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Offline john black  
#101 Posted : 16 February 2008 02:17:29(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by WelshMatt
<br />That little Furka Oberalp electric loco is fitted with a working rack drive system - add the rack to your line and it'll climb things that adhesion-only locos can't cope with. They will run quite happily on adhesion-worked lines too.

Right, Matt - had tried to get her. Alas, sold out since two years ... [:(]
On the other hand it won't hurt my wallet, anyway ... [:I]Smile

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Offline nevw  
#102 Posted : 16 February 2008 02:42:00(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Flash Dave get the post man hopping biggrin

biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

...

Mailed some instructions to him but guess the clan is deep asleep, already [:p]
BTW, Nev - somehow I get the feeling we are posting "unserious" stuff, again ... biggrin[}:)]



OK No more unserious stuff outside the Fun Pages.
Have to be serious at all times.

NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline john black  
#103 Posted : 16 February 2008 02:50:14(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />OK No more unserious stuff outside the Fun Pages.
Have to be serious at all times

Whatever you say ... but life will be boring, then [|)]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline john black  
#104 Posted : 16 February 2008 04:12:40(UTC)
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Don't worry, friends - Snoopy Smile will be back and kick the h**'s a** to the moon ... [:p]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline Purellum  
#105 Posted : 16 February 2008 04:45:29(UTC)
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Quote:
quote:OK No more unserious stuff outside the Fun Pages.
Have to be serious at all times.
[:0] Very serious posting:

The Cave of 1000 Bottles will soon be known as The Cave of 1000 Empty Bottles.

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[:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] Very sad. [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(]

Idea: Fit two pontoons and a battery to Snoopy's Fighter,
it'll beat the canoo to Australia any day. biggrin biggrin biggrin

This way you can send unserious stuff directly without even using this forum! [:0]

Back to the unserious postings. [:p] [:p] wink

How greenhouses are build of empty bottles in Scotland! biggrin biggrin biggrin

In Scotland, empty glass bottles are so big a problem, that concrete is made from them! [:0] [:0] [:0]

[size=2]Are Scots as cheap as told? Scottish house build of old car tyres and beer cans! [:0]biggrin wink

One unserious question remains: Where does all these empty bottles come from confused

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Offline john black  
#106 Posted : 16 February 2008 05:01:24(UTC)
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Guess you've been in the wrong cave, Per. Flash D('s) sic! is filled to the line biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
At least til Nev's contract comes in - when it's time for business the clan is fully awake [:p]
Flash D has the last word but what I can see is Nev asked for way too many bottles of malt ... [xx(]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline David Dewar  
#107 Posted : 16 February 2008 14:11:36(UTC)
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Ok guys. Now fully awake. What has been going on. Firstly you are having fun with model railways and of course this is not allowed. Others will ignore you as being silly. So now for the serious stuff.

Flash Dave & Co are happy that our OZ Director Nev has the maintainance contract for Snoopy and the bills for this will come from our head office which is close to the cave of the 500 bottles.

We now refer to the owner of the Purellum Trading Company and his remarks regarding Scottish Houses. This has been passed to our legal department (Nev please) and trust we can sue for every last uncoupler.
I am now leaving the cave of the 499 bottles for some of the less serious stuff.

John great pictures in this thread and with spring coming here soon I have even thought of a small garden railway. My problem would be building it up high enough (bad back) to operate and finding space which is not used by Sheila (The most enthusiatic gardener I have seen) Big scale is for me in the future but I expect indoors where I can play with it in the winter.
Having no experience with this I presume the Marklin big Scale and LGB run on different tracks etc. I do like the look of Marklin gauge 1 but the cost is high and if the quality and number of faults is similar to HO I would not be a happy person.
However this is in the future for me but I look forward to seeing the new Capt John railway progress.

Now serious stuff again. From my view in the cave of the 498 bottles I see a long stretch of track heading into the sunset toward Monument Valley where another cave is being built ...this time a really big one where all of the clan and their railway pals can live happily ever after.

