiki link, Matt! Just read those roadrailers are with us since the 1950s. Never saw one on track in real life ... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tworail
<br />I am closet RhB-aholic. :) ... And more WOWs for you - most impressive collection of big scale stuff ... Nice carpet layout, and you even got a Seetal Croco and a live Steamer [:p] Is the little brown Electric geared for third rail (zahnrad-bahn) |
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Very nice, tworail. |
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THat snow running is definately Brass Monkey weather.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Is the little brown Electric geared for third rail (zahnrad-bahn) Nope, this is the 2045 RhB Ge 2/4. I've been trying to get my hands on a rack loco but they are hard to come by. I like the FO model at the top of this page.. but $$$$ as I'm sure you have found. Even crufty used models seem to fetch up to $400 on eBay.
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The Ge 2/4 is a wonderful little thing - I have the rebuilt "flatiron" version in orange which usually turns out with a couple of vintage coaches, although the prototype is used as a shunter now. I still want one of the original boxcab versions but prices have gone mad since LGB had their crisis.
There is also a company called KISS who make RhB stock - they have offered scale length centre-entrance coaches, four wheel vans and four wheel opens. I only have one item from them, a wooden-bodied four wheel open that was cheaper than the LGB variant due to being delivered with metal wheels rather than having to buy them. The detailing is generally finer too, but obviously it is a little more fragile than LGB. |
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I am probably way out of line here but has anybody tried 0 gauge and if so how does it compare to 1.
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I've built a few O wagons - mostly Parkside kits although I did finish a part-built Slaters one. They are a lot smaller than G1.
The Parkside kits are excellent - everything included apart from glue and paint, and superb mouldings. I'd suggest buying one and having a go if O appeals - you can always park it on the shelf if you don't get as far as a layout. |
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Thanks Matt. It would mean no Marklin but it is interesting to find out about other scales.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar
<br />I am probably way out of line here
but has anybody tried 0 gauge and if so
how does it compare to 1 Out of line not at all, my friend - excellent question Had 0 gauge LIONEL when I was little, here's a short overview for you: LGB: Track Gauge = 1 (45mm), Model Scale = 1:22,5
MARKLIN: Track Gauge = 1 (45mm), Model Scale = 1:32
LIONEL: Track Gauge = 0 (32mm), Model Scale = 1:48
MARKLIN: Track Gauge = H0 (16,5mm), Model Scale = 1:87More about at http://www.lionel.com/ |
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Thanks John. O gauge looks like a good size for laying track in the space i have but it would mean leaving Marklin and thats not really possible as I like the brand too much. Thanks for link as well John.
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David, Add another room to the Castle or throw the Clan out and use their room to build.
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You can talk... How about you assign some of the acres that you live on to a 1 gauge layout... You already have a massive engine shed and a source for a nice thermal spa based lake.... |
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I like the lokk of the Lionel stuff. Seems good prices.
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Right, David. An endless selection of locos & cars [:p] If I were out for a really big one - LIONEL 0 gauge were my go Since Jerry Calabrese knows what we want ... At their website you can view all their catalogs back to year 2000 !!! or just drop 'em a mail and they gladly send your their latest print edition same day [^] Also the controllers are top quality. Big plus - one gets steam sound, whistle & bell even in analog mode, already   |
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Lionel might have a bit of a problem in the UK - as far as I know they don't make 230v transformers, and using a step-down transformer won't work as our AC mains works at a different frequency which would apparently stop the horn/whistle/bell buttons working properly. You could do something involving a US market inverter (the sort designed to produce mains AC power from a 12v car battery), a couple of car batteries wired in parallel and a suitable charger unit but it would be a bit clumsy - sort of a DIY UPS. That said, if you really want to run Lionel then it's probably the best option. |
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You're right, Matt. In your country such could make MRR with LIONEL difficult if not impossible. At least just simple trying will ask for trouble ... [xx(] Big advantage for MARKLIN and LGB who take provisions for most voltages |
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I've always been a bit puzzled why Lionel don't try to crack the British/Euro market - certainly things like their new Hogwarts Express ought to go down well here. I get the impression that the loco and stock from that set would be very popular with the coarse scale O crowd to run with ACE Trains and Bassett Lowke (name now owned by Corgi, who are making models in the style of the originals). |
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Perhaps both manufacturers make enough money at their home markets ... [}:)] But (again) - M is more consumer-friendly when it comes to product versatility |
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It looks as though they've just dusted off the 2007 new items - not sure much new stuff made it out last year with the ongoing clearup after the financial disasters. The Bernina Express EW IV 1st coach is the main thing I'd want from there - have the matching 2nd already. |
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Of course, Steven - just look back at my post from 2008-02-12 ...  Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />Had a look at the new catalog ... [:0]
Just as with MARKLIN and TRIX all U.S. and also the Peanuts items are deleted [xx(][xx(][xx(]
Almost worse - there are NO STARTER SETS, anymore ... [xx(][xx(][xx(] |
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The Peanuts and Disney items are not hugely popular on other forums I've visited, in fact they're sometimes blamed for LGBs problems. I would tend to agree that some of the choices of vehicle were bad - people may be willing to spend smaller sums on a whimsical model but won't be so keen to spend big money on one.