David (always serious) and Flash who cant spell seerios and calls Nev .. Ron. (sorry Nev but fired off the email just before heading for bed)
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#108 Posted : 16 February 2008 14:21:28(UTC)
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Right, Per - this will be my summer garden pastime. When its warm & nice & friendly Smile

Moving to Barbados John? You will receive warm welcome!!biggrinCoolCool

Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline john black  
#109 Posted : 16 February 2008 16:00:46(UTC)
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Excellent, David - the gang is on the run against the h** ... biggrin

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Big gauge stuff. M and LGB got the same track diameter (45mm) but there are differences
in height. LGB's solid brass track is a tad higher and way more sturdy for outdoors ...

Now comes the iffy point. You get into big trouble with M locos on LGB turnouts.
On the other hand LGB locos don't run well on M track (profile too low for their bigger wheels).

But both makers' locos run troublefree on LGB track as long as there are no turnouts ... Smile
This was my personal solution because I have no turnouts indoors and wanna run both maker's locos in DC.
Still more - I have only one super-sturdy system of brass track for the mini-layout & the garden [^]



<u>Your case</u>. Since you oughta run them in the house you got both choices Smile
As far as I know M's big gauge stuff is simply excellent - but same goes for LGB !
You simply can't go wrong with any of the two but since you surely will have turnouts
you should never mix-up loco brands ... [xx(]

Have a look at both maker's track, locos & rolling stock and also what control system you want.
If you want pictures or links - I've got tons of them for you ... [:p][:p][:p]
Will mail some especially nice ones (of both makes) to you by next week ...

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Offline john black  
#110 Posted : 16 February 2008 16:12:32(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Jeremy Palmer
<br />Moving to Barbados John? You will receive warm welcome !! biggrinCoolCool

Very kind, Jeremy - thanks a lot !!! SmileSmileSmile
But our own place (southern Texas) is warm enough ... [:p]biggrin

Just hope this f***ing assignment here in the cold is finished some day [xx(]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline David Dewar  
#111 Posted : 16 February 2008 19:03:44(UTC)
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John. Many thanks for info. At present I an just finishing my HO layout and will probably run it for a couple of years so a move to bigger stuff would be around 2010 (if Im still here!) By then the eyesight will appreciate a move to larger parts etc.
Meantime though I will learn from your experiences. I do like the look of the M locos and hope by selling my HO stuff I could make a start. I expect my CS would do as a controller. With the cost of the larger gauge plastic kits being high a I scratchbuild a fair amount of buildings which would be interesting.
I have to say I like this type of thread something new and interesting and also fun.

David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Purellum  
#112 Posted : 16 February 2008 19:34:41(UTC)
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@David: You have several options.

1: Empty a bottle, then look trough the hole where the cork was before opening.

Due to the magnifying effect of the bottom of the bottle, H0 now looks like 1-gauge.

2: If you don't like looking at or in empty bottles, have a look at this link, it
shows the differences between LGB, Märklin and PECO, PECO making beautiful tracks
and turnouts, and gives life-long guarantee, even when used outdoors:

https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=4382

Note: The link above can be regarded serious, clicking it is solely your decision.

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Offline xxup  
#113 Posted : 16 February 2008 22:06:26(UTC)
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Hmmmmm... Looks like I need a few more days to become unserious....
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Offline john black  
#114 Posted : 17 February 2008 01:23:03(UTC)
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David. Hold it, please - never had the intent for such deep cut ... [:0]
As I said earlier to Nev, this whole big gauge thingy is great and also new stuff for me
- but being a HO man I'd NEVER give up my HO layout. Whatever gauge there might be ...


Well - it is small and nothing special, but it is mine and I have invested countless
hours plus lots of cash in it. And it still gives me the most of fun I could have [:p]
Also, if we would sell our HOs we'd get barely 50 cents for the dollar - no deal [xx(]

No - big gauge stuff is nice for getting another view at MRR but it can't replace HO.
That's why I build and buy only a tiny bit of that stuff. Just for fun ... biggrin

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline Purellum  
#115 Posted : 17 February 2008 06:07:53(UTC)
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No - H0 stuff is nice for getting another view at MRR but it can't replace big scale.
That's why I build and buy only a tiny bit of that tiny stuff. Just for fun ...
biggrin

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Offline john black  
#116 Posted : 17 February 2008 11:33:03(UTC)
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biggrinbiggrinbiggrin ... as always you see things in a somewhat brighter light than ordinary users like us
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline Purellum  
#117 Posted : 17 February 2008 11:54:30(UTC)
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If you can dream it, you can do it!

I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide.

In case this is not legally possible:
I grant anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.

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Offline Tony  
#118 Posted : 17 February 2008 11:58:46(UTC)
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Man, it must be something in the air or in the beer as this thread is gone all crazy - but good fun.....
It's time the large marklin stores in Germany had some good specials again on their one gaugue stuff - that is the only reason I got into it. These Kelts tin plate wagons were going new for less than 29 Euros at one time - so i bought heaps. Not many special these days though [:(]

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Now the question I have - Is it just the LGB locos that won't negotiated Marklin turnouts?? Will LGB wagons be ok on the marklin turnouts????

Why they coudn't just all make the same size and track profile so everything would work on all three types of track?? Typical..

Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 20:19:17(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Regards Tony
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Offline Purellum  
#119 Posted : 17 February 2008 12:48:36(UTC)
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@Tony; LGB can't run on Märklin track at all, without destroying the tracks.

The flanges of the wheels hits the plastic things holding the tracks on the sleepers.

Next time you notice an offer like the Kelts, could you please notify us?

I have restricted my buying from Ebay; but.............biggrin

Per.

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Offline john black  
#120 Posted : 17 February 2008 13:17:21(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum
<br />Next time you notice an offer like the Kelts, could you please notify us?

Goooooooooooooood Morning, Mullerup ... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Nice try. Did you really think a collector would give away his sources ... [xx(]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline john black  
#121 Posted : 17 February 2008 13:28:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum
<br />biggrinbiggrinbiggrin Always look on the bright side of life. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Always loved Monty Python ... biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline Tony  
#122 Posted : 17 February 2008 16:04:43(UTC)
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no worries guys

If I can share some info to help anyone I will.

I got those plus some other stuff from Modellzentrum Hildesheim - Michael Weiss? some time ago. He use to often put the ocassional 1 gauge item on his special list. But havent seen anything for a while. [:(][:(] I really like dealing withModellzentrum Hildesheim

Anyway my Marklin budget has been severely curtailed with adult children studying at University - [:(][:(] So no buying for me for a while...
Regards Tony
Offline Macfire  
#123 Posted : 17 February 2008 16:20:05(UTC)
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I wanna Snoopy car so I can go and battle with "That Little Furka" [}:)] [}:)]

Quote: However - Purellum became "The Most Unserious Member Of The Forum"

Membership Application Pack completed and in the mail. [:p] [:p]

BTW, Leah escaped the land of the empties, and whilst inbound spent a weekend fishing off Mayor Island with another 6 "mermaids".
We now have a share of 120 fish that were worthy keepers.....

Regards
Macca
Wannabe Unserious Member [8)]
Lord Macca
New Zealand branch of Clan Donald.
Offline john black  
#124 Posted : 17 February 2008 16:45:20(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire
<br />Macca
Wannabe Unserious Member [8)]

Great. Welcome to the bunch - Macca Coolbiggrin

BTW, I knew about some guys matching your leftover fish perfectly nice ...
Say in three weeks from now. Will send list [}:)][}:)][}:)]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline David Dewar  
#125 Posted : 17 February 2008 20:57:59(UTC)
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Hi guys woken up again.

John. If I was to change to big scale I would probably have to sell my HO to pay for it. Problem is I have about 20' x 10' available which would give me a reasonable space to run gauge 1 so the cost would be fairly high.
I agree we can not get back what we paid for our HO but there is a dealer in England who does give a fair price and I would keep a few of my top locos and the CS would run the new layout.
Over the next two years I dont need to buy that much new stuff (just maybe a loco if I know it is really good) so cash saved could be used later.
It is the size of a big steamer or diesel that I really like and the thought of something completely new ... anyway that is in the future.

Now for the serious stuff. :

Welcome Macca to the world of the confused it is great fun ... we do however take our model rail seriously from time to time and never ever have a laugh at anybody who has a problem.
Per : whats this about looking through empty bottles.. I will however have a look at your link (thanks for that)
By now I expect nobody from our serious members will be reading this but just in case has anybody ordered the new Insider 103 in big scale.. I think Ron would love this.
Back to the cave of the 397 bottles.