Starter sets probably cost LGB a fortune. If you think about it they were selling a loco, two cars, a loop of track and a controller for the same price as the loco alone. I know that they had problems with track supplies in their financial difficulties as the outside contractor responsible for making track refused to supply more until previous accounts had been settled! |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by WelshMatt
<br />The Peanuts and Disney items are not hugely popular on other forums I've visited Of course. They are for our kids and grandkids, mainly. But then old me is loving that Snoopy Flyer ... |
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We are all kids at heart.
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I would have liked one of the Snoopy flyers too, the only offputting thing would have been dismantling it to add a decoder... |
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Having taken an interest in O gauge I see Lenz is giving us new locos along with track etc. Although not available yet it does look interesting. It would appear that there is much more avaible in 0 than there is in gauge 1.
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The Lenz O range looks very interesting indeed - have you seen Skytrex and Heljans' British O ranges? Not convinced by the Skytrex wagons as for the money I'd rather buy the Parkside Dundas kits, they're more detailed and a pleasure to build. |
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Hi Matt I am more interested in European stuff than Britsh outline. Can I presume that I would not need as much room for 0 as I would for gauge 1 or is there little difference.
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It's not quite that simple - O scale tends to have far tighter tolerances. LGB locos and stock are designed to handle 2ft radius curves (the bigger stuff looks daft and sounds terrible, but it will go) but O scale locos tend to be far less tolerant. Most 4-6-2 locos in O will apparently need a minimum radius of 6ft.
You can have minimum space O but it'll end up as an end to end layout, possibly industrial. A better bet would be to go for something like Fleischmann "Magic Train" which is O scale on HO gauge track. On30 is easier if US narrow gauge appeals - Bachmann make cheap and cheerful mass market stuff which is rather good, there are a million and one small manufacturers offering kits, parts, etc. Backwoods Miniatures are worth a look for their modifying kits for Bachmann RTR models. |
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Hi Matt. The space I have is 18 foot by 8 foot and I presume this would give a reasonable O layout and not just end to end.
Gauge 1 has the advantage of being Marklin and I can use my CS and the building kits from Vollmer and Pola look good.
Although this will be a year down the road it will be difficult to decide what to ge for but with the Lenz dealer (Mackays) only a few miles away that might be the best option.
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Great thoughts, David. We can see you're deeply involved with big gauge, now ... |
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Hi John. I dont really want to give up M but the HO stuff is just not as good as it was but then again who is to say the Gauge 1 will be any better...and look at the cost. With Lenz 0 gauge there is also a lot of British outline which I could also run and there appears to be plenty of wagon kits which reduces the cost.
I would need to dismantle the Marklin layout and sell the locos etc in order to change gauges but that is about a year ahead.
If I can stick with M gauge One then I will and as I said there are a lot of building kits which will be easier on the eyes to make.
Meanwhile will get as much info as I can and enjoy my HO layout.
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Looks good fun John. Bet the grand kids like this.
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I'd suggest buying an O scale kit and having a go - it'll look good on the shelf even if you don't go for the full layout, and the Parkside kits are really enjoyable to build. Modelfair.com stocks a lot of new kits and are very reliable in my experience - see here http://www.modelfair.com..._O_gauge_Wagon_Kits.htmlWagon kits in O for less than a Marklin HO coach! |
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Thanks for the link Matt
Well done in the rugby.
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Yep, a great result! Somewhat unexpected at the start of the championship too, then again so was our last Grand Slam...
The most I've ever paid for an O scale kit was £50 for a part built Slaters GWR six-wheel "Syphon" milk churn van. It became one of those models you take out, do a bit, then put away again but it's now pretty much finished. I need to sort one of the buffer springs out, add the remaining two lamp irons, make some brake hoses and find transfers/decals. The only annoying part about the Slaters kits is that they don't come with transfers so you have to source your own. |
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I have sent away for a Slaters catalogue and will do the same for Parkside Dundas.
This is probably not a great question but would Pola building kits (gaude 1) be any use with O gauge layout.
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I wasn't all that impressed with the Skytrex range at first, but I've just seen one of their modern EWS MTA mineral wagons. They seem to have improved a lot, although I still feel you're better off financially and in terms of detail buying the Parkside kits instead of the Skytrex steam era stuff.
Beware the old Lima O range - the coaches are too narrow due to having been tooled to European O scale rather than British. A pity, as I have been rather tempted by some of the Hurst Models conversion kits (which turn Lima coaches into various specialist types by means of etched brass overlays). Widening the coaches and making them look good is beyond my abilities I fear, certainly I don't feel confident shelling out £40 for the coach and kit only to then find I can't fix the width problem!
Gauge 1 is noticably larger than O, you might get away with using some buildings for "forced perspective" to make the trains look further away but that's not an exact science. |
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Thanks Matt you are a mine of information here.
I was thinking of getting the Lenz 0 gauge stuff including track but are you saying that being European I will not be able to mix British kits with this. Also if not buying gauge 1 building kits are there any European 0 gauge kits for stations etc.
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