David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline john black  
#126 Posted : 18 February 2008 09:47:54(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar
<br />By then the eyesight will appreciate a move to larger parts etc.

Well, after a few weeks with that stuff I'm not sure if it really helps, here.
Of course, locos and cars and track are bigger so this helps for re-railing.
But when it comes to service or repair, there are still lots of small parts left ... [:I]
And then one really needs space. Not sure if 20' x 10' will satisfy you in the long run ... [xx(]

***

David. Looking at your specific situation, perhaps a deal with Sheila were the wisest move Smile
A nice modest garden layout with a Stainz Starter Set (lights, smoke and chuff-chuff sound) plus
extra track will total in not more than ~ € 400 and just honor her great effort in gardening [:p][:p][:p]

BTW, so did Ron & Cheryl, and so will Roro & I do. Perhaps I'll add one or two freight cars
for serving her tea & cookies when she's pruning the roses ... [:X]
Best of all, besides their low price tags LGB is totally resistant against all elements Smile


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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline nevw  
#127 Posted : 18 February 2008 11:58:57(UTC)
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John,

In case that you do not know there are no Elephants loose in Haggis Land. they Only appear after an extended stay in the cave of 300 Botles and the elephants are roomered to be Pink
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline john black  
#128 Posted : 18 February 2008 13:26:30(UTC)
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biggrin ... one can never know, Nev. Since you got camels ...
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline David Dewar  
#129 Posted : 18 February 2008 14:04:26(UTC)
David Dewar

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Hi John. Nice LGB pics. Problem here with a garden railway is the weather. I might get at best a couple of months each year in the summer and with this global warming thing it seems to rain all winter !!

Camels in OZ ?? I though they had these jumping up and down things with pouches and of course lots of sheep for export to NZ.

Lets give a big hello to Rita (Nevs FD) who is not feeling to well at present.
GET WELL SOON cos Nev is spending all your cash on new HAG coaches !!!!

David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline nevw  
#130 Posted : 18 February 2008 23:58:50(UTC)
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DAvid,
Nev is resting in the Recovery ward in hte local Hospital. the CC has been surgically removed from his hand so no new HAGS
Rita.
(Ps: he may be able to write sometime later in the year)
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline David Dewar  
#131 Posted : 19 February 2008 00:08:40(UTC)
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Nev. Never fear. application for new card is in the post.

Just had a look at the gauge 1 section of the M yearbook. There is not a great choice of locos and even less for coaches and wagons. Do you think they are reducing their stock of the big gauge.

David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline WelshMatt  
#132 Posted : 19 February 2008 00:29:44(UTC)
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Here's one of my IIm projects - a BerninaBahn coach. As well as the five-window version modelled by LGB they had ten six-window versions, all built by SIG:

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The model is scratchbuilt from balsa with some plastic and brass bits. Wheels and couplings are LGB. It's still not finished! Runs with the yellow Bernina/RhB railcar and "La Bucunada", all operated by Club 1889 in 1:1 scale.


Matt from Wales.

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Offline john black  
#133 Posted : 19 February 2008 01:09:19(UTC)
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You're an artist, Matt - very nice, congratulations Smile !!!
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Offline Tony  
#134 Posted : 19 February 2008 08:58:40(UTC)
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<br />Hi John. Nice LGB pics. Problem here with a garden railway is the weather. I might get at best a couple of months each year in the summer and with this global warming thing it seems to rain all winter !!

Camels in OZ ?? I though they had these jumping up and down things with pouches and of course lots of sheep for export to NZ.

Lets give a big hello to Rita (Nevs FD) who is not feeling to well at present.
GET WELL SOON cos Nev is spending all your cash on new HAG coaches !!!!

David
Regards Tony
Offline Tony  
#135 Posted : 19 February 2008 09:16:15(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar
<br />Nev. Never fear. application for new card is in the post.

Just had a look at the gauge 1 section of the M yearbook. There is not a great choice of locos and even less for coaches and wagons. Do you think they are reducing their stock of the big gauge.

David


Hey David of course Aus. has camels (Marsupial camels with pouches....biggrin,) in fact I think they have more camels than we have in our part of the world - all our camels are dropping dead from some alien disease ??

Looking at the 1 gauge stuff I thought that it was not too bad as they have added some new things ( like the Red Rail bus_55098, the Class 103 - big mother that it is..and also I liked the extra one gauge models. Also some nice passenger coach sets)Last year they brought out the Big Croc, although not a new model and the class 94 which they have again in a differnt version.

So let's hope they are not reducing their support for this size...
Regards Tony
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#136 Posted : 19 February 2008 11:59:48(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony
<br />So let's hope they are not reducing their support for this size ...

Tony. We can bet their new managers got no idea [xx(] what's a FULTON, JENNY or WASHINGTON.
That's why I got my box of spares for them ... Cool[^]
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Offline WelshMatt  
#137 Posted : 19 February 2008 12:43:38(UTC)
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Thanks John - here are a few other photos from my outdoor carpetbahn (the scenic bits of the garden are either too steep or too wet for layout building!)

These are all RTR LGB models. First off, the Alpine Classic Pullman Express. Should have two of the railcars but it still looks pretty good. These things will haul six coaches without even noticing:

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Now a couple of BerninaBahn coaches - on the left is the example now running on the BVZ as their "Steam Pub", on the right is the example restored to BerninaBahn livery and operated by Club 1889, usually with the two yellow railcars and the coach I showed earlier:

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Finally another couple of vintage Swiss coaches. On the right is the RhB C. 2012, Club 1889s first restoration project. On the left, a six wheeled baggage van from the Ballenberg steam railway. LGB offered a matching six wheel coach and an 0-6-0 rack equipped steamer to run with it, all three items were also offered in SBB Brunig line livery:

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All of these four wheelers would look particularly good with the little FO boxcab, the BVZ Steam Pub especially.
Matt from Wales.

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Offline Tony  
#138 Posted : 19 February 2008 13:14:12(UTC)
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Very nice collection Matt
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Offline David Dewar  
#139 Posted : 19 February 2008 17:16:43(UTC)
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Looks good Matt. Thanks.

David
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Offline john black  
#140 Posted : 19 February 2008 17:46:35(UTC)
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Very nice carpet layout, Matt - thanks for those great pictures [:p] !!!
May I ask - is this really outside in open air or in a greenhouse/wintergarden confused
Looks so dry ... However, you got plenty of space for big track Smile
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Offline WelshMatt  
#141 Posted : 19 February 2008 21:53:38(UTC)
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Yes, it's outside - photos taken the summer before last when it was warm, dry, and sunny. I think I need to take it all up and give the patio a good jetwashing this year, it's beginning to look a bit grubby as grime tends to collect around the sleepers and doesn't wash away. Leaves also tend to be a problem!

I have been sorely tempted by some Marklin stock, although I'd have to rewire for DCC. It occasionally pops up on ebay UK and is often pretty cheap, as German Gauge 1 seems to have limited appeal here.
Matt from Wales.

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Offline john black  
#142 Posted : 19 February 2008 22:30:35(UTC)
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M's PROFI models are the top but expensive (that's why I limit myself at MAXIs and LGBs).
However, please keep in mind M locos won't run safely on LGB turnouts, Matt ...


BTW - here's a big one on your lovely RhB Railcar Smile

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Offline john black  
#143 Posted : 20 February 2008 00:39:17(UTC)
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More Peanuts stuff ... [:p]

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Offline nevw  
#144 Posted : 20 February 2008 09:09:04(UTC)
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What fun Rail Cars. Snoopy and Peanuts at their best.
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline WelshMatt  
#145 Posted : 20 February 2008 11:49:06(UTC)
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Are you sure they won't run John? I know LGB won't cope with Marklin G1 track as the flanges are too deep, but I'm pretty certain my local G scale shop has run Marklin on LGB/Aristocraft track. I'm planning to keep an eye out for one of the Maxi 4-wheel coaches if I see a sensibly priced one, if it won't work on LGB then I'll just keep it as a shelf queen (like my impulse buy Aristocraft roadrailer that is a bit too long!)

Regarding the railcars, I went for the middle option - MTS decoder but no sound. With a bit of reprogramming the MTS decoders are DCC friendly and it runs very smoothly on a Lenz system.
Matt from Wales.

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Offline steventrain  
#146 Posted : 20 February 2008 19:08:09(UTC)
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Very nice picture, Matt.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline WelshMatt  
#147 Posted : 20 February 2008 23:19:16(UTC)
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If the weather is decent tomorrow I might try to take a few more photos - the Aristocraft roadrailer will probably be popular, it's a superb model and I am sorely tempted to buy another even though they won't fit around the curves I use.

If American narrow gauge is your thing, Bachmanns' new Spectrum 1:20.3 range is amazing. Freight cars have working knuckle couplers (with functional cut bars to uncouple), sprung trucks and even hinged covers over the axle bearings. Accucraft have similar standards but their prices are a fair bit higher.
Matt from Wales.

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Offline john black  
#148 Posted : 21 February 2008 10:18:04(UTC)
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Matt, re track brands. This -&gt; was the advice Per (and also a few other gurus) gave to me
when I started with big scale two years back. Don't own any turnouts but guess the're right Smile

Just wanted to warn you BEFORE [:I] you buy M locos that won't run nicely on your LGB turnouts.
If possible better test such combo at dealership ...


Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum
<br />Another thing not mentioned here, is the difference in the size of the flanges on the wheels.
LGB have larger flanges than M, so LGB don't run on M track and M trains don't run well on LGB <u>turnouts</u>

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline john black  
#149 Posted : 21 February 2008 10:53:00(UTC)
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And here some remarks by 5HorizonsRR - another great big-scale guru Smile
By walking 5Horizons' and Purellum's line I never fell into trouble ... [^]

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by 5HorizonsRR
<br />Hi John, I have rather extensive experience with one gauge and here are some of my opinions:

1. LGB: (or at least their German made stuff) makes some of the highest quality trains on the market today is not the best (and yes guys I regret to admit I include Marklin when I say that)While costly it is worth every penny and their US distributer is fantastic as far as pricing, stocking items, and delivery. Their track is also my favorite.

2. USA-TRAINS: These are American prototypes and a major bargain. While not quite as sturdy as LGB (or European built) they are better detailed and are very durable. I know many people who use solely USA TRAINS equipment on LGB track for their layouts. I would avoid their track though as it is not the best system.

3. ARISTO-CRAFT: While their rolling stock might suit your personal taste better (I know you like the old timers) their quality is good but not at a LGB or USA trains level. Their track system is great, I would use it if LGB didn't cover my particular layout needs.

4. BACHMANN: This stuff is garbage, cannot hold up outdoors and is really just terrible, the epitome of Bachman's stereotype. I'd avoid it at any cost.

5. MARKLIN: biggrin Great Stuff, think their HO only Bigger. The only thing I would point out as a negative (and why I prefer LGB in this scale) is the high costs and that they design their trains for AC while everyone elses are DC. Yes the Marklin locos can run on DC but you can't really start with a Marklin setup. Track is also really expensive.

6. ACCU-CRAFT: They are another favorite of mine. They are brass (read: expensive) but they are dirt cheap compared to any other brass and are a really great company, both in product and service (local here in the bay area). Plus everything they do is usually available in live steam as well as electric !

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline WelshMatt  
#150 Posted : 21 February 2008 16:33:54(UTC)
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That may have been true of Bachmann ten years ago but I can't agree with it now. I wouldn't try to run Bachmann in a monsoon (I tend to bring everything in when it rains) but there's nothing wrong with their build quality now. The problem is, their early stuff was pretty dire and people won't even look at the much improved current range, let alone giving it a try (I saw this all the time in HO - shouts of "Botchmann" from people who hadn't even looked at the current products).

My local G scale shop has a little Bachmann 0-4-0 on their demonstration layout. It's been out in all weathers on an automated shuttle unit for some years, and apart from an annual service and regular track/wheel cleaning it has never missed a beat. Their freight cars are considerably cheaper than LGB and come with metal wheels.

The 1:20.3 freight cars really are in a different league to those old radio controlled "Big Haulers". Comparing the two is like comparing an old Skoda with a post-VW takeover example!

Matt from Wales.

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